Nicklas Bo Hunter Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 From the 2013 draft Bo horvat is top 3 in Goals per game only behind Mackinnon and Monahan. Not a huge deal atm but is interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 From the 2013 draft Bo horvat is top 3 in Goals per game only behind Mackinnon and Monahan. Not a huge deal atm but is interesting. This Bo kid might just urn out alright after all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gstank29 Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 This Bo kid might just urn out alright after all BUST he hasnt score 20 goals yet. WHATS WRONG WITH HIM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StraightFlush Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 (edited) Suckers. You don't build by drafting. You build on the Lego blocks you are given. Scorevat may be the best draft choice we have had. Not saying he is bure, but it seems that (edit) when you build the foundation, the top rung follows suit. Edited March 20, 2015 by StraightFlush Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StraightFlush Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 Now everyone just give a kiss and hugz to mister gulutzan. Or Santa Claus. I believe in both of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zfetch Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 I don't get why everyone is crying about the trade, we needed to lose a goalie. I bet as soon as he turns into a half decent player everyone will ride his d*ck This guy is from the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plum Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 Hansen makes Horvat look slow. I wonder if Hansen is the best linemate for Horvat, yeah they have been good but I think with guys like Kassian, Matthias and Richardson is where Horvat would look at his best because of the boardplay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dasein Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 Hansen makes Horvat look slow. I wonder if Hansen is the best linemate for Horvat, yeah they have been good but I think with guys like Kassian, Matthias and Richardson is where Horvat would look at his best because of the boardplay. So does Kenins, and they work great Horvat needs speedy wingers to retrieve pucks imo, and Hansen is pretty good along the boards (as is Kenins) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snizzle_ Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 I don't think anyone ever doubted Horvat was going to find his way, and become a good player for us. The problem I had, and many others, is that we only got 1 pick back for Schneider. It has nothing to do about the player but the fact that all Gillis could muster was one pick. In hindsight, if horvat becomes a bergeron or toews player everyone will love the trade, but in a pure asset management perspective.. we didn't maximize Schneider's value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stexx Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 I don't think anyone ever doubted Horvat was going to find his way, and become a good player for us. The problem I had, and many others, is that we only got 1 pick back for Schneider. It has nothing to do about the player but the fact that all Gillis could muster was one pick. In hindsight, if horvat becomes a bergeron or toews player everyone will love the trade, but in a pure asset management perspective.. we didn't maximize Schneider's value. ya id say that is a pretty fair assessment of the trade situation. In retrospect schneids probably shouldve been jettisoned at the 2011 deadline like hodgson in order to maximize his value. With that being said with the way this team drafted at that period of time im not sure an extra draft pick used on the likes of a honzik or mallet wouldve made an iota of difference to this organization going forward. At least we got the extra first in a very very deep draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueberries Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 (edited) Been waiting awhile to point out this stat : A close comparison to Bo's first season would be Seguin when he was a rookie. Seguin: 74GP,11G,11A, 22P with 12:13 of TOI(PP time,3 points on PP) Horvat: 57GP,13G,10A, 23P with 11:52 of TOI. Now im not saying Bo will have better than Seguin numbers for the rest his career(even though I would not doubt it), this was the closet comparison between two high draft pick rookies playing 4th line time and succeeding. Bo has just been a beast. Edited March 22, 2015 by Blueberries 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87Crosby Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 Been waiting awhile to point out this stat : A close comparison to Bo's first season would be Seguin when he was 19 and a rookie. Seguin: 74GP,11G,11A, 22P with 12:13 of TOI(PP time,3 points on PP) Horvat: 57GP,13G,10A, 23P with 11:52 of TOI. Now im not saying Bo will have better than Seguin numbers for the rest his career(even though I would not doubt it), this was the closet comparison between two high draft pick rookies playing 4th line time and succeeding. Bo has just been a beast. Horvat has less assists. That's means low hockey IQ. That's what Craig Button and his superior scouting would say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shiftynifty Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 Horvat has less assists. That's means low hockey IQ. That's what Craig Button and his superior scouting would say. Beat me to it haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uselessstats Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 (edited) I don't think anyone ever doubted Horvat was going to find his way, and become a good player for us. The problem I had, and many others, is that we only got 1 pick back for Schneider. It has nothing to do about the player but the fact that all Gillis could muster was one pick. In hindsight, if horvat becomes a bergeron or toews player everyone will love the trade, but in a pure asset management perspective.. we didn't maximize Schneider's value."One" pick that just happened to be 9th overall in a very strong draft. You can't just count the number of pieces they got back without factoring the value of the piece. How often do top 10 picks get traded, let alone for goalies? Last one I can think of was in 2011 when Jeff Carter returned the 8th pick + Jake Voracek. Considering the 9th pick in 2013 would have been quite a bit more valuable than 8th in 2011, the difference in value returned for a 30-40 goal scoring forward (a much more valuable commodity) vs a potential-loaded-but-unproven-as-a-#1-goalie is slightly less than a pre-breakout Voracek. That seems about right to me tbh. Edited March 22, 2015 by uselessstats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicklas Bo Hunter Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 This kid has been amazing this year. The seguin comparison is interesting.. feel Horvat will be much more of a game changer in our playoff run than seguin was for Boston at 19. So glad we got Horvat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dasein Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 (edited) Been waiting awhile to point out this stat : A close comparison to Bo's first season would be Seguin when he was 19 and a rookie. Seguin: 74GP,11G,11A, 22P with 12:13 of TOI(PP time,3 points on PP) Horvat: 57GP,13G,10A, 23P with 11:52 of TOI. Now im not saying Bo will have better than Seguin numbers for the rest his career(even though I would not doubt it), this was the closet comparison between two high draft pick rookies playing 4th line time and succeeding. Bo has just been a beast. Numbers wise strictly, I would doubt it. There's no way... Career wise? Who knows - Bo could go on to have a better career, as numbers alone don't make a career And those numbers you posted are actually from when Seguin was 18 and a rookie (made it straight out of the draft) Seguin's 19-yr-old campaign - 81GP 29G 38A 67P with 16:56 TOI Edited March 22, 2015 by Dasein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dasein Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 Not to mention, these two are nothing alike in terms of playing style Seguin has elite vision and shot as well as game-breaking speed and acceleration Horvat is strong on faceoffs, strong along the boards (hell he's strong everywhere) and plays a solid two-way game The only way Horvat has better career numbers than Seguin when all is said and done is if Seguin has a career-ending injury/event that cuts his NHL career short and/or Horvat centers to a very elite offensive winger for the rest of his career Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Killer Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 I feel like we'll see another side of Bo in the playoffs, and he'll move up in the lineup. He's a playoff performer. Trust me. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucks Curse Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 I feel like we'll see another side of Bo in the playoffs, and he'll move up in the lineup. He's a playoff performer. Trust me. He really needs to be 2C, Bonino has been putrid lately, the goal today aside he was awful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dasein Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 He really needs to be 2C, Bonino has been putrid lately, the goal today aside he was awful Bones played the most minutes (19+), with Henrik being next up (18+) then Bo (15+) So Bo's really playing what most 2Cs in this league would be playing with the way WD rolls his lines Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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