aGENT Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 26 minutes ago, messier's_elbow said: If Vilardi is gone I really want Heiskanen. He seems like a can't miss D prospect. If both of them are gone, I guess I'd take a chance on Mittelstadt or Glass. Mittelstadt and Glass seem like they are 2-3 years away though. Why is that a problem? P.S. most of the guys not named Patrick/Hischier will likely be 2+ years away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messier's_elbow Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 1 hour ago, J.R. said: Why is that a problem? P.S. most of the guys not named Patrick/Hischier will likely be 2+ years away. Well Mittelstadt could take 3 more years before he's ready. What's to stop him from doing his last year of college and then becoming a free agent? Could just be paranoia after the Tryamkin fiasco but I think it has some merit. Glass seems like the safe choice to me if Heiskanen and Vilardi are indeed gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 3 minutes ago, messier's_elbow said: Well Mittelstadt could take 3 more years before he's ready. What's to stop him from doing his last year of college and then becoming a free agent? Could just be paranoia after the Tryamkin fiasco but I think it has some merit. Glass seems like the safe choice to me if Heiskanen and Vilardi are indeed gone. I doubt Mittel does more than 2 years of school. It would be a very poor fiscal choice and career choice. The chances of him doing a full 4 years of school are almost zero IMO. You're being paranoid My mock is: NJD/PHI - Patrick/Hischier DAL - Mittelstadt COL - Heiskanen (maybe Vilardi) VAN - Glass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messier's_elbow Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 1 minute ago, J.R. said: I doubt Mittel does more than 2 years of school. It would be a very poor fiscal choice and career choice. The chances of him doing a full 4 years of school are almost zero IMO. You're being paranoid My mock is: NJD/PHI - Patrick/Hischier DAL - Mittelstadt COL - Heiskanen (maybe Vilardi) VAN - Glass If either Heiskanen or Vilardi fall to 5 would you still rather have Glass? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 9 minutes ago, messier's_elbow said: If either Heiskanen or Vilardi fall to 5 would you still rather have Glass? I'd rather have Glass then Liljegrin/Necas/Vilardi/Heiskanen are all basically a draw IMO. Though that's probably the order I'd take them given I rate them all basically equal but I like the skill sets of the other guys first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ichiban604 Posted May 9, 2017 Author Share Posted May 9, 2017 19 minutes ago, messier's_elbow said: If either Heiskanen or Vilardi fall to 5 would you still rather have Glass? i rather have Heiskanen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messier's_elbow Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 53 minutes ago, Ichiban604 said: i rather have Heiskanen Yeah after the top 2, I like Vilardi, Heiskanen, Glass then Mittelstadt. Mittelstadt has lots of speed and skill but shys away from contact from what I've seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForsbergTheGreat Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 17 minutes ago, messier's_elbow said: Yeah after the top 2, I like Vilardi, Heiskanen, Glass then Mittelstadt. Mittelstadt has lots of speed and skill but shys away from contact from what I've seen. I like Vilardi, Glass than Mittelstadt/Liljegren, and I think i'm starting to lean more towards Liljegren over casey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messier's_elbow Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 24 minutes ago, ForsbergTheGreat said: I like Vilardi, Glass than Mittelstadt/Liljegren, and I think i'm starting to lean more towards Liljegren over casey. Why is that? How is Liljegren when it comes to physical contact? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForsbergTheGreat Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 1 hour ago, messier's_elbow said: Why is that? How is Liljegren when it comes to physical contact? Probably the best out of the top 3 D (which isn't saying much though). Liljegren is the best skater of the bunch, he's extremely smooth very mobile, likes to walk the D line and he wants the puck on his stick, he's always trying to create offensive chances (which sometimes gives him tunnel vision). And out of the 3 he's the type of D that our D doesn't already have. A right handed, offensive focussed D. Not many D can rush the puck like he does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messier's_elbow Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 4 minutes ago, ForsbergTheGreat said: Probably the best out of the top 3 D (which isn't saying much though). Liljegren is the best skater of the bunch, he's extremely smooth very mobile, likes to walk the D line and he wants the puck on his stick, he's always trying to create offensive chances (which sometimes gives him tunnel vision). And out of the 3 he's the type of D that our D doesn't already have. A right handed, offensive focussed D. Not many D can rush the puck like he does. He looks alright but I think we need a big centre worse then another right D. Vilardi or Glass when they are fully grown would complement our smaller wingers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 6 minutes ago, ForsbergTheGreat said: Liljegren is the best skater of the bunch, he's extremely smooth very mobile He really is a joy to watch skate. Makes it look effortless. I know lots of people are against moving Tanev but if doing so meant we could come out of this draft with one of Mittel/Glass/Necas/Vilardi and Liljegrin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForsbergTheGreat Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 1 minute ago, messier's_elbow said: He looks alright but I think we need a big centre worse then another right D. Vilardi or Glass when they are fully grown would complement our smaller wingers. yeah, don't get me wrong, I don't want a D this year, we should be going 100% with a center this year and going D next year (as next years draft is loaded with top end D talent) But if for some reason canucks decide to go the D route. Liljegren is the guy i would be least upset about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForsbergTheGreat Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 Just now, J.R. said: He really is a joy to watch skate. Makes it look effortless. I know lots of people are against moving Tanev but if doing so meant we could come out of this draft with one of Mittel/Glass/Necas/Vilardi and Liljegrin. Honestly Tanev is our top trading piece. next years draft is so much more enticing to me, so if were are going to move him, it should be a 2018 draft asset. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 5 minutes ago, ForsbergTheGreat said: Honestly Tanev is our top trading piece. next years draft is so much more enticing to me, so if were are going to move him, it should be a 2018 draft asset. There's nothing wrong with getting two excellent, high first prospects this draft. There's tons of quality players available that will arguably be cheaper to get. We'll likely be picking high again next year and still have a shot at VERY good players then too. Can you imagine a future top 4 of: Dahlin, Liljegrin Juolevi, Stecher Clean up on aisle 3! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atillaMYhun Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 Liljegrin's skating and passing look good but based only on those highlights he doesn't seem to have much of a shot, he looks like a slightly better version of Stetcher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook007 Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 41 minutes ago, ForsbergTheGreat said: Probably the best out of the top 3 D (which isn't saying much though). Liljegren is the best skater of the bunch, he's extremely smooth very mobile, likes to walk the D line and he wants the puck on his stick, he's always trying to create offensive chances (which sometimes gives him tunnel vision). And out of the 3 he's the type of D that our D doesn't already have. A right handed, offensive focussed D. Not many D can rush the puck like he does. The boy can skate alright.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honky Cat Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 2 minutes ago, spook007 said: The boy can skate alright.... There's a heck of a lot of room on the European ice...It would be interesting to see if he could translate that into the high pressure NA game,..playing on a smaller ice surface? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleShield Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 I'd trade down because I'd also be trading Tanev for Drouin. To Carolina: 5th, Subban To Vancouver: 13th, 44th, Fleury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaudette Celly Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 9 hours ago, ForsbergTheGreat said: yeah, don't get me wrong, I don't want a D this year, we should be going 100% with a center this year and going D next year (as next years draft is loaded with top end D talent) But if for some reason canucks decide to go the D route. Liljegren is the guy i would be least upset about. We definitely need a playmaker in the middle, but if JB wants to get the offense going this is what we ultimately need -- a Dman who knows how to rush the puck and make plays with it. In that, he looks similar to Subban except that he's much better at it and seems to know what he intends to do when he gets there, instead of just rushing and dangling the puck because he's able to skate it up the ice. Big question -- can this translate at the NHL level? An Edler/Tanev trade for a playmaking center would make taking him must more reasonable, and likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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