messier's_elbow Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 Just now, vinny_in_vancouver said: Oh boy. Here's hoping that Vilardi won't be available at number 5. Hey if he's already gone JB can do whatever his little heart desires. There is a chance Heiskanen and Mittelstadt are taken before..... JB better do the right thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RetroCanuck Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 17 minutes ago, messier's_elbow said: Hey if he's already gone JB can do whatever his little heart desires. There is a chance Heiskanen and Mittelstadt are taken before..... JB better do the right thing. Right thing in your eyes of course, right? I won't be shocked if we end up picking a D like Liljegrin. Benning doesn't necessarily go with popular opinion and sometimes he's right and other times wrong. Jake=wrong, Boeser=oh so right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messier's_elbow Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 8 minutes ago, RetroCanuck said: Right thing in your eyes of course, right? I won't be shocked if we end up picking a D like Liljegrin. Benning doesn't necessarily go with popular opinion and sometimes he's right and other times wrong. Jake=wrong, Boeser=oh so right Boeser was the best thing JB has done. I'm not that big on Liljegren, I have him around 10th. Good skater with skill but doesn't scream can't miss prospect to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RetroCanuck Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 Just now, messier's_elbow said: Boeser was the best thing JB has done. I'm not that big on Liljegren, I have him around 10th. Good skater with skill but doesn't scream can't miss prospect to me. I think he's going to be the steal of the draft if he falls that far. Guy was sick all year and over scouted. He's this year Chychrun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 2 hours ago, messier's_elbow said: If Canucks have a chance at Vilardi and we pass, I'm done with this management team. They might just have Glass and perhaps even Necas and Liljegrin ahead of him.... prepare yourself for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ichiban604 Posted May 9, 2017 Author Share Posted May 9, 2017 1 hour ago, RetroCanuck said: Right thing in your eyes of course, right? I won't be shocked if we end up picking a D like Liljegrin. Benning doesn't necessarily go with popular opinion and sometimes he's right and other times wrong. Jake=wrong, Boeser=oh so right Benning does like Liljegrin. Offensive Dman, looks great with Juolevi. But Benning also knows if he does pick a Dman, Vancity will burn him. So I think, he will try to pick up another 10 pick, to pick a Dman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 Just now, Ichiban604 said: Benning does like Liljegrin. Offensive Dman, looks great with Juolevi. But Benning also knows if he does pick a Dman, Vancity will burn him. So I think, he will try to pick up another 10 pick, to pick a Dman. How does JB get another top 10 pick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ichiban604 Posted May 9, 2017 Author Share Posted May 9, 2017 Just now, Alflives said: How does JB get another top 10 pick? Maybe Tanev? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 3 minutes ago, Ichiban604 said: Maybe Tanev? Ya, that would be great. Two top ten picks would sure be a decent reward for us suffering through such a crappy season, and then experiencing the bad luck at the lotto. We deserve to enjoy the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honky Cat Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 3 hours ago, messier's_elbow said: If Canucks have a chance at Vilardi and we pass, I'm done with this management team. Me thinks they may pass for Glass.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KKnight Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 I dont see how soooo many are hyped on Vilardi. Good forechecker, good passer, good hockey IQ. But, every time i saw him, he never drives the play. I saw Glass play a couple times and he has the extra gear. I would be taking him or Liljegren, unless Heiskanen was there then i would take him. The way i see it im content with whoever they take. Unless its Rasmussen or Tippet. Then and only then id be pissed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownUndaCanuck Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 Can't go wrong with Glass, Mittelstatd or Vilardi depending on who's available. As long as they don't go for the Heiskanen/Liljegren/Tippett bait. We've needed a top line center for a long time and while none of the 3 centers are elite, they have the potential to be one of the top guys of the draft if we develop them properly. It'll be up to scouts to tell us which one is the best and best fit for the Canucks. I've preached Vilardi's name for a long time, especially due to his age and reach, but he isn't as good a skater and JB is trying to build a fast team, especially after watching fast scorers succeed in the playoffs nowadays. Size isn't everything. That being said we've got some very small, skinny wingers in the ranks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRAZY_4_NAZZY Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 5 hours ago, vinny_in_vancouver said: Out of curiosity, what's the difference between playing at home and on the road? The only thing I can think of is the coach's substitution. My son played a high level of hockey, and I don't think there's a difference in his stats home or away. It's not like basketball where if you're on the road, people are doing crazy stuff when you're about to shoot free throws or you can hear the taunts when you screw up. I've asked my son multiple times whether he could hear through the helmet the crowd (especially the parents) shouting, and he said, "no." Good question, quite honestly I don't even know either. I think teams like knowing that you can not only perform under pressure at home, but when the favor is only for the home team, and you are the away team, it can be intimidating. Some players can block it out and others cannot. Is it overly important? To some degree, you do want a player that can be efficient at home and away, that they can produce on a nightly basis regardless of what building they play in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyoung Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 1 hour ago, KKnight said: I dont see how soooo many are hyped on Vilardi. Good forechecker, good passer, good hockey IQ. But, every time i saw him, he never drives the play. I saw Glass play a couple times and he has the extra gear. I would be taking him or Liljegren, unless Heiskanen was there then i would take him. The way i see it im content with whoever they take. Unless its Rasmussen or Tippet. Then and only then id be pissed. Vilardi is the definition of "driving the play". Dude literally holds the puck until he has a great play and then makes that play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook007 Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 4 hours ago, DownUndaCanuck said: Can't go wrong with Glass, Mittelstatd or Vilardi depending on who's available. As long as they don't go for the Heiskanen/Liljegren/Tippett bait. We've needed a top line center for a long time and while none of the 3 centers are elite, they have the potential to be one of the top guys of the draft if we develop them properly. It'll be up to scouts to tell us which one is the best and best fit for the Canucks. I've preached Vilardi's name for a long time, especially due to his age and reach, but he isn't as good a skater and JB is trying to build a fast team, especially after watching fast scorers succeed in the playoffs nowadays. Size isn't everything. That being said we've got some very small, skinny wingers in the ranks. It is, if you don't have any in you line up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownUndaCanuck Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 Vilardi - Getzlaf/Kopitar Glass - Ryan Johansen Mittelstatd - Sheifele Depends who or what we want and what our scouts tell us. I'd be happy with either of those 3. Lets just hope JB doesn't go off-board again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agoork Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 Glass, Mittelstadt, Vilardi, Heiskanen would all be great. Makar is interesting but taking him so high worries me. Same with Liljegren. If JB isn't thrilled with who is available at # 5, trade back - there are a lot of teams wanting D, so Arizona or Buffalo might want to move up to grab one of the top D, or maybe another team wants one of the top centers. Dropping 3-4 spots or even back into the 12-14 spot makes little difference this year - we'll still get a good center or Defenceman. If JB picks someone he likes at 5, super. But if not, drop back, gain assets, and pick a marginally different player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 2 hours ago, DownUndaCanuck said: Lets just hope JB doesn't go off-board again. Uggghhh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForsbergTheGreat Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 7 hours ago, DownUndaCanuck said: Can't go wrong with Glass, Mittelstatd or Vilardi depending on who's available. As long as they don't go for the Heiskanen/Liljegren/Tippett bait. We've needed a top line center for a long time and while none of the 3 centers are elite, they have the potential to be one of the top guys of the draft if we develop them properly. It'll be up to scouts to tell us which one is the best and best fit for the Canucks. I've preached Vilardi's name for a long time, especially due to his age and reach, but he isn't as good a skater and JB is trying to build a fast team, especially after watching fast scorers succeed in the playoffs nowadays. Size isn't everything. That being said we've got some very small, skinny wingers in the ranks. Like Draisiatl, Getzlaf, Kopitar, Pavelski, Backstrom, Malkin. Heck Bonino put up 18 points in 24 games last post season and he's brutal skater. Oilers have McDavid but outside of him they really aren't fast (lucic, Maroon, Leon) It's the combination of size, speed and skill that teams need. If JB really wants to speed up the pace of this team it's to get quick transitioning D that can move the puck up, like the ducks have on their roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messier's_elbow Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 If Vilardi is gone I really want Heiskanen. He seems like a can't miss D prospect. If both of them are gone, I guess I'd take a chance on Mittelstadt or Glass. Mittelstadt and Glass seem like they are 2-3 years away though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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