Benning Interview 1040..May 11,2017

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9 hours ago, TNucks1 said:

ill be happy with vilardi or glass Tbh.

 

9 hours ago, morrissex95 said:

Glass has been compared to Mark Scheifele. If we get a player anywhere close to being as good as Scheifele, we're set. 

 

Middelstadt, Glass, Liljegrin, Necas, Vilardi, Makar... all in our wheel house, all pretty much equal 'BPA' with assorted skill sets, risk etc.

 

I'll be fine with any of them.

[JM_]

Just now, J.R. said:

 

 

Middelstadt, Glass, Liljegrin, Necas, Vilardi, Makar... all in our wheel house, all pretty much equal 'BPA' with assorted skill sets, risk etc.

 

I'll be fine with any of them.

the only hard part is assessing if the "C" talent is better relatively than the "D" talent. We need both but as of now can only have one. Damn reality getting in the way again. 

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2 minutes ago, S'all Good Man said:

the only hard part is assessing if the "C" talent is better relatively than the "D" talent. We need both but as of now can only have one. Damn reality getting in the way again. 

Trade for another pick IMO.

 

[ForsbergTheGreat]

51 minutes ago, S'all Good Man said:

the only hard part is assessing if the "C" talent is better relatively than the "D" talent. We need both but as of now can only have one. Damn reality getting in the way again. 

Take Vilardi if he drops, if not, then there's a debate between, liljegren, Glass and Mittelstad.

 

LIkely go with the center and take the D next year.  I'd prefer

Dahlin over anyone (Heiskanen)

Merkely/Bouchard over Liljengen

Hughes/Boqvist over Makar

 

That's not to mention other top D like Alexeyev, Wilde and McIsaac 

 

 

[JM_]

3 minutes ago, ForsbergTheGreat said:

Take Vilardi if he drops, if not, then there's a debate between, liljegren, Glass and Mittelstad.

 

LIkely go with the center and take the D next year.  I'd prefer

Dahlin over anyone (Heiskanen)

Merkely/Bouchard over Liljengen

Hughes/Boqvist over Makar

 

That's not to mention other top D like Alexeyev, Wilde and McIsaac 

 

 

Interesting, I don't look that far ahead on prospect info so thats good to know that there's deep D coming next draft. 

 

[ForsbergTheGreat]

1 hour ago, S'all Good Man said:

Interesting, I don't look that far ahead on prospect info so thats good to know that there's deep D coming next draft. 

 

http://lastwordonhockeyprospects.com/2017/04/11/2018-nhl-draft-led-defensemen/

 

 

[PuckYa]

On 13/05/2017 at 11:34 AM, DADDYROCK said:

I 'm hoping we get the player we want instead of something like Columbus(last year) taking the guy we really wanted.

It seemed like a let down,especially after dropping from 3rd to 5th,we could use some (GOOD) luck for a change.

Seemed like a let down at the time but maybe a blessing in disguise in the future?

Way too early to know who's going to have the better NHL career when neither has even arrived.

[morrissex95]

2 hours ago, J.R. said:

Trade for another pick IMO.

 

Who wants to trade their pick? 

[Bruce Boudreau]

On 2017-5-11 at 3:34 PM, Freeridebc said:

Cliff ronning 2.0?

David Suzuki or Kailer Quasimoto

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6 minutes ago, morrissex95 said:

Who wants to trade their pick? 

Possibly DAL, ARZ (Maybe even PHI, though IMO, the cost isn't likely worth it).

[morrissex95]

12 minutes ago, J.R. said:

Possibly DAL, ARZ (Maybe even PHI, though IMO, the cost isn't likely worth it).

Would they be willing to completely trade out of the 1st round, though?  

[Bucketz87]

On 2017-5-11 at 2:20 PM, Warhippy said:

Watched Makar net 7 points in 5 games and be tournament MVP at the Western Canada Cup last week as the best player on the ice period, in every game he played.

 

Going to enjoy watching him do the same in the RBC cup a well.

 

Then going to sit back as he does 2-4 years of college  against basically grown men before joining the NHL and shutting up a lot of people.  That kind of skill he has translates anywhere

I agree with this a 100%. I think a few teams will be upset they passed on this kid.

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24 minutes ago, morrissex95 said:

Would they be willing to completely trade out of the 1st round, though?  

DAL especially, is in 'contend now' mode. They have a +/- 3-4 year window to contend before they them selves need to look at, at least retooling, around youth. A pick that's not likely to contribute for 2-3+ years does them little good right now.

 

PHI is somewhat in the same boat (but again, I don't like the probable cost of moving in to the top 2).

 

ARZ is a few years ahead of us in rebuilding/building prospects depth. OEL, arguably their best player is 26 this summer. They need to start making hay with all those nice prospects they have on ELC/bridge deals or they risk falling in to perpetual rebuild mode. From a business standpoint, they also need to start winning games and making the playoffs to get actual fans in the building and making money (or at least stop bleeding it so profusely). They have a bit longer of a window (probably 5-6 years) but tick, tock....

 

BUF is also approaching similar territory as ARZ. Though they aren't likely on as shaky ground financially, they need to start making progress with their actual NHL lineup and winning games with all the talent they've acquired in the last 5'ish years and that should/may include actual, current NHL players vs prospects who again, won't be ready for 2-3+ years.

[Bruce Boudreau]

11 minutes ago, J.R. said:

DAL especially, is in 'contend now' mode. They have a +/- 3-4 year window to contend before they them selves need to look at, at least retooling, around youth. A pick that's not likely to contribute for 2-3+ years does them little good right now.

 

PHI is somewhat in the same boat (but again, I don't like the probable cost of moving in to the top 2).

 

ARZ is a few years ahead of us in rebuilding/building prospects depth. OEL, arguably their best player is 26 this summer. They need to start making hay with all those nice prospects they have on ELC/bridge deals or they risk falling in to perpetual rebuild mode. From a business standpoint, they also need to start winning games and making the playoffs to get actual fans in the building and making money (or at least stop bleeding it so profusely). They have a bit longer of a window (probably 5-6 years) but tick, tock....

 

BUF is also approaching similar territory as ARZ. Though they aren't likely on as shaky ground financially, they need to start making progress with their actual NHL lineup and winning games with all the talent they've acquired in the last 5'ish years and that should/may include actual, current NHL players vs prospects who again, won't be ready for 2-3+ years.

If you knew anything about the Canucks ownership you would know that Galardi loves to stick it to the Acquilinis every chance he gets.

 

He would never authorize the Stars dealing with the Canucks unless his people told him they could bend them over and make Acquilini look like a clown.

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Just now, Chip Kelly said:

If you knew anything about the Canucks ownership you would know that Galardi loves to stick it to the Acquilinis every chance he gets.

 

He would never authorize the Stars dealing with the Canucks unless his people told him they could bend them over and make Acquilini look like a clown.

Well aware of their past issues Chip, thanks.

[Bruce Boudreau]

Just now, J.R. said:

Well aware of their past issues Chip, thanks.

Then why bring em up as a potential trade partner? They might trade their pick.. they might not.. but anybody dealing with the Canucks as that team is a long shot.

 

The Canucks don't have many attractive trade pieces to begin with that wouldn't cripple them to part with.

 

Outside of Tanev who is feasible trade bait when you consider contract situation age and team needs?

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Just now, Chip Kelly said:

Then why bring em up as a potential trade partner? They might trade their pick.. they might not.. but anybody dealing with the Canucks as that team is a long shot.

 

The Canucks don't have many attractive trade pieces to begin with that wouldn't cripple them to part with.

 

Outside of Tanev who is feasible trade bait when you consider contract situation age and team needs?

Tanev (who they could badly use) and we take back one of their unwanted, overpaid backups in a cap dump.

 

No matter how much two owners may or may not 'hate' each other, if both teams can get what they want/need, a deal can get done. The owners don't have to hang out and go golfing after the deal's done.

[cripplereh]

only thing I can say is if we tank for a couple more years at some point we will be trading more players like Sutter and so on, but we do need a few vets to get us where we need so when the twins are gone maybe Sutter and Bo lead the team

[ForsbergTheGreat]

55 minutes ago, J.R. said:

Tanev (who they could badly use) and we take back one of their unwanted, overpaid backups in a cap dump.

 

No matter how much two owners may or may not 'hate' each other, if both teams can get what they want/need, a deal can get done. The owners don't have to hang out and go golfing after the deal's done.

Stars are not trading away their 3rd overall pick, they may trade down but they aren't trading it away.

 

Elliot Friedman stated today that the stars have every indication of buying out Neimi, and they want to keep Lehtonen.  So really dumping Niemi is only buying them under 2 million in cap space.  Not a lot of value in that.

 

Also they aren't really in complete win now mode.  Out side of Spezza they main core is under 28.  They have another 5-7 years of cup window.  Seguin is only 25, benn is only 27.  The stars need more high end prospects, you get exactly that with a top pick.   

 

Yes tanev would help and yes freeing up some cap space would also help, but so would being patient and seeing what you have in your system.  Stars believe Lindell will become a top shutdown D, They have a top end PP QB in Klingberg, an upcoming D in Honka. And a few decent young players upfront, there's no rush. Let some of those young players develop another year and then see what you got, hopefully they've proven themselves, or at least up'd their trade value.

 

If the stars move a pick for help, it will likely their new ANA pick, but even that pick I see them having a hard time giving up. 

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4 minutes ago, ForsbergTheGreat said:

Stars are not trading away their 3rd overall pick, they may trade down but they aren't trading it away.

 

Elliot Friedman stated today that the stars have every indication of buying out Neimi, and they want to keep Lehtonen.  So really dumping Niemi is only buying them under 2 million in cap space.  Not a lot of value in that.

 

Also they aren't really in complete win now mode.  Out side of Spezza they main core is under 28.  They have another 5-7 years of cup window.  Seguin is only 25, benn is only 27.  The stars need more high end prospects, you get exactly that with a top pick.   

 

Yes tanev would help and yes freeing up some cap space would also help, but so would being patient and seeing what you have in your system.  Stars believe Lindell will become a top shutdown D, They have a top end PP QB in Klingberg, an upcoming D in Honka. And a few decent young players upfront, there's no rush. Let some of those young players develop another year and then see what you got, hopefully they've proven themselves, or at least up'd their trade value.

 

If the stars move a pick for help, it will likely their new ANA pick, but even that pick I see them having a hard time giving up. 

Elliott also said we needed Eberle to bolster or RW depth. 

 

DAL could obviously go either way but now/near future is pretty clear time to strike IMO. They have really good players in their prime and a bunch of ready/near ready kids on ELC's.

 

They likely won't have to tear it right down in 4'ish years but they'll have to start looking at retooling around that youth and selling off the likes of Benn.