coolboarder Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 Even if he comes back, the D might be too crowded and we could fetch a hefty return for him or other assets that is playing well but is expendable for some good returns as well. That's the advantage the Canucks have right now once time comes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGuardian_ Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 Just reading Shipachyov descriptions (you should read it) of his NHL experience and there are a lot of similar things to what Tryamkin had to say. He didn't understand why things were not like he was told they would be for one. After reading his comments I am starting to think that the Russian's still think of hockey as a game and not a business for one and that scoring is more important than playing defence. Both players appear to be very confused by their treatment as being different than what they were told and don't feel they were given a fair chance to play and/or the situation was not explained to them. A lack of communication. Those beliefs/training could be something the Canucks have to deal with in Goldoblin now, it appears that in Russian/European hockey and for the most part junior in NA, a defense first mentality isn't something they play very often, in their training/systems scoring more goals than the other team is the way to win and be successful. That could be why there are so many highly skilled scoring Russians and European's over all, it is the way they are taught, how to score goals. Over the decades many star Russian players have had difficulties with the defensive part of the game Bowman had Federov actually play defence for awhile one year. And many of the high scoring players don't have very good +/-'s numbers indicating that they are concentrating on scoring more than preventing. Even in junior hockey it isn't the shut down guy that gets draft in the first round very often and it is often said the players need to go to the minors to learn the 200 foot game, only the very exceptional talent seems to get pardoned for a lack of defensive play. Hopefully someone in management here takes more time to learn how to properly communicate with foreign players. That could be why Benning said he wanted/preferred European skill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Luongo Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 Definitely miss the fierce force that he is especially seeing the thing's he's great at are sorely missing. We could definitely use his massive hits and intimidating style and reach defensively and I would definitely try him out on the stale PP with that huge bomb that he has. That shot gets blocked it would hurt the potential blockers and actually has the velocity to beat the goalie even if the goalie has a clean look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthWestNuck Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 Just curious, but does anyone else think that the Olympics has anything to do with it and maybe by the summer we may be hearing a different tune from Tryamkin about possibly wanting to give the NHL another try? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erkayloomeh Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 Nikita. Trynapkins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfstonker Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 Man, this thread is pathetic. I think our grandchildren and their grandchildren will adding posts to this thread. Meanwhile Tryamkin will be seeing out his last days in a dacha at the edge of the Black Sea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alt kilgore Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 21 hours ago, NorthWestNuck said: Just curious, but does anyone else think that the Olympics has anything to do with it and maybe by the summer we may be hearing a different tune from Tryamkin about possibly wanting to give the NHL another try? Except he signed a 3 year contract. If that were the case he would have only signed a one year. Which I think he should have done anyways, regardless of the Olympics, if he was smart and wanted to keep the Canuck''s door open. That's what I don't get. Its looking more and more like he came over for other reasons. Maybe to up his negotiation position with the KHL. Maybe to increase his profile for that Olympic pick. Maybe just because other countrymen have done it and he just wanted to prove to himself that he could handle the NHL as well. I don't know. But it seems like he never intended to ever stay here. Mother Russia was too cozy for him. Hush now, baby, baby, don't you cry Mama's gonna make all of your nightmares come true Mama's gonna put all of her fears into you Mama's gonna keep you right here under her wing She won't let you fly but she might let you sing Mama's gonna keep baby cozy and warm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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