Toews Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 If this guy had any connections, he would probably not be running around with an imitation gun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 23 hours ago, Harvey Spector said: Not bad. However you forgot to mention their was a second shooter... I'm slipping in my old age, thanks ol chap I'll step my game up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 21 hours ago, Hypocritical Cranium said: Did you mean every one religious lunatic and thus every single religious lunatic? If so, I understand. However, not all Muslims are radical. The ones that are make the most noise, pain and suffering. It can never be stopped. The horse is out of the barn for the radicals now. The world will get crazier and crazier. Just be aware of things around you and hope you aren't in the wrong place at the wrong time. Well, when 20 years has been spent bombing their countries and relatives in to oblivion there's going to be some people with nothing to lose and a serious grudge against the American terrorists that dropped the bombs on their family while they were [insert rural middle eastern activity here] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 19 hours ago, clam linguine said: I remember the first time I came to Off Topic was to see what was up because people on the main board were implying you were exposing your true racist self by being bold enough to call a spade a spade on the Muslim issue.....and now here you are....converted to PC culture. It's about facts. Christians don't preach violence to promote Christianity. Certain Muslim fundamentalism encourages violence to promote Islam. A 2013 Pew Research Center poll asked Muslims around the world whether attacks on civilians were justified. Globally 72% of Muslims said violence against civilians is never justified, and in the US, 81% of Muslims opposed such violence. About 14% of Muslims in the nations surveyed (and 8% of Muslims in the US) said violence against civilians is "often" or "sometimes" justified. 19 hours ago, clam linguine said: Please provide a violent example of this. Just you know...pointing out facts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 19 hours ago, clam linguine said: Christians don't get suckered in by that anymore. Some Muslims still either get suckered in or are true to their religion (not sure which), that is the problem. Or, is this just an isolated case now and only SOME Christians fall for it? Please do let us know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 18 hours ago, Hypocritical Cranium said: Let's do a little twist on your thinking. Let's look at how people are accepted and able to live in countries where Christianity is the main religion vs Muslim. Ask yourself what your ability would be like to live in those countries in comparison. Your wife, daughter, mothers, sister, grandmother and aunts as well. Hint: it ends poorly for those countries where Muslim is the main religion and it isn't even close. Now, before you post a one phrase walk away. Give it a real hard long look. A Muslim can setup and live in a Christian country. Try to do the opposite. Welcome to Dubai Welcome to Jordan And numerous others that allow for Christians to come and set up shop. But ask that ALL LAWS be followed and respected or else. See tyhe fallacy here is that you're not allowed. But the truth is that you are allowed, it's just the laws are far more invasive and draconian than some would like so they perpetuate the myth of non allowance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clam linguine Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 8 hours ago, Alflives said: We kind of agree on this matter, I think. The killer (in this case) is clearly not winning some major prize for martyrdom, as promoted by those he follows. Non of these murders are winning some prize they are preached receiving for their murderous acts. They are "suckers", as Clam would say. My point is this "suckering" is not about religion; it's about the leaders gaining wealth and power. Those leaders are using (twisting) religion, because of its strong influence on people, to get people to do horrible things. Christians are equally controlled by their leaders. Are there not Christian extremists, who not only threaten but murder doctors who perform abortions, doing so in the name of their faith? In both circumstances the murderers are evil. Oh FreshlyhatchedfromapodAlf ....standing high on a hill... letting his progressive sugar pills flow forth. Remember..... A 2013 Pew Research Center poll asked Muslims around the world whether attacks on civilians were justified. Globally only 72% of Muslims said violence against civilians is never justified, and in the US, 81% of Muslims opposed such violence. About 14% of Muslims in the nations surveyed (and 8% of Muslims in the US) said violence against civilians is "often" or "sometimes" justified. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 1 minute ago, clam linguine said: Oh FreshlyhatchedfromapodAlf ....standing high on a hill... letting his progressive sugar pills flow forth. Remember..... A 2013 Pew Research Center poll asked Muslims around the world whether attacks on civilians were justified. Globally 72% of Muslims said violence against civilians is never justified, and in the US, 81% of Muslims opposed such violence. About 14% of Muslims in the nations surveyed (and 8% of Muslims in the US) said violence against civilians is "often" or "sometimes" justified. I accept your numbers, and say those Muslims who believe such are under the spell of their (philosophically perverted) leaders. Their leaders live wealthy lives, and control their followers with lies, deceit, and false promises in order to propagate their own wealth. There is a war, or should be a declared war, against those perverted leaders, who manipulate their followers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clam linguine Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 2 hours ago, Warhippy said: Just you know...pointing out facts Staying in the present, your African example is reasonable. I noticed their leader is compared to Koresh. You'll find that 0% of anyone worldwide would support this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 3 minutes ago, clam linguine said: Staying in the present, your African example is reasonable. I noticed their leader is compared to Koresh. You'll find that 0% of Christians support this. Clam, 0% of those Christians who are not controlled through lies, deceit, and propaganda by the very leaders who promote the hatred and violence. Those who follow the “false prophets” fully believe they are Christian, and doing God’s work. We need to accept we are at war agains many snakes, and we need to cut off their heads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harvey Spector Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 5 hours ago, Tortorella's Rant said: Drill to the teeth; potato peeler to the skin. He'll sing real quick and tell you all you need to know. Trump wants to send him to Guantanamo. Both of us can drive him to the airport... Hey John, we agree on something. See I’m not a bad guy after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 3 hours ago, inane said: Yeah! Torture always works and has no negative repercussions whatsoever! Considering these people aren't human I see no issue with what @Tortorella's Rant suggested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 20 minutes ago, Alflives said: I accept your numbers, and say those Muslims who believe such are under the spell of their (philosophically perverted) leaders. Their leaders live wealthy lives, and control their followers with lies, deceit, and false promises in order to propagate their own wealth. There is a war, or should be a declared war, against those perverted leaders, who manipulate their followers. these kinds of reports are misused all the time and also guys like Clam never give the full picture. Most people in the US also support drone strikes fully knowing that some innocent people will be killed (http://www.people-press.org/2015/05/28/public-continues-to-back-u-s-drone-attacks/). I wonder how that goes over in Muslim countries? You're correct Alf, it is the leadership all around on this that needs to be held accountable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 3 hours ago, Warhippy said: Well, when 20 years has been spent bombing their countries and relatives in to oblivion there's going to be some people with nothing to lose and a serious grudge against the American terrorists that dropped the bombs on their family while they were [insert rural middle eastern activity here] When did the Americans bomb his Country hippy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 3 hours ago, Warhippy said: Or, is this just an isolated case now and only SOME Christians fall for it? Please do let us know What I know is you have said nothing about what happened, in fact you're defending islamic extremists and just knocking Christians every chance you get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 10 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said: these kinds of reports are misused all the time and also guys like Clam never give the full picture. Most people in the US also support drone strikes fully knowing that some innocent people will be killed (http://www.people-press.org/2015/05/28/public-continues-to-back-u-s-drone-attacks/). I wonder how that goes over in Muslim countries? You're correct Alf, it is the leadership all around on this that needs to be held accountable. And people like you, hippy and inane support bringing in more radicalized muslims fully knowing that some innocent people will be killed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 2 minutes ago, Ryan Strome said: What I know is you have said nothing about what happened, in fact you're defending islamic extremists and just knocking Christians every chance you get. In my view it's not the Abrahamic religions which are the issue, but the leaders of those faiths, who promote hatred and violence that are the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harvey Spector Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 15 minutes ago, Ryan Strome said: When did the Americans bomb his Country hippy? I don’t recall the US ever bombing Uzbekistan. Perhaps Hippy can enlighten us on when this occurred. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 26 minutes ago, Harvey Spector said: I don’t recall the US ever bombing Uzbekistan. Perhaps Hippy can enlighten us on when this occurred. Uzbekistan use to be part of the Soviet Union so it's safe to say there wasn't any American involvement or influence there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harvey Spector Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 1 minute ago, Ryan Strome said: Uzbekistan use to be part of the Soviet Union so it's safe to say there wasn't any American involvement or influence there Yup. I’m sure if the US were bombing the old Soviet Union we would have heard about it by now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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