Art Vandelay Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, wallstreetamigo said: I would actually be interested to see if the real NHL has any limits on retention. I thought they had a max number of retentions a team can have on the books at any time but am not sure. 1 team can retain on 3 players max. Only 50% of the “current” cap hit can be retained by one team. If done enough times a $8M cap hit could become $250k. Would love this to be put into this league, but understand the hell that would put the commish team in for processing those trades. Edited July 9, 2018 by Art Vandelay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallstreetamigo Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 I thought the cumulative retention was a max of 50% of the full cap hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Vandelay Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 Just now, wallstreetamigo said: I thought the cumulative retention was a max of 50% of the full cap hit. In Puck yes. Not the nhl. Dubnyk was retained Atleast twice by 50% before he became a starter in Minnesota. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Sygvard Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, wallstreetamigo said: I thought the cumulative retention was a max of 50% of the full cap hit. Nope! IRL, no single team can retain more than 50% of the salary that they AQUIRED. If you keep trading you can go 8 to 4 to 2. Its silly and doesn't get done much because it is actual millions and not just numbers in a page. But technically legal. I definitely understand why it doesn't happen here though. One step of madness too far! Edit: In that CBA screenshot I think the important word is "50% of the REMAINING" Edited July 9, 2018 by Sygvard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejazz97 Posted July 9, 2018 Author Share Posted July 9, 2018 5 minutes ago, Sygvard said: Nope! IRL, no single team can retain more than 50% of the salary that they AQUIRED. If you keep trading you can go 8 to 4 to 2 to 1. Its silly and doesn't get done much because it is actual millions and not just numbers in a page. But technically legal. I definitely understand why it doesn't happen here though. One step of madness too far! There goes my chance at a 23-team trade where I end up with Connor McDavid at $1.49 salary. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Vandelay Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 Huh, so you can’t retain 50% more than twice. Seems odd, because I sware that happened to dubnyk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallstreetamigo Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Art Vandelay said: Huh, so you can’t retain 50% more than twice. Seems odd, because I sware that happened to dubnyk. Dubnyk had 50% retained by Edm and 25% by Nashville. Iirc Edited July 9, 2018 by wallstreetamigo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 29 minutes ago, wallstreetamigo said: Dubnyk had 50% retained by Edm and 25% by Nashville. Iirc 15 January 2014: DD traded from Edmonton to Nashville. Edmonton retained 50% - i.e. $1.75m of $3.5m 5 March 2014: DD traded from Nashville to Montreal. Nashville retained 25% of his salary (applied to the original total). Predators retained $0.875m. 5 March 2014: DD demoted to AHL; didn't count against Montreal's cap, but counted against Edmonton’s ($1.75m) and Nashville’s ($0.875m) I think his is the rarest retention story in the league thus far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sestito'sHandMadeVodka Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, wallstreetamigo said: I would actually be interested to see if the real NHL has any limits on retention. I thought they had a max number of retentions a team can have on the books at any time but am not sure. Yeah it's three. Personally. We have lots of retentions, but set them up to (almost) all run out after this year. On time for the rebuild. Some capped out teams are gonna have a fun time trying to keep wheeler, karlsson, etc. When their payday comes. When we did retain longer than two years (aka backes) we did it for a good return on an asset we really wanted to move. Good player, great producer but ruining the rebuild and long term would be an anchor. That's a nice trade for Johnny @thejazz97. St Louis is terrifying this year too. Sad you didn't take our deal, but that was a better one. Edited July 9, 2018 by Sestito'sHandMadeVodka 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejazz97 Posted July 9, 2018 Author Share Posted July 9, 2018 (edited) 31 minutes ago, Sestito'sHandMadeVodka said: Personally. We have lots of retentions, but set them up to (almost) all run out after this year. On time for the rebuild. Some capped out teams are gonna have a fun time trying to keep wheeler, karlsson, etc. When their payday comes. When we did retain longer than two years (aka backes) we did it for a good return on an asset we really wanted to move. Good player, great producer but ruining the rebuild and long term would be an anchor. That's a nice trade for Johnny @thejazz97. St Louis is terrifying this year too. Sad you didn't take our deal, but that was a better one. Thanks! I ended up doing the same retentions-wise, except for Dan Girardi and Marian Gaborik, which run out in 2020 and 2021, respectively. But we gain an extra $10m just by letting our retentions slide this year, which will mean we've got room to keep our young guns in McAvoy, Aho, Malgin, etc. Edited July 9, 2018 by thejazz97 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejazz97 Posted July 9, 2018 Author Share Posted July 9, 2018 On behalf of GM @maroe, the Calgary Flames are proud to announce the signing of: Hayden Verbeek - 3 years, $975k 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejazz97 Posted July 9, 2018 Author Share Posted July 9, 2018 On behalf of GM @canucklax, the Colorado Avalanche are proud to announce the following offers: Seth Griffith - 1 year, $850k Garrett Pilon - 3 years, $800k 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejazz97 Posted July 9, 2018 Author Share Posted July 9, 2018 On behalf of GM @Baer., the Minnesota Wild are proud to announce the following signings: Brandon Saigeon - 3 years, $925k David Hrenak - 3 years, $925k Josh Dickinson - 3 years, $925k 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejazz97 Posted July 9, 2018 Author Share Posted July 9, 2018 On behalf of GM @70seven, the New Jersey Devils are proud to announce the following contracts: Matt Cullen - 1 year, $2m Mark Letestu - 1 year, $2m 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejazz97 Posted July 9, 2018 Author Share Posted July 9, 2018 On behalf of GM @Phil The Thrill, the Philadelphia Flyers are proud to announce the following signing: Chad Johnson - 1 year, $1.75m 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejazz97 Posted July 9, 2018 Author Share Posted July 9, 2018 On behalf of GM @Tylez, the Vancouver Canucks are proud to announce the following signings: Patrik Rybar - 1 year, $900k Merrick Madsen - 1 year, $850k 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baer. Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 (edited) 37 minutes ago, thejazz97 said: On behalf of GM @Baer., the Minnesota Wild are proud to announce the following signings: Brandon Saigeon - 3 years, $925k David Hrenak - 3 years, $925k Josh Dickinson - 3 years, $925k Brandon Saigeon - Great in the face off circle, full 200ft player, strong on the PK, brilliant sniper especially from the top of the circle on the PP. Played with Hamilton in the memorial cup tournament. Hoping he can jump to AHL right away. Drafted by Colorado. David Hrenak - Recently completed his freshman season for the St.Cloud Huskies and was 14-7-2 with a 2.11 goals-against average and .919 save percentage. Hrenak was named to the NCHC All-Rookie Team and was an NCHC honorable mention pick as a freshman. Drafted by Los Angeles. Josh Dickinson - Leaving Clarkson University after his freshman year to sign with the Avalanche. Finished last season on an amateur tryout with the team’s AHL affiliate. Edited July 9, 2018 by Baer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 Current Roster and Top Prospects Silfverberg - Kopitar - Rust Fiala - Krejci - Smith Sheary - Henrique - Tanev Tatar - Bonino - Callahan Dumoulin - Myers Leddy - K. Miller Russell - Stralman Goalies: Fredrik Andersen Mikko Koskinen Reserves: De La Rose Hainsey Voynov Coburn Chychrun Top Prospects: Robert Thomas Gabe Vilardi Barrett Hayton Alexander Volkov Mathieu Joseph Zach Senyshen Evgeny Svechnikov Sean Day Dante Fabbro Sam Girard Libor Hajek Miro Heiskanen Pierre Olivier-Joseph Marcus Pettersson 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejazz97 Posted July 10, 2018 Author Share Posted July 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, Monty said: Current Roster and Top Prospects Silfverberg - Kopitar - Rust Fiala - Krejci - Smith Sheary - Henrique - Tanev Tatar - Bonino - Callahan Dumoulin - Myers Leddy - K. Miller Russell - Stralman Reserves: De La Rose Hainsey Voynov Coburn Chychrun Top Prospects: Robert Thomas Gabe Vilardi Barrett Hayton Alexander Volkov Mathieu Joseph Zach Senyshen Evgeny Svechnikov Sean Day Dante Fabbro Sam Girard Libor Hajek Miro Heiskanen Pierre Olivier-Joseph Marcus Pettersson Can't believe you decided to forgo having goalie this year 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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