Ryan Strome Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 Just now, kingofsurrey said: yah, because Most Albertans are climate change deniers and polluters...... whats your point again ? That we don't hurt you guys. Maybe you should ask your unions and governments in BC to stop investing in Alberta oil industry, makes you guys look hypocritical. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedestroyerofworlds Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 Man, the "they're out to screw Alberta" conspiracies are strong. Yet, Albertan MPs were front and center for close to a decade of majority Conservative governance. Were front and center for setting the rules for equalization the last time major changes were done. But Alberta's problems are because X Y and Z are out to get them and not at all due to incompetent Albertans in provincial and federal governments. Nope, it's all an AntiAlbertan conspiracy. Proof is two bills (debunked) and billions paid (see above) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowdyCanuck Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 Just now, kingofsurrey said: yah, because Most Albertans are climate change deniers and polluters...... whats your point again ? Climate change yes but no global warming ha also we are all polluters lol it's just we accept it ha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowdyCanuck Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 Just now, thedestroyerofworlds said: Man, the "they're out to screw Alberta" conspiracies are strong. Yet, Albertan MPs were front and center for close to a decade of majority Conservative governance. Were front and center for setting the rules for equalization the last time major changes were done. But Alberta's problems are because X Y and Z are out to get them and not at all due to incompetent Albertans in provincial and federal governments. Nope, it's all an AntiAlbertan conspiracy. Proof is two bills (debunked) and billions paid (see above) Well x y and z would all be solved with the pipeline..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedestroyerofworlds Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 Just now, RowdyCanuck said: Well x y and z would all be solved with the pipeline..... Who got that past all the hurdles so construction could start again? Was his first name Justin? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofsurrey Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 2 minutes ago, Ryan Strome said: That we don't hurt you guys. Maybe you should ask your unions and governments in BC to stop investing in Alberta oil industry, makes you guys look hypocritical. You don't think climate change is hurting the entire globe ? Of course i would love to see all governments and unions pull all investments out of Alberta dirty bitumen industry... I think that day is coming though... Hopefully soon. B.C.'s largest university is not going down the same road as the University of California and Concordia University when it comes to dumping shares in companies that are contributing to the warming of the planet. On Friday (November 22), the University of British Columbia board of governors endowment responsible investment policy committee opted to divest UBC's land revenue from fossil-fuel companies, according to the climate group UBCc350. But the policy committee did not vote for divestment from fossil fuels for UBC's entire investment portfolio. This came despite calls from the climate group UBCc350 and a letter signed by 1,600 UBC community members. Ivy League universities Harvard and Yale have also not pledged full divestment, which resulted in a protest at today's football game. Sports Illustrated ✔@SInow The Harvard-Yale football game is in a delay as students ran onto the field to protest climate change (via @ESPNCFB) 30.9K 12:30 PM - Nov 23, 2019 Twitter Ads info and privacy 6,522 people are talking about this Meanwhile, Cambridge, Oxford, and Stanford have divested from coal and tarsands projects. UBCc350's written presentation includes quotes from various sources pointing out how poorly fossil-fuel stocks have performed, including a 2018 study by Arjan Trinks, Bert Scholtens, Machiel Mulder, and Lammertjan Dam, published in Ecological Economics. "We compare financial performance of investment portfolios with and without fossil fuel company stocks over the period 1927–2016," they wrote in the abstract. "Contrary to theoretical expectations, we find that fossil fuel divestment does not seem to impair portfolio performance. These findings can be explained by the fact that, so far, fossil fuel company stocks do not outperform other stocks on a risk-adjusted basis and provide relatively limited diversification benefits." Another paper cited was written by Chelsie Hunt and Olaf Weber from the University of Waterloo. It pointed out that even in markets with a high fossil-fuel ratio of investment, such as Canada, "divestment can be conducted successfully." https://www.straight.com/news/1328841/ubc-board-governors-committee-opts-partial-and-not-full-divestment-fossil-fuel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowdyCanuck Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 5 minutes ago, thedestroyerofworlds said: Who got that past all the hurdles so construction could start again? Was his first name Justin? And why isn't the pipeline that's been approved done yet? JT bought the pipeline how long ago? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofsurrey Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 Just now, RowdyCanuck said: And why isn't the pipeline that's been approved done yet? JT bought the pipeline how long ago? I think the hundreds of people that will be chained up in front of the excavators that will be used in Burnaby.... may slow things down a bit.... The world is changing. Our climate has been negatively affected... The oil is industry is in its dying days.... Thankfully. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedestroyerofworlds Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 2 minutes ago, RowdyCanuck said: And why isn't the pipeline that's been approved done yet? JT bought the pipeline how long ago? The reviews and court challenges are what has held it up. Similar reasons why the pipelines failed to get done during Harper's reign. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 11 minutes ago, thedestroyerofworlds said: Man, the "they're out to screw Alberta" conspiracies are strong. Yet, Albertan MPs were front and center for close to a decade of majority Conservative governance. Were front and center for setting the rules for equalization the last time major changes were done. But Alberta's problems are because X Y and Z are out to get them and not at all due to incompetent Albertans in provincial and federal governments. Nope, it's all an AntiAlbertan conspiracy. Proof is two bills (debunked) and billions paid (see above) I asked for your proof they did nothing. Btw when I say Ottawa I'm blaming both parties. Man you will really reach to defend your idol. Now I'll ask again, how is anything Alberta's fault? You and your buddy hip say this so back it up for once. 8 minutes ago, thedestroyerofworlds said: Who got that past all the hurdles so construction could start again? Was his first name Justin? Ya he bought it because private investors walked away. Also it won't even be a million barrels a day. Energy East made the most sense and JT destroyed that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 3 minutes ago, thedestroyerofworlds said: The reviews and court challenges are what has held it up. Similar reasons why the pipelines failed to get done during Harper's reign. Which you never shut up about but yet you defend JTs failures. It's all political with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofsurrey Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 4 minutes ago, thedestroyerofworlds said: The reviews and court challenges are what has held it up. Similar reasons why the pipelines failed to get done during Harper's reign. People are waking up to the negatives of irresponsible resource developers.... https://vancouversun.com/news/local-news/teck-resources-says-its-baffled-by-fish-collapse-downstream-of-british-columbia-mines Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowdyCanuck Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 5 minutes ago, kingofsurrey said: I think the hundreds of people that will be chained up in front of the excavators that will be used in Burnaby.... may slow things down a bit.... The world is changing. Our climate has been negatively affected... The oil is industry is in its dying days.... Thankfully. I agree fossil fuel is getting aged out and that's why Canada should make as much as it can because we will age it out before we run out. Also those pipelines can ship other things not just oil .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowdyCanuck Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 7 minutes ago, thedestroyerofworlds said: The reviews and court challenges are what has held it up. Similar reasons why the pipelines failed to get done during Harper's reign. Yes but Harper still got a lot threw..... also this one is more important then all the others in my honest opinion and has had a bigger affect on everyone...... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 1 minute ago, RowdyCanuck said: Yes but Harper still got a lot threw..... also this one is more important then all the others in my honest opinion and has had a bigger affect on everyone...... This is why talking to people like destroyer is pointless. "Pipelines failed to get done." Just complete made up nonsense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 18 minutes ago, thedestroyerofworlds said: Man, the "they're out to screw Alberta" conspiracies are strong. Yet, Albertan MPs were front and center for close to a decade of majority Conservative governance. Were front and center for setting the rules for equalization the last time major changes were done. But Alberta's problems are because X Y and Z are out to get them and not at all due to incompetent Albertans in provincial and federal governments. Nope, it's all an AntiAlbertan conspiracy. Proof is two bills (debunked) and billions paid (see above) The proof will be whether Albertans support independence and by all indicators they will. Mass persecution complex or a mass realization that what is happening to them cannot continue? Are they being deceived? It will become incumbent by Wexit to clearly point out the economic cost of being part of Canada and a realistic assessment of how the new country can move forward. An open discussion which itemizes issues so they can be understood. For example how much does AB leave on the table by allowing the bulk of their dairy production to Quebec. Dairy is significant as it is a critical building block in agri business. One example. Do all of them. IMO there is also a cultural distinction that does not get discussed much. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofsurrey Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 6 minutes ago, Boudrias said: IMO there is also a cultural distinction that does not get discussed much. Yes, Alberta culturally is a distinct society.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 5 minutes ago, kingofsurrey said: Yes, Alberta culturally is a distinct society.... BC is distinct also. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curmudgeon Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 4 hours ago, Ryan Strome said: But I didn't say anything about flying you did. You are priceless. You tell me that a sovereign Alberta makes my flight to Toronto somehow dependent on the US, then tell me about Alberta airspace and how that makes me dependent boy. Then I point out to you that flights from Alberta to Toronto also pass through American air space, thereby making you just as dependent on the US as BC. Now you claim you weren’t talking about flying, even when that was the entire subject of the exchange. You claim to want to debate but you never concede a point. Ever. Your idea of give and take is you give and everyone else takes. So funny. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 4 minutes ago, Curmudgeon said: You are priceless. You tell me that a sovereign Alberta makes my flight to Toronto somehow dependent on the US, then tell me about Alberta airspace and how that makes me dependent boy. Then I point out to you that flights from Alberta to Toronto also pass through American air space, thereby making you just as dependent on the US as BC. Now you claim you weren’t talking about flying, even when that was the entire subject of the exchange. You claim to want to debate but you never concede a point. Ever. Your idea of give and take is you give and everyone else takes. So funny. I'm starting to think you lie as much as hippy. I never said any of that. I said I never said anything about flying, you did. Lol you're brutal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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