kingofsurrey Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 Canada will be better off without Alberta. Addition by Subtraction. Alberta with its un budgeted for oil land remediation with be broke province with 40 years.... Albertans at that time will be heading to Newfoundland looking for labour type jobs and a paycheck to buy groceries.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 13 minutes ago, Ryan Strome said: All he had to do was Google that to find out but now he wanted to post a silly picture. It's all right though they can import oil from the United States If you remember the Irving’s wanted Western crude for Halifax but of course was told no by Quebec. Irving wanted to expand that refinery to 500k bone per day and that hasn’t happened. A lot of their production goes into the eastern USA. Parkland in BC puts out 50k bone and BC has to import refined product. The synergies between AB and BC in energy production will overcome the nutbar attitudes in Vancouver bistros. BC will join the rest of the West. AB just has to show the leadership. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BPA Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 1 minute ago, Ryan Strome said: Well it would be ironic then wouldn't it because Canada was one of the loudest when Russia took Crimea why did Russia take Crimea oh yeah it's got a very strategic Naval Base I wonder what Russia will say at the United Nations if Canada were to say they're keeping bases in Alberta What the hell are you talking about?? Russia took over a sovereign state. Cold Lake is a Canadian military base in Canada which AB is currently a part of. If AB separates, the province of AB will not remain as it currently is. It was already outlined in the Clarity Act. It is in the best interest that Canada maintains its strategic defense by having Cold Lake surrounding area remain part of Canada. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowdyCanuck Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 9 minutes ago, gurn said: Especially when the cowboy gets his facts wrong. I was wrong once and that makes me an idoit? And I didn't try to fight the fact you were right and even gave you props.....so kick a guy while his down.....I see how it is. Instead of enlightening each other let's just throw stones ha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 2 minutes ago, BPA said: What the hell are you talking about?? Russia took over a sovereign state. Cold Lake is a Canadian military base in Canada which AB is currently a part of. If AB separates, the province of AB will not remain as it currently is. It was already outlined in the Clarity Act. It is in the best interest that Canada maintains its strategic defense by having Cold Lake surrounding area remain part of Canada. In this scenario Alberta would be separating that is what we are discussing so if Canada cap part of Alberta for military strategic purposes that would be exactly the same reason the Russians took Crimea they didn't take Crimea because they like the ocean they took it because that was their biggest Naval Base they had in fact they were paying rent on it to the ukrainians so what the hell are you talking about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 But in reality like I have stated over and over and over if Alberta were to leave Alberta and Canada would be great allies the fighting and hatred comes from you lefties like it always does. Furthermore Canada likely could keep that bass there and pay a rent to Alberta to have it there it would be beneficial to both Alberta and Canada as it would help Alberta with air superiority. Again like I have stated many many times if Alberta were to leave no question would we sell our oil and our grain to the rest of Canada nobody disputes that the anger that is being felt is there because of how Alberta is treated. Now if we become an independent sovereign country we don't have that anger anymore it's gone the way forward would be a partnership if that isn't what Canada wants then so be it but I can't Envision why they wouldn't want it that way. Again Alberta doesn't need Canada Canada needs Alberta. You guys in BC or Quebec or Ontario may not like that but that's the cold hard facts. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofsurrey Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 14 minutes ago, RowdyCanuck said: I was wrong once and that makes me an idoit? And I didn't try to fight the fact you were right and even gave you props.....so kick a guy while his down.....I see how it is. Instead of enlightening each other let's just throw stones ha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inane Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 9 minutes ago, Ryan Strome said: But in reality like I have stated over and over and over if Alberta were to leave Alberta and Canada would be great allies the fighting and hatred comes from you lefties like it always does. Furthermore Canada likely could keep that bass there and pay a rent to Alberta to have it there it would be beneficial to both Alberta and Canada as it would help Alberta with air superiority. Again like I have stated many many times if Alberta were to leave no question would we sell our oil and our grain to the rest of Canada nobody disputes that the anger that is being felt is there because of how Alberta is treated. Now if we become an independent sovereign country we don't have that anger anymore it's gone the way forward would be a partnership if that isn't what Canada wants then so be it but I can't Envision why they wouldn't want it that way. Again Alberta doesn't need Canada Canada needs Alberta. You guys in BC or Quebec or Ontario may not like that but that's the cold hard facts. You do know how ignorant this type of thing is, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowdyCanuck Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 Just now, kingofsurrey said: King I've even giving your props when your right..... I've also admitted to being wrong when I am. How come you and hippy can't follow suit? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofsurrey Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 10 minutes ago, Ryan Strome said: But in reality like I have stated over and over and over if Alberta were to leave Alberta and Canada would be great allies the fighting and hatred comes from you lefties like it always does. Furthermore Canada likely could keep that bass there and pay a rent to Alberta to have it there it would be beneficial to both Alberta and Canada as it would help Alberta with air superiority. Again like I have stated many many times if Alberta were to leave no question would we sell our oil and our grain to the rest of Canada nobody disputes that the anger that is being felt is there because of how Alberta is treated. Now if we become an independent sovereign country we don't have that anger anymore it's gone the way forward would be a partnership if that isn't what Canada wants then so be it but I can't Envision why they wouldn't want it that way. Again Alberta doesn't need Canada Canada needs Alberta. You guys in BC or Quebec or Ontario may not like that but that's the cold hard facts. With the imminent decline / end of the petro industry... Alberta will be a busted flush..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofsurrey Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 Just now, RowdyCanuck said: King I've even giving your props when your right..... I've also admitted to being wrong when I am. How come you and hippy can't follow suit? Just teasing you....... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 Just now, RowdyCanuck said: King I've even giving your props when your right..... I've also admitted to being wrong when I am. How come you and hippy can't follow suit? King is all class. Yes, his opinions are (often) different than mine, but he’s all class. He’s a bowler, and I’m a dodge baller. I often wondered about blending those two games together. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofsurrey Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 1 minute ago, Alflives said: King is all class. Yes, his opinions are (often) different than mine, but he’s all class. He’s a bowler, and I’m a dodge baller. I often wondered about blending those two games together. So Alf... are you sayin you are a. BALLER...... You are pretty cool OA...... Original Alien....... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowdyCanuck Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 2 minutes ago, kingofsurrey said: Just teasing you....... But the is king you have knowledge I don't. Youve seen things I haven't and that's why I'm on here cause everyone sees the world differently and everyone has a different back story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofsurrey Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 2 minutes ago, RowdyCanuck said: But the is king you have knowledge I don't. Youve seen things I haven't and that's why I'm on here cause everyone sees the world differently and everyone has a different back story. Yes, 100% true. Great to read others perspectives.... We all have had very different lives / experiences..... I would have a beer with anyone here and i am sure it would very enjoyable experience for me... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 28 minutes ago, RowdyCanuck said: I was wrong once and that makes me an idoit? And I didn't try to fight the fact you were right and even gave you props.....so kick a guy while his down.....I see how it is. Instead of enlightening each other let's just throw stones ha Firstly, you did admit to an error, which is more than many on here can do. Secondly, this post is starting to go all Strome(y). I never said that being wrong makes you and idiot, or however that is spelt. So why build a strawman? And if I ever start kicking you there will be no doubt about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BPA Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 28 minutes ago, Ryan Strome said: In this scenario Alberta would be separating that is what we are discussing so if Canada cap part of Alberta for military strategic purposes that would be exactly the same reason the Russians took Crimea they didn't take Crimea because they like the ocean they took it because that was their biggest Naval Base they had in fact they were paying rent on it to the ukrainians so what the hell are you talking about? Crimea was part of Ukraine. A separate sovereign country. It does not belong to Russia. Cold Lake and the surrounding areas are in AB but are a part of Canada. It is not the same thing. You want the house, the car, and the kids in this divorce. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofsurrey Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 3 minutes ago, BPA said: Crimea was part of Ukraine. A separate sovereign country. It does not belong to Russia. Cold Lake and the surrounding areas are in AB but are a part of Canada. It is not the same thing. You want the house, the car, and the kids in this divorce. Just make sure Albertastan has to keep Dead Rear and the Sweat Pant capital of Canada.... Edmonton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 25 minutes ago, inane said: You do know how ignorant this type of thing is, right? If there is so much hate towards Alberta why do you guys care if we leave? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofsurrey Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 1 minute ago, Ryan Strome said: If there is so much hate towards Alberta why do you guys care if we leave? We don't. Don't let the door hit you in the butt on your way out.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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