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32 minutes ago, WeneedLumme said:

As do the willfully ignorant. Speaking of which, where did you get your medical degree?

 

32 minutes ago, WeneedLumme said:

As do the willfully ignorant. Speaking of which, where did you get your medical degree?

It doesn’t take a degree to see that over the last 3 years, Bonnie has done a whole lot of talking out her ass and made some horrible decisions along the way.  
Personally, I’m tired of hearing from her.  
 

 

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Looks like researchers may have figured out a cause for the increased myocarditis cases.

 

FYI, Covid infection also causes myocarditis. 

 

It may also hint that these individuals may have suffered long covid or had a bad case of covid since the Spike Protein persisted in their system rather than being cleared by their immune system. 

 

 

https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1161/CIRCULATIONAHA.122.061025

 

Circulating Spike Protein Detected in Post–COVID-19 mRNA Vaccine Myocarditis

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If you want REAL-WORLD data on XBB look no further than Singapore. Cases were high due to the subvariant XBB, HOWEVER, 99.6% of Singapore’s VACCINATED (that’s a key word) cases are MILD or have NO symptoms. In addition, the nation has had VERY FEW deaths despite a surge in cases.

 

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On 1/4/2023 at 9:56 PM, thedestroyerofworlds said:

Looks like researchers may have figured out a cause for the increased myocarditis cases.

 

FYI, Covid infection also causes myocarditis. 

 

It may also hint that these individuals may have suffered long covid or had a bad case of covid since the Spike Protein persisted in their system rather than being cleared by their immune system. 

 

 

https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1161/CIRCULATIONAHA.122.061025

 

Circulating Spike Protein Detected in Post–COVID-19 mRNA Vaccine Myocarditis

Just to be clear here, what they are saying is it's not the vaccine that caused Myocarditis, it's the fact they already had COVID before they got the vaccine that was found to cause it?

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21 hours ago, -Vintage Canuck- said:

 

Not sure why they're still bothering with the "new cases reported", considering: 

1. they're not doing population-wide testing,

2. there's no mechanism for self-reporting, and

3. the figure is so grossly understated that it's basically meaningless, like using +/- as a goaltending metric.  :rolleyes:

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On 1/13/2023 at 12:58 PM, 6of1_halfdozenofother said:

Not sure why they're still bothering with the "new cases reported", considering: 

1. they're not doing population-wide testing,

2. there's no mechanism for self-reporting, and

3. the figure is so grossly understated that it's basically meaningless, like using +/- as a goaltending metric.  :rolleyes:

Ya I am vaccinated against COVID and the flu, but just COVID tested myself, and I am nice an sick. I think all that isolation let the other bugs get a little stronger.

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https://www.cnbc.com/2023/01/14/covid-news-china-reports-huge-rise-in-deaths-after-who-criticized-data.html

 

China said on Saturday nearly 60,000 people with COVID-19 had died in hospital since it abandoned its zero-COVID policy last month, a huge increase from previously reported figures that follows global criticism of the country’s coronavirus data.

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48 minutes ago, WeneedLumme said:

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/01/14/covid-news-china-reports-huge-rise-in-deaths-after-who-criticized-data.html

 

China said on Saturday nearly 60,000 people with COVID-19 had died in hospital since it abandoned its zero-COVID policy last month, a huge increase from previously reported figures that follows global criticism of the country’s coronavirus data.

I'd suggest those numbers are also incredibly generous and without hesitation very low estimates 

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13 hours ago, WeneedLumme said:

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/01/14/covid-news-china-reports-huge-rise-in-deaths-after-who-criticized-data.html

 

China said on Saturday nearly 60,000 people with COVID-19 had died in hospital since it abandoned its zero-COVID policy last month, a huge increase from previously reported figures that follows global criticism of the country’s coronavirus data.

Not sure why they didn't want to use our vaccines. As I joke (though this might be a bit serious) maybe we should have invite some guest researchers from China to the US vaccine research centres that came up with our vaccines and then they could have used the R&D (ripoff and duplicate) back home that is kinda par for the course.

 

If they were vaccinated there would be trouble still but it would be a lot less.

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10 minutes ago, ronthecivil said:

Not sure why they didn't want to use our vaccines.

Nationalistic pride.

 

It is always sad when so many end up dying, because of the decisions of a few 'high placed' people.

 

It is now 2023, yet I wonder just how much more advanced we are, compared to when the land owner would bring the circus to town, to entertain the peasants?

The toys and distractions are nicer, for sure, yet those with power  and money are still running the show.

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6 hours ago, Gurn said:

It is now 2023, yet I wonder just how much more advanced we are, compared to when the land owner would bring the circus to town, to entertain the peasants?

The toys and distractions are nicer, for sure, yet those with power  and money are still running the show.

How dare you call JTM9 and his teammates clowns... :bigblush:

 

 

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On 1/15/2023 at 8:50 PM, ronthecivil said:

Ya I am vaccinated against COVID and the flu, but just COVID tested myself, and I am nice a sick. I think all that isolation let the other bugs get a little stronger.

I was thinking about that the other day.  
yeah, most of us didn’t get sick when we were all staying home and wearing a mask for a couple years, but did that possibly weaken immune systems as well?

Not being exposed to the regular germs we all did our entire lives, then two years later, when the regular old cold and flu (not covid) comes around it seems worse than ever.  
Maybe isolation isn’t the right way to go about it (for many reasons).  
 

When I was a kid, parents sent you to your friends house when they had the chicken pox. 

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5 minutes ago, D.B Cooper said:

I was thinking about that the other day.  
yeah, most of us didn’t get sick when we were all staying home and wearing a mask for a couple years, but did that possibly weaken immune systems as well?

Not being exposed to the regular germs we all did our entire lives, then two years later, when the regular old cold and flu (not covid) comes around it seems worse than ever.  
Maybe isolation isn’t the right way to go about it (for many reasons).  
 

When I was a kid, parents sent you to your friends house when they had the chicken pox. 

Holy craperolla!  Think man.  Vaccines are good.  Being exposed to pathogens is bad.  Without vaccines we would be way worse off.  

The idiots who think the Covid vaccines are to be avoided ar3 the fools who line the pockets of the Joe Rogans of the world on their way to filling up our morgues. I don’t know if there is a more foolish group of people. 

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8 minutes ago, Alflives said:

Holy craperolla!  Think man.  Vaccines are good.  Being exposed to pathogens is bad.  Without vaccines we would be way worse off.  

The idiots who think the Covid vaccines are to be avoided ar3 the fools who line the pockets of the Joe Rogans of the world on their way to filling up our morgues. I don’t know if there is a more foolish group of people. 

I’m not talking about vaccines at all Alf.   
Didn’t even mention them. 
Put the glass down.  
Getting pretty close to putting you back on the old block

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