eeeeergh Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 1. To Van - 3rd Rounder To Phil- Nate Schmidt Yes Nate Schmidt is good, yes this was a down year for him, but with Rathbone up and coming, that 6m is far better spent on a defensive specialist, and upgrade to our 3rd line. Plus, yet another rumour surfaced that he wants out. Philly gets a really good top 4 puck moving d-man. 2. To Van - Scott Mayfield To NYI- 2nd Rounder Why does NYI do this? Expansion draft protection issues. Mayfield is likely the odd man out- even though he is well loved and on a great contract, Pulock, Pelech, Leddy all need to be protected, along with a bunch of forwards. Why does Vancouver do this? 1.5m contract for size and defensive responsibility, can kill penalties effectively. 3. Van-Col To Van - Joonas Donskoi To Col- 2022 2nd rounder + 2021 3rd rounder Why does Colorado do this? Minimize expansion draft losses - they now have a spot to protect Nichushkin, and get 4m off their books. Why does Vancouver do this? Legitimate top 6 winger who can score - likely costs us less than poaching Greenway from Minny (cost for him probably a 1st). UFA's: Oleksiak - 3x4.5m Palmieri - 2x3m (if we can make enough room, burying eriksson, getting Seattle to take Hotlby, etc.) TLDR: Schmidt's contract (which is expensive now, and will likely not age well) gets replaced by a top 6 winger + a defensively responsible and big D-man. + We add size on the back end by signing Oleksiak. Next years lineup: Donskoi-Petey-Boeser Hoglander-Horvat-Pearson Palmeiri-Miller-Podkolzin Motte-Beagle-Highmore Hughes-Oleksiak Mayfield-Myers Edler-Rathbone *Juolevi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VegasCanuck Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 Schmidt is worth a LOT more than a 3rd rounder. He's a solid and proven top 4 who had a rough start adapting to a new team. He's a solid fit here long term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
48MPHSlapShot Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 The only reason we landed Schmidt for a 3rd was because Vegas only had a 24 hour window to move him. That was never a true true indication of his value. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eeeeergh Posted July 3, 2021 Author Share Posted July 3, 2021 1 minute ago, 48MPHSlapShot said: The only reason we landed Schmidt for a 3rd was because Vegas only had a 24 hour window to move him. That was never a true true indication of his value. Agreed he's worth more - but him actually wanting a trade + his contract is going to make other GMs squeeze us. Most teams won't be able to afford taking on a 6m contract at this point. Rathbone was a nice surprise, and changes the game for us imo. It's not about getting absolute top dollar for Schmidt, its about getting the best lineup as a result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 (edited) 11 minutes ago, eeeeergh said: but him actually wanting a trade Complete rumour, denied by the player and the team, rumour re born by an easten reporter. Then Dhaliwahl gave it legs by saying "Still hearing Nate wants out". Hey, Mr Dhaliwahl, I'm still hearing about Nate wanting out as well; not from anybody that would know, just from people saying the same baseless thing. Edited July 3, 2021 by gurn 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eeeeergh Posted July 3, 2021 Author Share Posted July 3, 2021 1 minute ago, gurn said: Complete rumour, denied by the player and the team, rumour re born by an easten reporter. Then Dhaliwahl gave it legs by saying "Still hearing Nate wants out". Hopefully then we can get more for him - Schmidt for 2nd Rounder and a prospect (maybe we have to retain some salary Idk). I still think we should trade him if we can - that 6m can really help us in other areas, given Rathbone's readiness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
48MPHSlapShot Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 12 minutes ago, eeeeergh said: Agreed he's worth more - but him actually wanting a trade + his contract is going to make other GMs squeeze us. Most teams won't be able to afford taking on a 6m contract at this point. Rathbone was a nice surprise, and changes the game for us imo. It's not about getting absolute top dollar for Schmidt, its about getting the best lineup as a result. It's just a rumor at this point, but even if we assume it's true, I'd rather hold off and try to convince him to play another year than sell him for scraps. I fully expect that, if he's deployed to his strengths, he'll have a much better season next year. Also, if he truly wants out then he should be willing to open up his 10 team no trade list. Bottom line is if the return isnt there, I'd rather keep him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallstreetamigo Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 Philly is going hard after Seth Jones and will very likely be looking at a RHD in free agency if they strike out on him. Schmidt might be a good fallback option to them for a 3rd but i dont think that trade would happen pre expansion draft. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flickyoursedin Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 Schmidt is worth more, Mayfield is worth more and Donskoi is worth less. No way it should take as much as Arvidsson to get him. Arvidsson >> Donskoi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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