Ghostsof1915 Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 (edited) 14 minutes ago, JohnTavares said: Yup. This trade is far worse because it was terrible from the onset. Cam Neely as a Canuck: Pederson has 76 and 71 point years for us before falling off a cliff. The Neely trade was a 20/20 hindsight gone bad... the OEL trade is a completely different animal. Yeah, in the Neely trade we included a 3rd overall pick. Which turned out to be Glen Wesley. Who played 1457 games in the NHL, and 537 points as a defenceman. You know what would have been worse? If Boston in 1987 instead of drafting Wesley, they drafted Joe Sakic. Edited December 23, 2022 by Ghostsof1915 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnTavares Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 On 7/23/2021 at 1:34 PM, Squamfan said: We were all happy that those awful contracts were coming of the books next year and guess what Jimbo does goes out and gets a contract that is 10 times worse than Erikkson. Benning bros can’t even defend this. all of this is that cheap pathetically owners fault . He stuck with Jim and Canucks fans are paying the price of an inept band incompetent gm who has no clue in what he is doing. He needed to be fired when this season ended but unfortunately we made that mistake and now are suffering. I'm sorry you were chastised by this board for having the right opinion. You knew all along. On 7/23/2021 at 1:37 PM, sarjakd said: Get out. Go cheer for another team Classic toxic CDC behaviour... how is this place so toxic now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzle Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 44 minutes ago, JohnTavares said: I see so many people hating on Friedman because his '32 thoughts/rumors' don't come to fruition. "OH ELLIOTS A HACK HE JUST NAME DROPS VANCOUVER TO GENERATE CLICKS" Like a bunch of people who smashing their keyboards on a computer think they know more than arguably the most connected media member in the league. Not to mention, a lot of ideas/trades get discussed but never materialize. I remember when this was used to describe Eklund, or at least what he thought of himself as - an insider... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzle Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 1 minute ago, JohnTavares said: I'm sorry you were chastised by this board for having the right opinion. You knew all along. Classic toxic CDC behaviour... how is this place so toxic now? Nah, being negative doesn't necessarily make him right. When there were good moments, he found a way to find the negatives. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnTavares Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 Just now, Dazzle said: Nah, being negative doesn't necessarily make him right. When there were good moments, he found a way to find the negatives. Regardless of what he said in other instances, he was dead right in his comment. You can go back and look at the reaction from CDC towards him. I don't even know this guy, just pointing out how toxic CDC is when you disagree with the consensus. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 6 minutes ago, Dazzle said: I remember when this was used to describe Eklund, or at least what he thought of himself as - an insider... It was more funny that Sportsnet thought he WAS an insider. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck73_3 Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 16 minutes ago, JohnTavares said: Yup. This trade is far worse because it was terrible from the onset. Cam Neely as a Canuck: Pederson has 76 and 71 point years for us before falling off a cliff. The Neely trade was a 20/20 hindsight gone bad... the OEL trade is a completely different animal. 9 minutes ago, Ghostsof1915 said: Yeah, in the Neely trade we included a 3rd overall pick. Which turned out to be Glen Wesley. Who played 1457 games in the NHL, and 537 points as a defenceman. Again, not even close JT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck73_3 Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 6 minutes ago, JohnTavares said: Regardless of what he said in other instances, he was dead right in his comment. You can go back and look at the reaction from CDC towards him. I don't even know this guy, just pointing out how toxic CDC is when you disagree with the consensus. No, Squam was negative about everything. Context matters. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnTavares Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 On 7/23/2021 at 2:11 PM, awalk said: A 2nd and 7th as well? Desperate GM making desperate short term moves to keep his job. My boy. Feel you bro. When everyone laughs at you but you were just trying to tell people what was happening in reality. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post canuck73_3 Posted December 23, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 23, 2022 8 minutes ago, Dazzle said: Nah, being negative doesn't necessarily make him right. When there were good moments, he found a way to find the negatives. If the Canucks won the Cup Squam would cry that the Parade turned left on Granville and not Burrard. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnTavares Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 1 minute ago, canuck73_3 said: Again, not even close JT. There's no guarantee we would have even picked Wesley. On paper, we gave up a top pick and a struggling player for a top line player. Who knew Pederson was gonna drop off after 2 years? Who knew Neely was suddenly going to go from a 30 point player to a 90 point player? This is all hindsight... it's literally in the definition of hindsight. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck73_3 Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 Just now, JohnTavares said: There's no guarantee we would have even picked Wesley. On paper, we gave up a top pick and a struggling player for a top line player. Who knew Pederson was gonna drop off after 2 years? Who knew Neely was suddenly going to go from a 30 point player to a 90 point player? This is all hindsight... it's literally in the definition of hindsight. Pederson was coming off shoulder surgery and was a shell of himself, it was an awful trade from day 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnTavares Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 On 7/23/2021 at 1:53 PM, -SN- said: So, I have to say I don't like this. We've essentially extended an awful contract, except now it's worse. We don't have a first round pick, again, and we're running dry on prospects. For everyone saying Gillis left us with the cupboards empty, Benning is doing the same. On 7/23/2021 at 1:55 PM, J-Dizzle said: You’re wrong. CDC in a nutshell. Great job SN for calling it like it is, despite going against the grain. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4petesake Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 4 minutes ago, canuck73_3 said: Pederson was coming off shoulder surgery and was a shell of himself, it was an awful trade from day 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-DLC- Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 4 minutes ago, JohnTavares said: CDC in a nutshell. Great job SN for calling it like it is, despite going against the grain. Enough with the CDC is toxic, etc. Get on topic. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnTavares Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 On 7/23/2021 at 2:21 PM, Josepho said: This is going to be a fun read when everyone realizes how much of an anchor OEL's contract is in 2024. My guy, you were right but 2 years late. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnTavares Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 7 minutes ago, canuck73_3 said: Pederson was coming off shoulder surgery and was a shell of himself, it was an awful trade from day 1 So they took a risk and they failed. Pederson still had 2 productive years for us. That's basically what hindsight means. This trade was bad from the start and many called it from the beginning, just check the first couple of pages. Similarly, Naslund for Stojanov trade was bad the instant it was made. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higgyfan Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 37 minutes ago, JohnTavares said: Yup. This trade is far worse because it was terrible from the onset. Cam Neely as a Canuck: Pederson has 76 and 71 point years for us before falling off a cliff. The Neely trade was a 20/20 hindsight gone bad... the OEL trade is a completely different animal. One could say that trading a 9oa pick at 20yrs old, is just another example of a Canuck management lacking patience. Just like Benning when he made the OEL trade. Just couldn't wait another season until the 3 players became UFAs. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post canuck73_3 Posted December 23, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 23, 2022 16 minutes ago, JohnTavares said: My guy, you were right but 2 years late. Except OEL was good last year so no he wasn’t. Denying he was good doesn’t make it fact. Even if Hughes was our best dman last year then at worst OEL was 2nd best. Objectively. You refuse to look at this objectively in a futile attempt to appear right just like your defending of the Neely trade which was truly franchise crippling. Neely on the roster in 94 and the Canucks beat New York. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzle Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 41 minutes ago, JohnTavares said: Regardless of what he said in other instances, he was dead right in his comment. You can go back and look at the reaction from CDC towards him. I don't even know this guy, just pointing out how toxic CDC is when you disagree with the consensus. Saying he was right "this entire time" is the equivalent of saying a clock is right twice in a day. It's absolute nonsense. He was negative about everything. At what point are we going to pick out the 'wrong' things he said? This is a classic cherrypicking scenario. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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