MaxVerstappen33 Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 (edited) He was #2 pick in 2016. Got 44 goals in 2018. I have no idea what he's worth. He's on a one year contract. But someone will trade for his rights and sign him Horvat, Rathbone and a conditional 1st ? Boeser, ________ and a conditional 2022 1st ? No low balling. Nothing that you wouldn't post on CBJ's HF forum with a straight face. Maybe we could hash out an offer and submit it to their forum. See what the reaction is.. Edited November 28, 2021 by MaxVerstappen33 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I.Am.Ironman Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 At this point, I wouldn't offer more than Boeser straight across for a 1:1 swap. Both are struggling, both used to be dangerous snipers, both are up for a new contract, neither are earning their current contract. Even then I'm not sure I do it given the risk of disrupting the room (lol given current affairs). It seems like a lateral move at best. All speculation, but I also imagine that Boeser is probably more 'locker room friendly'. He has a good head on his shoulders which, to me, adds value. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twilight Sparkle Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 wouldn't be surprised if he just packs up and goes to europe. just doesn't have what it takes in the NHL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammertime Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 6 minutes ago, MaxVerstappen33 said: He was #2 pick in 2016. Got 44 goals in 2018. I have no idea what he's worth. Horvat, Rathbone and a conditional 1st ? Boeser, ________ and a conditional 2022 1st ? No low balling. Nothing that you wouldn't post on CBJ's HF forum with a straight face. Maybe we could hash out an offer and submit it to their forum. See what the reaction is.. JT Miller straight up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustABandwagoner Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 Boeser & Rathbone (as the sweetener) 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxVerstappen33 Posted November 28, 2021 Author Share Posted November 28, 2021 Just now, Twilight Sparkle said: wouldn't be surprised if he just packs up and goes to europe. just doesn't have what it takes in the NHL He averaged 30+ goals per year until covid. You cant score 30 goals every year of your career and not "have what it takes" 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odd. Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 (edited) He’s a PPG right now..? Edited November 28, 2021 by Odd. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxVerstappen33 Posted November 28, 2021 Author Share Posted November 28, 2021 4 minutes ago, hammertime said: JT Miller straight up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxVerstappen33 Posted November 28, 2021 Author Share Posted November 28, 2021 5 minutes ago, I.Am.Ironman said: At this point, I wouldn't offer more than Boeser straight across for a 1:1 swap. Both are struggling, both used to be dangerous snipers, both are up for a new contract, neither are earning their current contract. Even then I'm not sure I do it given the risk of disrupting the room (lol given current affairs). It seems like a lateral move at best. All speculation, but I also imagine that Boeser is probably more 'locker room friendly'. He has a good head on his shoulders which, to me, adds value. You know that's a ridiculous low ball right ? Imagine we got the #2 over all pick in 2016 and he scored 30 goals for 4 seasons. We'd ask for the moon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twilight Sparkle Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 6 minutes ago, MaxVerstappen33 said: He averaged 30+ goals per year until covid. You cant score 30 goals every year of your career and not "have what it takes" then completely disappeared when it mattered the most. the canucks have enough of those guys 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxVerstappen33 Posted November 28, 2021 Author Share Posted November 28, 2021 3 minutes ago, Odd. said: He’s a PPG right now..? Looks like it. But he's very streaky and isn't that good defensively they say Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 10 points in 9 games is struggling? 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odd. Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 Something tells me Laine isn’t going to mesh well with our system… unless of course green is gone 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxVerstappen33 Posted November 28, 2021 Author Share Posted November 28, 2021 1 minute ago, Elias Pettersson said: 10 points in 9 games is struggling? Not right now but he was. He's on a hot streak. And on a one year deal. Obviously things aren't perfect when you sign a one year deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammertime Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 1 minute ago, MaxVerstappen33 said: Is it though? Miller has more points in the last 3 years is cheeper and signed. Laine is RFA with a risky QO and attitude problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devron Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 Why would Columbus trade him. Looks like he’s found his place there with Torts gone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxVerstappen33 Posted November 28, 2021 Author Share Posted November 28, 2021 21 minutes ago, hammertime said: Is it though? Miller has more points in the last 3 years is cheeper and signed. Laine is RFA with a risky QO and attitude problems. Laine for all his faults (bad skating, streaky, effort) still has high draft pedigree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ballisticsports. Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 31 minutes ago, MaxVerstappen33 said: You know that's a ridiculous low ball right ? Imagine we got the #2 over all pick in 2016 and he scored 30 goals for 4 seasons. We'd ask for the moon. In the old days we'd start out asking for the moon, but would probably retain some salary and add our 2nd pick , to get a prospect and a 3rd round Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I.Am.Ironman Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 (edited) 58 minutes ago, MaxVerstappen33 said: You know that's a ridiculous low ball right ? Imagine we got the #2 over all pick in 2016 and he scored 30 goals for 4 seasons. We'd ask for the moon. Statistically it's probably a low ball but I don't know about ridiculous. I gave my reasons. Laine's reported attitude problems, if true, lower his value. I would add a small sweetener to Boeser but nothing more. And let's not pretend Laine is producing at the rate he was in his first few seasons. He scored 12 goals last year (22ish goal pace/82). Boeser has scored near 30g pace his first few years but without the reported attitude problems. I will also speculate that there seems to be more loyalty in Boeser than there is in Laine. Today that's what I'd be willing to give up. If Laine scores 40 this year and Boeser scores 20 then obviously the conversation changes. Edited November 28, 2021 by I.Am.Ironman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxVerstappen33 Posted November 28, 2021 Author Share Posted November 28, 2021 6 minutes ago, I.Am.Ironman said: Statistically it's probably a low ball but I don't know about ridiculous. I gave my reasons. Laine's reported attitude problems, if true, lower his value. I would add a small sweetener to Boeser but nothing more. And let's not pretend Laine is producing at the rate he was in his first few seasons. He scored 12 goals last year (22ish goal pace/82). Boeser has scored near 30g pace his first few years but without the reported attitude problems. I will also speculate that there seems to be more loyalty in Boeser than there is in Laine. Today that's what I'd be willing to give up. If Laine scores 40 this year and Boeser scores 20 then obviously the conversation changes. Ok but what do you expect that CBJ fans would want ? I bet they would expect either of Boeser or Miller and our 1st round pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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