Kevin Biestra Posted April 7, 2022 Author Share Posted April 7, 2022 (edited) 36 minutes ago, IBatch said: Ronning was is one of my all-time favourite Canucks. Miller passing him is quite the feet really. Miller with a few more multi point games down the home stretch has a decent shot at catching Bertuzzi. That's really something and quite the accomplishment. Bertuzzi was an absolute beast at his peak with us. I do expect him to enter the elite company, of just a handful of guys we've had, that breaks the 90 point barrier.... Yeah Ronning is for sure one of my all time favorite Canucks, top ten for sure I'd say and I have made a moderate case before for him in the Ring of Honour. Aside from the glaring omission in my books King Richard, I have Ronning as part of the next tier of candidates with Boudrias, Lidster, Lever, Williams, Gino, etc. I always thought two statues outside the rink of Williams and Ronning riding their sticks side by side would look pretty good. And I've always been inclined to do a little more to honor Ivan Hlinka as one of the first Czechs in the NHL, given his participation in the 1982 run plus his international legendary standing. That was another trade I forgot about when it came to trading the future to get over the hump in the present in 1982. The Canucks really did a major Benning in that regard, betting huge on the present without a lot of indication that the time was now - Brent Ashton and a pick for Ivan Hlinka, Rick Vaive and Bill Derlago for Tiger Williams - without that cup run it would have been a disaster giving away those three players...all had great futures ahead of them. Ashton had something like ten 20 goal seasons and hit 40 one year. Edited April 7, 2022 by Kevin Biestra 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdgraham Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 On 3/26/2022 at 9:36 PM, Kevin Biestra said: With JT Miller's 80th point tonight he matches Trevor Linden's career best and enters a pretty elite club of all time Canucks in a single season. How far up the ladder can he climb? 81 points to match Rota 85 points to match Ronning 86 points to match Gradin and Tanti 88 points to match Smyl 91 points to match Sundstrom 97 points to match Bertuzzi He's already in the pantheon of Canucks greats, already surpassed the peak points of Petri Skriko, Geoff Courtnall, Don Lever, Ryan Kesler, Andre Boudrias and Barry Pederson. Andre Boudrias - 78 points - surpassed Petri Skriko - 78 points - surpassed Geoff Courtnall - 77 points - surpassed Barry Pederson - 76 points - surpassed Greg Adams - 76 points - surpassed Ryan Kesler - 75 points - surpassed Ivan Boldirev - 73 points - surpassed Dennis Ververgaert - 71 points - surpassed Brendan Morrison - 71 points - surpassed Petr Nedved - 71 points - surpassed Bobby Schmautz - 71 points - surpassed Don Lever - 68 points - surpassed Rick Blight - 68 points - surpassed Martin Gelinas - 68 points - surpassed Curt Fraser - 67 points - surpassed Mike Walton - 66 points - surpassed Igor Larionov - 65 points - surpassed Russ Courtnall - 65 points - surpassed Ivan Hlinka - 63 points - surpassed Tiger Williams - 62 points - surpassed Chris Oddleifson - 62 points - surpassed Orland Kurtenbach - 61 points - surpassed Bald thing that skated leisurely circles between the blue lines at center ice - 60 points - surpassed He's coming for those names... You missed burrows on your list of 60 point getters! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBatch Posted April 8, 2022 Share Posted April 8, 2022 (edited) 22 hours ago, Kevin Biestra said: Yeah Ronning is for sure one of my all time favorite Canucks, top ten for sure I'd say and I have made a moderate case before for him in the Ring of Honour. Aside from the glaring omission in my books King Richard, I have Ronning as part of the next tier of candidates with Boudrias, Lidster, Lever, Williams, Gino, etc. I always thought two statues outside the rink of Williams and Ronning riding their sticks side by side would look pretty good. And I've always been inclined to do a little more to honor Ivan Hlinka as one of the first Czechs in the NHL, given his participation in the 1982 run plus his international legendary standing. That was another trade I forgot about when it came to trading the future to get over the hump in the present in 1982. The Canucks really did a major Benning in that regard, betting huge on the present without a lot of indication that the time was now - Brent Ashton and a pick for Ivan Hlinka, Rick Vaive and Bill Derlago for Tiger Williams - without that cup run it would have been a disaster giving away those three players...all had great futures ahead of them. Ashton had something like ten 20 goal seasons and hit 40 one year. Looks like Miller quietly tied Ronning last night .... Next up coming soon ... The way our PP has been clicking, Miller's odds of catching Bertuzzi have gone from slim-modest- to not bad Edited April 8, 2022 by IBatch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Biestra Posted April 8, 2022 Author Share Posted April 8, 2022 10 minutes ago, IBatch said: Looks like Miller quietly tied Ronning last night .... Next up coming soon ... The way our PP has been clicking, Miller's odds of catching Bertuzzi have gone from slim-modest- to not bad Yeah once you get to Cliff it's a nice little run of Canucks legends if you get three more points. Then once you shoot for 90 and above it's like the death zone of Everest or K2. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBatch Posted April 8, 2022 Share Posted April 8, 2022 3 minutes ago, Kevin Biestra said: Yeah once you get to Cliff it's a nice little run of Canucks legends if you get three more points. Then once you shoot for 90 and above it's like the death zone of Everest or K2. No doubt. 100 would surely be something but probably too much to ask for - a 3-4 point game would sure go far on the quest though. 10 games ... 15 points... not a ridiculous ask given some of his point streaks this season. I'd be happy if he tied Bertuzzi. That was one monster season by him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Biestra Posted April 8, 2022 Author Share Posted April 8, 2022 (edited) 36 minutes ago, IBatch said: No doubt. 100 would surely be something but probably too much to ask for - a 3-4 point game would sure go far on the quest though. 10 games ... 15 points... not a ridiculous ask given some of his point streaks this season. I'd be happy if he tied Bertuzzi. That was one monster season by him. For sure. Bert may have actually had my vote for the Hart that year. I think I had him ahead of Naslund anyway...about 7 points difference or something with Bert's added physicality. Edited April 8, 2022 by Kevin Biestra 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ballisticsports. Posted April 8, 2022 Share Posted April 8, 2022 On 3/27/2022 at 11:07 AM, justathought said: Garland reminds me of Cliff. They both take beatings and keep getting up and preform at top speed. Pat Q used to say Cliff R would be black and blue after a game. He had a ton of respect for him. He does remind me of Ronning in being small tenacious and elusive with the puck, but Ronning was a much better scorer and player Ronning was not only black and blue, but played game 7 with a broken hand (gutsy but how that would limit his game) I hope Garland stays, unless the return for him is too great 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Biestra Posted April 8, 2022 Author Share Posted April 8, 2022 21 minutes ago, ba;;isticsports said: He does remind me of Ronning in being small tenacious and elusive with the puck, but Ronning was a much better scorer and player Ronning was not only black and blue, but played game 7 with a broken hand (gutsy but how that would limit his game) I hope Garland stays, unless the return for him is too great Yeah I sometimes wonder if a washed up Jimmy Carson or a rookie Mike Peca might have been more effective than a broken Ronning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ballisticsports. Posted April 8, 2022 Share Posted April 8, 2022 3 minutes ago, Kevin Biestra said: Yeah I sometimes wonder if a washed up Jimmy Carson or a rookie Mike Peca might have been more effective than a broken Ronning. Ronning broke it in that game 7 so he was the right guy to start the game over Carson or Peca Unfortunately the history of Bad Canuck luck (Injuries, lottery picks ,travel, refs, league rulings never help us) had our best player out injured in that one too Ronning had this to say of that game "You don't know this, but Trevor Linden had cracked ribs and torn rib cartilage for the last four games of the 1994 Stanley Cup Final," Cliff Ronning said. "You can't imagine what it's like to hear your captain, in a room down the hall, screaming at the top of his lungs as they injected the needle into his rib cage. Knowing him, he probably thought we couldn't hear. He would then walk into our dressing room like nothing had happened. That was inspirational."Ronning was remembering Linden dropping his right shoulder into Brian Leetch, pushing the defenseman to the side and scoring on Mike Richter to make the score 2-1 Rangers in Game 7 of the Final. Linden couldn't will his team to victory that night, despite his two goals, in the deciding 3-2 loss."I broke my hand in that game," Ronning recalled. "But how do I say I can't play when there's a guy who has played four games with broken ribs and torn cartilage and he's dropping his shoulder into guys to make plays? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Biestra Posted April 8, 2022 Author Share Posted April 8, 2022 6 minutes ago, ba;;isticsports said: Ronning broke it in that game 7 so he was the right guy to start the game over Carson or Peca Unfortunately the history of Bad Canuck luck (Injuries, lottery picks ,travel, refs, league rulings never help us) had our best player out injured in that one too Ronning had this to say of that game "You don't know this, but Trevor Linden had cracked ribs and torn rib cartilage for the last four games of the 1994 Stanley Cup Final," Cliff Ronning said. "You can't imagine what it's like to hear your captain, in a room down the hall, screaming at the top of his lungs as they injected the needle into his rib cage. Knowing him, he probably thought we couldn't hear. He would then walk into our dressing room like nothing had happened. That was inspirational."Ronning was remembering Linden dropping his right shoulder into Brian Leetch, pushing the defenseman to the side and scoring on Mike Richter to make the score 2-1 Rangers in Game 7 of the Final. Linden couldn't will his team to victory that night, despite his two goals, in the deciding 3-2 loss."I broke my hand in that game," Ronning recalled. "But how do I say I can't play when there's a guy who has played four games with broken ribs and torn cartilage and he's dropping his shoulder into guys to make plays? Yeah, but Bure getting away with his elbow in 1994 was enough good luck for me to not complain too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danjr Posted April 8, 2022 Share Posted April 8, 2022 On 3/27/2022 at 8:05 AM, EddieVedder said: Why do fans care so much about individual stats? The only thing they matters is winning and getting into the playoffs. I could not care less who scoring and how much. Why even bother being here then. Watch either the last game the Canucks play in the playoffs to see if they win the cup or see who wins the cup. So no sense posting with that kind of attitude. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sativika Posted April 9, 2022 Share Posted April 9, 2022 On 3/27/2022 at 7:05 AM, EddieVedder said: Why do fans care so much about individual stats? The only thing they matters is winning and getting into the playoffs. I could not care less who scoring and how much. Dude. Part of the whole aspect of being a fan of one's home team; Our Canucks, is to immerse oneself into everything about it. The ups, the downs, players; past, present and future, coach, management, The 2 Johns, Jim and Larscheid, and on and on. We care 'cuz we're passionate. Back to topic.......... .....Yea. It's great that we have someone on our team that we can be excited about again. To cheer for and to hold close to our home cheering hearts. That being said. it'd be sh#tty to lose him! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptKirk888 Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 On 3/26/2022 at 11:18 PM, Fred65 said: Bure had 110 ts in 2010 Was it a beer league? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Biestra Posted April 15, 2022 Author Share Posted April 15, 2022 With 4 points JT Miller leapfrogs the great Stan Smyl and joins the 90 point club...and the night isn't over yet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 On 4/8/2022 at 5:16 AM, IBatch said: No doubt. 100 would surely be something but probably too much to ask for - a 3-4 point game would sure go far on the quest though. 10 games ... 15 points... not a ridiculous ask given some of his point streaks this season. I'd be happy if he tied Bertuzzi. That was one monster season by him. Done. What's next? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger-Hearted Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 (edited) "Miller Time" with FIVE assists. Becomes one of a few select Canucks players to get 5 assists in a game. Just one assist off from Patrik Sundstrom's club record. Miller also cracked the 60-assist mark and became just the second North American-born Canuck, Todd Bertuzzi being the other, to crack 90 points. If he gets moved, Rutherford and GM Alvin better get a king's ransom in return. Edited April 15, 2022 by Tiger-Hearted 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KyGuy123 Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 15 minutes ago, Tiger-Hearted said: "Miller Time" with FIVE assists. Becomes one of a few select Canucks players to get 5 assists in a game. Just one assist off from Patrik Sundstrom's club record. Miller also cracked the 60-assist mark and became just the second Canadian-born Canuck, Todd Bertuzzi being the other, to crack 90 points. If he gets moved, Rutherford and GM Alvin better get a king's ransom in return. JT Miller is American. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger-Hearted Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 (edited) 24 minutes ago, KyGuy123 said: JT Miller is American. Made the correction. My goof. Good eye and thanks. Edited April 15, 2022 by Tiger-Hearted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Biestra Posted April 24, 2022 Author Share Posted April 24, 2022 96 points with three games to go. One point to catch Bertuzzi...four points in three games to get 100. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBatch Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 Well he tied Berturzzi...that's really impressive. If he gets 100 points? Well that's a good game for him away now. Just wow. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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