dumbest ideas?

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1 hour ago, MystifyNCrucify said:

. If im not mistaken, they were sold to egypt for 1 million apiece?

Sold at auction, for about $20 mill. Way under what the Washington Marine group offered to by them for.

Michael Smythe- the Province reporter had a show on CKNW. His first episode had  Jonathan 'something' the ceo of Washington mg on. He stated the company had offered $75 mill to the liberal government, but was turned down.

lost about $50 mill when they went to auction.

[JM_]

1 hour ago, gurn said:

Sold at auction, for about $20 mill. Way under what the Washington Marine group offered to by them for.

Michael Smythe- the Province reporter had a show on CKNW. His first episode had  Jonathan 'something' the ceo of Washington mg on. He stated the company had offered $75 mill to the liberal government, but was turned down.

lost about $50 mill when they went to auction.

so 5% of the total bungled project cost? 

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10 minutes ago, JM_ said:

so 5% of the total bungled project cost? 

A wiser man than Glen Clark would have just told BC. Ferries to build new conventional ships, that was all the ferries wanted anyway.

Fast Cats were built to make the crossing quicker- though in 25 years of working on the ships I never heard someone say "It is taking to long to get to the other side".

 

Funny thing- when the company discovered just how far over weight/under powered the ships were:

They actually sent out a memo saying no crew member over 225 pound was eligible to work on the cats. Guess they never heard of human rights and discrimination.

[Pears]

Not necessarily sure this qualifies as an idea but back in 2013 17 year old me was convinced we had a future superstar in Hunter Shinkaruk 

Edited July 30, 2022 by Pears

[Ghostsof1915]

28 minutes ago, gurn said:

A wiser man than Glen Clark would have just told BC. Ferries to build new conventional ships, that was all the ferries wanted anyway.

Fast Cats were built to make the crossing quicker- though in 25 years of working on the ships I never heard someone say "It is taking to long to get to the other side".

 

Funny thing- when the company discovered just how far over weight/under powered the ships were:

They actually sent out a memo saying no crew member over 225 pound was eligible to work on the cats. Guess they never heard of human rights and discrimination.

It wasn't a terrible idea, just horrible implentation. They should have signed a joint venture with Incat in Australia (Tasmania).

The Cat, used 2002-2011 By Bay Ferries going from Nova Scotia to Maine. Then it got sold to China. And in 2022 it's back in Yarmouth.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HSC_Hai_Xia_Hao

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incat

 

The idea was to jump start our marine construction, by going with an advanced design. Yes a more conventional, perhaps working on reliablity and effeciency instead of speed might have been the better approach. We didn't need 40 knot ferries. 28-30 would have been almost twice as fast as existing ferries, and the Cat can hold 200 vehicles and 760 passengers. (By the way that's 25% more vehicles than the Salish Ferries) But yes the Coastal class ferries are a compromise between speed and load.

 

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23 minutes ago, Ghostsof1915 said:

It wasn't a terrible idea, just horrible implentation. They should have signed a joint venture with Incat in Australia (Tasmania).

The Cat, used 2002-2011 By Bay Ferries going from Nova Scotia to Maine. Then it got sold to China. And in 2022 it's back in Yarmouth.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HSC_Hai_Xia_Hao

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incat

 

The idea was to jump start our marine construction, by going with an advanced design. Yes a more conventional, perhaps working on reliablity and effeciency instead of speed might have been the better approach. We didn't need 40 knot ferries. 28-30 would have been almost twice as fast as existing ferries, and the Cat can hold 200 vehicles and 760 passengers. (By the way that's 25% more vehicles than the Salish Ferries) But yes the Coastal class ferries are a compromise between speed and load.

 

Not all that good an idea, though.

Incat and Stena had been building and selling Fast ships for years, yet Glen though he could build a company to compete with people that had at a decade's head start.

The politics around the whole thing was nutty.

The NDP government forced the build onto ferries-who didn't want them.

The Liberals forced their sale at auction.

Then the Liberals 'sold' off or 'privatized' the ferries because of how poor the ferries bottom line looked- in basically the same way they sold off BC Rail- force the company to take an immediate shellacking, by mandating a one year write off of losses, that had been slated to be disposed of over a decade; then say- BC Rail is losing money- then sell it.

 

 

 

 

 

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