Bad_BOI_pete Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 1 hour ago, HKSR said: Exactly. The piss poor attitude of "oh well, he's a dime a dozen and can be replaced" is why our prospects have such a crappy track record of being developed in the system. If our development program was better, we'd probably see a bit more come out of our later rounds. Multiple GMs and multiple scouts over a decade and we haven't produced much, if anything, outside of the 1st or 2nd rounds. Maybe it's time we look at the problem being development rather than scouting. Losing guys like this doesn't hurt the big club, but it sure as hell hurts our farm team. There has been 84 players placed on waivers this season not including opening season roster waivers..... every team risks losing players that they do not care about losing.... im sure many of them are very good ahl players too.... there is no reason to be upset... really... this happens all the time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad_BOI_pete Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 2 minutes ago, stawns said: 18 goals in 19 games with Abby. so like the a good but not superstar ahl player? Gotcha! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 45 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: Lane Pederson hasn't played in Abby in over a month. Since that time, we have sent down Podkolzin, Hoglander and Aman. Abby is alot stronger now than when Pederson was on the team. Also, Pederson needed to clear waivers to go back down. He didn't, so it's all a moot point... Abby has 5 wins in 11 games in the month of January. In December they were 8-3 in 11 games. Just throwing that out there. Not sure if a sub .500 winning % is considered doing well lol. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad_BOI_pete Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 8 minutes ago, 6of1_halfdozenofother said: Proper asset management is the sign of a management team that's on top of their game. Losing an asset for nothing is the opposite of proper asset management - in fact, it's why the BoHo trade rumours exist. That this management team has lost an asset for nothing when they had every opportunity to avoid such an outcome is extremely troubling and a sign that someone isn't doing their job. LOL... every team in the league utilizes waivers.... 84 times this year... this is spilt milk... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 4 minutes ago, Bad_BOI_pete said: so like the a good but not superstar ahl player? Gotcha! You think a goal a game is just "good"? The kids need to be in a winning environment, that's the very best thing for them.......losing pedersen for no reason is a terrible way to manage an important asset. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarnBurner Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 30 minutes ago, Bad_BOI_pete said: right.... cause management plays hoops around AHL career players because they are afraid they might get claimed... management maybe wanted to reward him his NHL salary .. you ever think of that? This is laughable. Did you ever think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 3 minutes ago, HKSR said: Abby has 5 wins in 11 games in the month of January. In December they were 8-3 in 11 games. Just throwing that out there. Not sure if a sub .500 winning % is considered doing well lol. Aren’t they 4-4-1-1 so bang on .500? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 4 minutes ago, HKSR said: Abby has 5 wins in 11 games in the month of January. In December they were 8-3 in 11 games. Just throwing that out there. Not sure if a sub .500 winning % is considered doing well lol. They are playing well and their last 5 games have been against the top teams in the AHL and though they only came out with one win, they played very, very well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 Just now, stawns said: You think a goal a game is just "good"? The kids need to be in a winning environment, that's the very best thing for them.......losing pedersen for no reason is a terrible way to manage an important asset. Exactly. They're playing sub .500 hockey right now. Clearly they could use a player that is nearly a goal per game in the AHL. Of course a winning environment doesn't matter in developing prospects... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 1 minute ago, Alflives said: Aren’t they 4-4-1-1 so bang on .500? If that's our standard of a winning environment, no wonder the Canucks have never won anything lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 2 minutes ago, stawns said: They are playing well and their last 5 games have been against the top teams in the AHL and though they only came out with one win, they played very, very well. Not saying they are not playing well... but playing well and still losing saps confidence left and right. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad_BOI_pete Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 1 minute ago, 6of1_halfdozenofother said: No, it's poor asset management. LOL maybe its paying their over performing AHL players... maybe just maybe you treat your AHL players well and next year we can sign a very replaceable player like pederson. this is silly... losing a player on waivers is the cost of doing business... to me it looks like they were trying to give this kid not only his NHL salary but also his AHL salary during the break... They were giving him a nice paycheck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarnBurner Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 16 minutes ago, 6of1_halfdozenofother said: Proper asset management is the sign of a management team that's on top of their game. Losing an asset for nothing is the opposite of proper asset management - in fact, it's why the BoHo trade rumours exist. That this management team has lost an asset for nothing when they had every opportunity to avoid such an outcome is extremely troubling and a sign that someone isn't doing their job. Totally. Another perfect example of a bonehead leading the pack. Something is clearly not aware upstairs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 1 minute ago, HKSR said: If that's our standard of a winning environment, no wonder the Canucks have never won anything lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad_BOI_pete Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 3 minutes ago, stawns said: You think a goal a game is just "good"? The kids need to be in a winning environment, that's the very best thing for them.......losing pedersen for no reason is a terrible way to manage an important asset. an important asset?, get over yourself... next season there will be 200 better players that could be had for free.... and yes... he is just a top line player in the league nothing more... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad_BOI_pete Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 Just now, 6of1_halfdozenofother said: Thanks for telling us that you don't know how to manage without telling us you don't know how to manage. oh really... i have won 23 cups on nhl franchise manager 6,7,8 and 9? what are you accolades? LOL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad_BOI_pete Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 Just now, 6of1_halfdozenofother said: oh... you have nothing to compete... figures... anyways it sounds like you cant fathom how treating your top ahl players with a paycheck is not good management skills... so maybe i should stop arguing with you... 8 points in 55 games and 3.67% shooting percentage... sound the alarm! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarnBurner Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 I will never understand how some continually stir the pot over something that if, was managed properly, would have benefited the organization, for instance, helping strengthen Abby. Instead, there he goes. He was lighting it up on the farm. Again, bonehead management. It could've helped "the organization," if some can't understand that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad_BOI_pete Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 1 minute ago, BarnBurner said: I will never understand how some continually stir the pot over something that if, was managed properly, would have benefited the organization, for instance, helping strengthen Abby. Instead, there he goes. He was lighting it up on the farm. Again, bonehead management. It could've helped "the organization," if some can't understand that. How about helping the player....??? you ever hear of how players have friends and when they get treated well by management. they tell their friends? thats good for the team in the future? maybe you cant understand that paying you AHL players is good for "the organization" Players want to get paid... pay them well and more players will want to sign. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad_BOI_pete Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 4 minutes ago, 6of1_halfdozenofother said: No really, about this fantasy league simulator that you seem to equate to reality. The reality is that, you are upset about something that every team does... 84 other players got waived... if only we were smarter than them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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