mll Posted March 6, 2023 Share Posted March 6, 2023 3 hours ago, eeeeergh said: Also, others dont seem to think it was a joke. During that presser Lamorillo talked of how pleased he is to add a player of that calibre that brings it every night and talks of how he's going to be an asset. As for that specific moment it's at the 1:10 mark. Lamoriello is know for not releasing contract details. Reporter asks him if he can give them the contract details. Instead of simply saying they don't release contract details he answers that all he can tell them is that it's too much term and too much money. Was a pirouette to not give the contract details. Lamoriello doesn't like long term deals but he gets that it's inevitable. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88Canuck Posted March 6, 2023 Share Posted March 6, 2023 Some good insight from good old Frank Corrado… 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eeeeergh Posted March 6, 2023 Share Posted March 6, 2023 6 minutes ago, mll said: During that presser Lamorillo talked of how pleased he is to add a player of that calibre that brings it every night and talks of how he's going to be an asset. As for that specific moment it's at the 1:10 mark. Lamoriello is know for not releasing contract details. Reporter asks him if he can give them the contract details. Instead of simply saying they don't release contract details he answers that all he can tell them is that it's too much term and too much money. Was a pirouette to not give the contract details. Lamoriello doesn't like long term deals but he gets that it's inevitable. Thats pretty reasonable analysis, for sure. I guess we come back in a years time and see how that contract ages. My guess is he continues at his current NYI pace, which is his previous Vancouver pace as well. Which will make him decidedly overpaid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post eeeeergh Posted March 6, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 6, 2023 15 minutes ago, Claiborne55 said: What a Joke...only if you are the one writing history... It was Bo, Islanders 1st and a Canucks 2nd... Nice Try Actually hes right. We traded Bo, we got the islanders 1st, Raty, Beauvillier. We traded the Islanders 1st and our 2nd for Hronek, and a 4th Therefore: We lost Bo, and our 2nd We got: Hronek, Raty, Beauvillier, a 4th 4 1 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jester13 Posted March 6, 2023 Share Posted March 6, 2023 1 hour ago, Claiborne55 said: What a Joke...only if you are the one writing history... It was Bo, Islanders 1st and a Canucks 2nd... Nice Try What are you confused about? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted March 6, 2023 Share Posted March 6, 2023 5 minutes ago, Jester13 said: What are you confused about? Trades 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EB43 Posted March 6, 2023 Share Posted March 6, 2023 10 minutes ago, Jester13 said: What are you confused about? Who ended up with Raymond Ballard and the 2nd though? Someone explain. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronthecivil Posted March 6, 2023 Share Posted March 6, 2023 3 hours ago, CanucksJay said: Yup Kuz has done more with his time on PP than Brock for sure Even when not on the PP, he rang one off the post on his own individual effort. He is definitely a better player than Brock That being said, Brock has picked it up. Not worth the money but much better play than previous. Brock seems to have come alive again and is once again taking shots and trying to drive play. No shock he's been showing up on the score sheet as a result. I have always thought his problems were phycological and could turn it around. If we trade him we might get something back, and that would fix our cap problem (in that we wouldn't have much space at all but at least we would have some). But then were down a Brock Boeser too. But ya, Kuz has replaced him so it does make him expendable. The problem has never really been the forwards though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eeeeergh Posted March 6, 2023 Share Posted March 6, 2023 16 minutes ago, EB43 said: Who ended up with Raymond Ballard and the 2nd though? Someone explain. And who took Kole Lind?! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jester13 Posted March 6, 2023 Share Posted March 6, 2023 21 minutes ago, EB43 said: Who ended up with Raymond Ballard and the 2nd though? Someone explain. I thought it was Raymond, Ballard, and a 1st? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Lasso Posted March 6, 2023 Share Posted March 6, 2023 (edited) Corrado has a great take on this trade: Hronek is a great player He likes good players together, and wants to try him with Hughes this season His contract next year is a steal We have more work to do on the defence, but this is a great move Edited March 6, 2023 by Kenny Powers 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Lasso Posted March 6, 2023 Share Posted March 6, 2023 2 hours ago, eeeeergh said: Actually hes right. We traded Bo, we got the islanders 1st, Raty, Beauvillier. We traded the Islanders 1st and our 2nd for Hronek, and a 4th Therefore: We lost Bo, and our 2nd We got: Hronek, Raty, Beauvillier, a 4th It looks even better when you add the Schenn and Lockwood trades 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Lasso Posted March 6, 2023 Share Posted March 6, 2023 Out: Horvat (with his ridiculous contract demands and quiet leadership style) Schenn Lockwood 2nd (this hurts, and will likely be a good player) 7th In: Hronek (addressed our greatest positional need, great contract, club control) Beauvillier (currently pumping his value, producing ~PPG) Raty (another teams best prospect) Kravtzov (outstanding buy low, high upside trade - instant chemistry with Podz) 3rd 4th opportunity for Hughes & Petey to wear the A We could also be acquiring picks and prospects for 2-3 of our wingers this off-season, so this picture should improve. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray_Cathode Posted March 6, 2023 Share Posted March 6, 2023 (edited) On 3/4/2023 at 4:39 PM, Ray_Cathode said: High picks in the strongest draft in years, for a guy that may well be damaged goods. I have since done more research on Hronek’s situation this season - there is a great, in depth article on The Athletic with regard to Hronek. Turns out that there was more than one issue that occurred about the same time as the massive hit he took, and his massive decline in performance, at that same time he got gifted a pairing with Chiarot - more than enough to crater anyone’s performance. It was the equivalent of pairing anyone on the Canucks with this year’s version of OEL - it was a total disaster. The Athletic article is very detailed in its analysis - they have great,in depth reports - a great deal for two bucks a month. After reading the Athletic article, my view on the trade is entirely changed. This could be a great pickup, and a coup for the Canucks. I now look at the trade this way: we traded Horvat and a second for Beauvillier, Raty, Hronek, and a fourth: we got what looks like a very underrated winger in Beauvillier, a high ranked prospect in Raty, a fourth, and an emerging top four 25 year old RHD that we have coveted for so long. Edited March 6, 2023 by Ray_Cathode 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Lasso Posted March 6, 2023 Share Posted March 6, 2023 For anyone hung up on the NYI 1st, think of Kravtzov (9OA) as your replacement. And Raty (52OA) replaces the 2nd. Both have a full off-season and full training camp with our upgraded development staff, and are more NHL ready than the picks would have been. If we don’t win the lottery, we can possibly draft Reinbacher, who’s now listed as low as 11th in some draft rankings. Then we have our own RHD coming up on an ELC in 2-3 years when we’re more competitive, and to offset Hronek’s next contract Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Lasso Posted March 6, 2023 Share Posted March 6, 2023 4 minutes ago, Ray_Cathode said: I have since done more research on Hronek’s situation this season - there is a great, in depth article on The Athletic with regard to Hronek. Turns out that there was more than one issue that occurred about the same time as the massive hit he took, and his massive decline in performance, at that same time he got gifted a pairing with Chiarot - more than enough to crater anyone’s performance. It was the equivalent of pairing anyone on the Canucks with this year’s version of OEL - it was a total disaster. Then Athletic article is very detailed in its analysis - they have great,in depth reports - a great deal for two bucks a month. Seider played poorly with Chiarot also, so he’s the common denominator What are the other issues with Hronek? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jester13 Posted March 6, 2023 Share Posted March 6, 2023 1 minute ago, Kenny Powers said: Seider played poorly with Chiarot also, so he’s the common denominator What are the other issues with Hronek? I read a lot of Detroit fan comments after the trade, and many agreed that Hronek getting paired with Chiarot tanked his numbers. Since being paired with Maata, he has been having a career season. Many lament his defensive play and turnovers that sound an awful lot like Miller's turnovers (blind behind the back plays). But, considering Tocc took no time at all to get Miller in check, I'm betting Hronek will become an even better player under him, Foote, and Gonchar. We just need to find a solid partner to play with him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herberts Vasiljevs Posted March 6, 2023 Share Posted March 6, 2023 7 hours ago, Mustard Tiger said: Hughes-Livingstone Gavrikov-Hronek Defensive dman- Jacob Bernard-Docker It's not my problem what the Canucks do with Myers or OEL. That's their problem Gavrikov would fit in so nicely next to Hronek. I haven't looked too much into the cap logistics, but I wonder how much an OEL buyout and then a Gavrikov signing would make sense. I like his age at 27 as well. There was a report that the Kings offered him a contract extension immediately after the trade, but he said he wanted to test free agency in the summer. He would be promised a top-4 role here, and he can join the Russian mafia that we have going here! 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Lasso Posted March 6, 2023 Share Posted March 6, 2023 Just now, Jester13 said: I read a lot of Detroit fan comments after the trade, and many agreed that Hronek getting paired with Chiarot tanked his numbers. Since being paired with Maata, he has been having a career season. Many lament his defensive play and turnovers that sound an awful lot like Miller's turnovers (blind behind the back plays). But, considering Tocc took no time at all to get Miller in check, I'm betting Hronek will become an even better player under him, Foote, and Gonchar. We just need to find a solid partner to play with him. Yep, I read that too on HF boards. Hughes (as an experiment) and a healthy OEL should be good options, until we sign #wearegoldstar Gavrikov this off-season, lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray_Cathode Posted March 6, 2023 Share Posted March 6, 2023 1 minute ago, Jester13 said: I read a lot of Detroit fan comments after the trade, and many agreed that Hronek getting paired with Chiarot tanked his numbers. Since being paired with Maata, he has been having a career season. Many lament his defensive play and turnovers that sound an awful lot like Miller's turnovers (blind behind the back plays). But, considering Tocc took no time at all to get Miller in check, I'm betting Hronek will become an even better player under him, Foote, and Gonchar. We just need to find a solid partner to play with him. There is a great article in the Athletic on exactly this issue. If the Reeves hit (which occurred at about the same time as his pairing with Chiarot) was a non-event, then we have got a helluva deal: Horvat and a second For Beauvillier, Hronek, Raty, and a fourth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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