48MPHSlapShot Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 12 minutes ago, Alflives said: We just won back to back games. We dominated a very good Dallas club and then, with no legs, locked it up against a craperolla Hawks’ group and our elite skill won it. And some fans are upset because we are winning. Don’t get it. I choose to look at it with a glass-half-full mentality. We're a better team than was indicated in the first 2/3rds of the season, but because of bad goaltending and the wrong coach we fumbled early on and are going to miss the playoffs as a result, which sucks, BUT because things went so poorly earlier in the season we're now going to get a higher draft pick as a result of it 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coho8888 Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 1 minute ago, 48MPHSlapShot said: Silovs looks good. I would obviously rather he develop for another year in Abby, but he's looked good enough in his games with the parent club that I wouldn't be uncomfortable with him as our backup. That said, in the event that Demko goes down again I wouldn't want him to all of the sudden have to handle the bulk of the games. Demko was left in the minors to cook for a while after he got drafted. I think mgmt will do the same with Silovs. Not sold quite yet on Delia and for sure not Martin. Delia made some nice saves today but some of them were the result of poor rebound control. A better team would have finished them off. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 4 minutes ago, jyu said: This is not what I said. So I stopped reading Rebuilding is, by definition, replacing the core. It’s saying the core we have isn’t good enough to win. That’s exactly what you said. I disagreed with your evaluation of our core. It is good enough to win. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuckfanforlife82 Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 38 minutes ago, Alflives said: Looks more like we are rising to the top. Accept the fact we have a great young core and management is building a strong supporting cast. We will be very good for a very long stretch of seasons. Them is the facts. The top? For this season? I don't think so. That's pretty premature since they have proven year after year they can't even make the playoffs and are usually out by Christmas. Them the facts until they prove otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Crossbar Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 1 minute ago, 48MPHSlapShot said: I choose to look at it with a glass-half-full mentality. We're a better team than was indicated in the first 2/3rds of the season, but because of bad goaltending and the wrong coach we fumbled early on and are going to miss the playoffs as a result, which sucks, BUT because things went so poorly earlier in the season we're now going to get a higher draft pick as a result of it Excellent post! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jyu Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 Just now, Alflives said: All of us are just fans. Of course we don’t make the choices for the club. If we did most of us would have overpaid to keep Bo. Clearly Allvin knew that was a mistake. So he made a fabulous trade. He turned Bo into a great, young #2 right shot D. A young first line winger, and a high end centre prospect. This post is even more puzzling Alf. I never said Horvat trade was bad. It was a great one by Allvin. He started to earn my trust with that move. I would not have paid Horvat 8.5 mil. 7, maybe 7.5 was the max. The thing you have to comprehend is that you can like a player but also like the trade of the said player because ultimately, we care more about the team's success than any single player. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 48MPHSlapShot Posted March 27, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 27, 2023 8 minutes ago, jyu said: Likes of you in the position of power are the reason why we continue to see the same events like wars and financial crises over and over again throughout history instead of learning and making an informed decision to improve our fortunes. I'm glad you are just a fan and not in charge of making any important decisions. What a needlessly cruel and mean spirited way of trying to make your point. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jyu Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 To borrow the words of @-DLC- -- use your words @48MPHSlapShot. Don't hide behind the rough game emoji. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jyu Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 Just now, 48MPHSlapShot said: What a needlessly cruel and mean spirited way of trying to make your point. Sorry if it felt that way. Sometimes it gets a bit overheated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coho8888 Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 3 minutes ago, 48MPHSlapShot said: I choose to look at it with a glass-half-full mentality. We're a better team than was indicated in the first 2/3rds of the season, but because of bad goaltending and the wrong coach we fumbled early on and are going to miss the playoffs as a result, which sucks, BUT because things went so poorly earlier in the season we're now going to get a higher draft pick as a result of it Yep. we could have had a good start and a bad finish putting us out of the playoffs. I will also add that a good start keeping us in the playoff race may not have led to some of the moves that we made which seem positive so far. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jyu Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 3 minutes ago, Alflives said: Rebuilding is, by definition, replacing the core. It’s saying the core we have isn’t good enough to win. That’s exactly what you said. I disagreed with your evaluation of our core. It is good enough to win. To win the cup as it is? I don't think so. But I didn't say we should replace the core. We should add to the core. The core players are great. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 1 minute ago, Canuckfanforlife82 said: The top? For this season? I don't think so. That's pretty premature since they have proven year after year they can't even make the playoffs and are usually out by Christmas. Them the facts until they prove otherwise. Then you’re another fan who would prefer we rebuild. That means trading away our young core, because you believe they’re not good enough, and deep diving to get top five draft picks for as long as it takes to replace them. JR/Allvin don’t think we should do that. They realize this core is good enough to win. They added Hronek by moving Bo. Smart trade. We had three high end enters. Do they turned the lesser of the three into a much needed #2 D, who happens to be right shot. They continue to retool the supporting cast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuckfanforlife82 Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 Just now, Alflives said: Then you’re another fan who would prefer we rebuild. That means trading away our young core, because you believe they’re not good enough, and deep diving to get top five draft picks for as long as it takes to replace them. JR/Allvin don’t think we should do that. They realize this core is good enough to win. They added Hronek by moving Bo. Smart trade. We had three high end enters. Do they turned the lesser of the three into a much needed #2 D, who happens to be right shot. They continue to retool the supporting cast. No. No, and no. Never once did I mention rebuild but we are kidding ourselves if we think we are close to being a contender with this current roster. There still are quite a few holes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
48MPHSlapShot Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 2 minutes ago, coho8888 said: Yep. we could have had a good start and a bad finish putting us out of the playoffs. I will also add that a good start keeping us in the playoff race may not have led to some of the moves that we made which seem positive so far. Indeed. If Demko starts the season on his game and doesn't get hurt, maybe we onto some of those leads we coughed up early, which keeps our head alive water to the point where the previous coaching staff is retained and Bo is resigned. Of course it's all hypothetical, but I truly believe things are headed in the right direction. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
combover Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 (edited) Just another No tank tank season Seems the team shows up in March so we’re slow starters lol. It’s nice to see the smiles on the bench and on the ice some young guys getting ice. less than ten games left in the season just enjoy watching the games before the long summer. Edited March 27, 2023 by combover 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 4 minutes ago, jyu said: To win the cup as it is? I don't think so. But I didn't say we should replace the core. We should add to the core. The core players are great. The core is in place. Hronek was the final piece. We are retooling the supporting cast. Which players are core in your view? Which positions? Define core? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post -DLC- Posted March 27, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 27, 2023 18 minutes ago, jyu said: I'm into statistics, which is making inferences about the future (predicting) from past events. My reference to the past teams' history is to use them as a reference point to understand and analyze what is happening now. Likes of you in the position of power are the reason why we continue to see the same events like wars and financial crises over and over again throughout history instead of learning and making an informed decision to improve our fortunes. I'm glad you are just a fan and not in charge of making any important decisions. I trust Allvin's abilities to improve the roster. Go Canucks! LOL, sure ok. I'm glad you're not making decisions because "statistics" that don't factor in changes, the current situation or the human element really aren't much use at all. I see them every year...predictions. Who's going to win the cup this year? Let's see if you nail this. Based on your "research". Predicting from past events includes players and coaches who are now different from the past You're analyzing THIS group of individuals based on what other individuals did. Coaches with different ways of doing things. LOL...so I'm responsible for war and financial crises (whatever that is...I'm not quite sure. Seems there is some learning to be done here). You expect me to take you seriously when you spew this nonsense? Moving on, not going to play along. 2 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 3 minutes ago, Canuckfanforlife82 said: No. No, and no. Never once did I mention rebuild but we are kidding ourselves if we think we are close to being a contender with this current roster. There still are quite a few holes. But the holes are in the supporting group. It’s a lot easier to fill those roles than to build a core. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuckfanforlife82 Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 Just now, Alflives said: But the holes are in the supporting group. It’s a lot easier to fill those roles than to build a core. I never said anything about the core. Defense is my biggest concern going forward. Specifically right shot dmen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 88Canuck Posted March 27, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 27, 2023 Clearly a few haven’t been told the horse (errr tank) is dead / not realistic! 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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