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Jordan Schroeder Talk

carlweezer

By carlweezer
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DeNiro Canucks Hall-of-Famer

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It's too late, but Landon Ferraro might have been a better choice.

But Marcus Johansson certainly seems to be the better forward that was available. Was he even on the Canucks and Gradin's list?

Landon Ferraro is better? No chance. He couldn't even put up a point a game in the WHL, and had a grand total of 20 points last season in the AHL. He has 1 more point than Schroeder in the same amount of games this season, and Schroeder has more goals.

Ferraro will be a Mason Raymond type player at best.

Johansson was most likely on their list, but they decided they couldn't pass on Schroeder because many scouts had him ranked much higher than 22nd. He doesn't look like a homerun pick yet, but time will tell if he becomes a decent NHLer.

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I think the best comparison to Schroeder right now would be Andrew Cogliano. Both small, 2nd/3rd line centers, with good 2-way ability. Drafted around the same pick (22nd, 25th, respectively), and probably won't quite live up to the hype of being a first round pick.

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Just to give some perspective, Schroeder had 9 points at the 23 game mark last season. He has 14 points at the 23 game mark this season. So there is improvement no matter how slight it may be.

He also went on to put up 25 points in 34 games after the first 23 last season. So look for him to start picking things up now. He's always been a slower starter, ever since he was on the Gophers.

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Just to give some perspective, Schroeder had 9 points at the 23 game mark last season. He has 14 points at the 23 game mark this season. So there is improvement no matter how slight it may be.

He also went on to put up 25 points in 34 games after the first 23 last season. So look for him to start picking things up now. He's always been a slower starter, ever since he was on the Gophers.

An over 50% improvement in points is definitely more than a slight improvement. That goes double for playing on this Wolves team. That is genuinely impressive.

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NHL dream a long time coming for Canucks prospect Jordan Schroeder:

There are two players from the first round of the 2009 NHL Entry Draft who have yet to play a game in the big leagues.

One is Jordan Schroeder.

If it hasn’t been Ryan Kesler or Manny Malhorta in his way, it’s been Cody Hodgson, the lockout, and finally himself.

When the Canucks’ 2011 training camp wrapped up, head coach Alain Vigneault delivered a message to Schroeder, just after the centre lost out to Hodgson for one of the Canucks’ final roster spots.

“His next step is to dominate the American League,” Vigneault said then of Schroeder.

“He has to be a dominant figure there so when people ask who is one of the better two-way offensive players in the American League, his name has to come up. If he intends to play at this level one day, that’s the step he has to make.”

That’s setting an extremely high bar for a team that didn’t seem to have an issue giving opportunities to Billy Sweatt, Mike Duco, Mark Mancari, and Victor Oreskovich (yet again) last year.

In his third season in the minors, Schroeder’s game has evolved. He’s better defensively. He’s more competitive. But what he’s not is dominating.

He has seven goals. There are 76 AHL players who have more. He has seven assists.

There are six players on his own team who have more. One of them is Chris Tanev, who has eight, five more than he’s managed in his 64-game NHL career (playoffs included).

Dominating in the AHL requires help, usually from teammates, and coaching. But Schroeder hasn’t been able to help himself, a point driven home Dec. 1 when Chicago head coach Scott Arniel told Kassian and Schroeder they were going to be healthy scratches, a decision that made headlines in Vancouver.

“Who wouldn’t be pissed off?” Schroeder said. “We were definitely very upset. We want to be in the lineup all the time.

“It was his message. We had to work on some things. Me, specifically, I had been on a roll maybe on the scoresheet but at the same time our line had been out there for some goals against.

“He really wanted to get my focus on the defensive side. It’s not like I wasn’t working hard. It was a positioning type thing. That’s what he was getting across. It’s a learning process.”

Arniel’s message, a pointed one, was a good one. Schroeder is going to have to be better on his side of the ice there if he’s ever going to play for Vigneault for more than it takes to drink a Peppermint latte.

“I watch Brian Gionta, and he’s a smaller guy like me, he’s quick,” Schroeder said. “He’s smart. He puts up good numbers yet he’s responsible defensively.

“You want to try to watch guys who are similar to you. You’re not going to do exactly the same things they do, but if you watch the small things, you’ll see they are great players, they are going to score goals but it’s what they do without the puck that matters.”

Schroeder has shown improvement since the benching. His team has too, winning four of five heading into the Wednesday morning game in Chicago against the Abbotsford Heat.

It’s an encouraging sign but at some point, the Canucks are going to have to stop giving Schroeder the stick, and hand him a carrot.

Back in the heady days of summer when most people predicted there would be an NHL season, maybe even one that started in October, Schroeder appeared to be chasing one of those orange veggies.

Hodgson was long gone, and Kesler was once again rehabbing from offseason surgery. There appeared to be light at the end of Schroeder’s dark AHL tunnel.

For once, his window of opportunity appeared more open than the width of a dime. He had designs to take full advantage of it too. He was one of the first players to arrive in Vancouver to start skating in August.

But it didn’t take long for reality to set in, as Gary Bettman and his lockout pulled the rug out from under Schroeder like the centre was on a cop on an HBO series and trying to investigate Dexter.

“It would have been nice to get that chance in training camp,” Schroeder said, sighing with frustration. “But that’s the way it goes sometimes, you don’t get your break.

“I try to just put it aside. Obviously, I wanted to give it a shot.”

It was a massive letdown.

He’s not banking on that chance now, not even if there is a season. The Canucks aren’t sure Schroeder will get a call if training camp ever begins. It will be short, maybe 10 days with two exhibition games, if any. There won’t be much time for Vigneault to show increased patience when an inexperienced player who has the tendency to commit some mistakes.

Making things more complicated, the team may still acquire a centre in the inevitable Roberto Luongo trade to fill the hole they have at third-line centre.

That would be just one more obstacle for Schroeder. Add it to the list.

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