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#1 zombieksa


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Posted 27 September 2012 - 10:09 PM

This trade is under the assumption that a 1st round pick and winger/prospects come back in a Lu trade*

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To Van:

Why NJ does this:
-NJ has the 27th ranked prospect pool in the NHL and just lost their captain and with it a lot of LW depth (a position Vancouver has plenty of.)
-Raymond is an affordable left winger for a financially struggling team who can pot in 20+ goals a season.
- Schroeder is one of Vancouver's better prospects and arguably our best center prospect. (to replace Henrique)
- With 2 aging goalies set to play the next 2 seasons before retirement, the acquisition of Lack is perfect timing as he has just enough time to grow into their next starting goaltender.
- a 1st in a very deep prospect pool

Why Vancouver does this:
Henrique is a fantastic center man who can both play in Kesler's place as well as handle 3rd line duties, eventually becoming a star player for the team when Henrik is retired.
Wedgewood, although not a primed as Lack for a starting position is slowly making his case for an NHL job, Signing the likes of Ellis for 2 years should give Wedgewood enough time to become a backup for Corey.

So in Conclusion
Henrique = Lack, Schroeder, 1st
Wedgewood, 4th = Raymond

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Posted 27 September 2012 - 10:12 PM

They would want way more than that for just Henrique.

They would want Edler+ or Schneider+

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Posted 27 September 2012 - 10:13 PM

Can't really see NJ doing it.
Henrique has all the makings to be a phenomenal 2-way forward in the NHL, I can't see them wanting to part ways with him.


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Posted 27 September 2012 - 10:13 PM

Edit: Failed to mention that NJD have to give up a 1st round pick in the next 2 years so getting one back in the process is also beneficial.
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Posted 27 September 2012 - 10:17 PM

So lemme get this straight. In order for NJ to improve on their 27th ranked prospect pool, they are to trade away their best young star who was great for them in the regular season and even better for them during the playoffs scoring 3 GWGs to get back a pending UFA and 2 guys who's never played a game in the NHL? Yah, great deal for NJ.

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Posted 27 September 2012 - 10:18 PM

They would want way more than that for just Henrique.

They would want Edler+ or Schneider+

On Schneider - That boat sailed the moment they signed Marty and Hedberg to two year NTC deals, they know Schneider is a starter now, so positioning themselves with a prime goalie prospect who looks almost ready for NHL action is a more realistic scenario for the franchise.

On Edler - NJ may not have a great prospect pool, but the one area they are strong in is defense. I could see them going after Booth as he is signed for a few more years though.
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Posted 27 September 2012 - 11:03 PM

It would take a lot more than that to get Henrique.



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Posted 27 September 2012 - 11:53 PM

Yeah as much as I like him Adam's not going to get traded anytime soon, he could very well join w/ Zajac and Kovalchuk (Clarkson too?) up front to form the Devils' new core. Of course, with all their financial issues and multiple free agents next season they may not sign everyone but I think Adam would be one of if not the first guy to get re-signed. If not then just offer sheet that cash-strapped team, or sign Elias if he's not retained.

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 12:14 AM

Henrique is their future up front, he's not going anywhere plain and simple.

For what you offered : Lack, Schroeder, 1st, Raymond

I would ask for : Jon Merrill, Stefan Matteau, Scott Wedgewood , and (maybe) a 3rd/4th

New Jersey gets the NHL ready goalie they need when Brodeur calls it quits ( Wedgewood is much farther away than Lack), they get offensive help for relatively cheap in Schroeder and Raymond after the Parise departure, and they get back a first round pick they lost in the Kovalchuk mishap. They do all of this without losing Larsson or Henrique which makes it more of a realistic deal.

Vancouver does this to solidify depth at every position while aquiring players that fit all their current needs. Jon Merrill is 6'3 210 pounds with both skill and a mean streak . Stefan Matteau is 6'2 210 pounds, and can basically be described the same as Jon Merrill except as a forward. Gaunce/Matteau would be a hell of a combo at center ice moving forward. Wedgewood fills the hole of trading Lack, with hope that he can develope the same as Lack has.

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 06:32 AM

Booth and 2nd for Clarkson would satisfy just about everybody on CDC.

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 08:14 AM

Henrique is pretty much an untouchable. I would want it to be




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Posted 28 September 2012 - 01:57 PM

It's a bit of gamble for new jersey but if they have the balls to pull the trigger it could really pay off.. Henrique is no doubt the best player in the deal but they get 3 guys that have the potential to be very good players (taking the 1st into account). As frustrating as it is to watch him sometimes I still think under a new coach in the east Raymond could really turn things around and be a consistent 50 point player. Lack could very well be a star goalie too

If I was new jersey it would be hard to part with a stud like henrique. If times were better and the devils werent struggling financially so recently I would probably pull the trigger. I don't know their exact financial situation now after the cup run but I think losing a young star might make it harder to keep filling those seats and building on that playoff success

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 02:25 PM

Henrique is the future of the Devils. He's not going anywhere.

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 04:28 PM

Henrique isn't leaving New Jersey. Not for that.


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Posted 28 September 2012 - 04:38 PM

The Devils will not trade Henrique for a couple of reasons:

1) Travis Zajac is a pending UFA after this season (if there is one)
2) New Jersey has no real replacement for Henrique as the second line center, unless Josefson is more than ready for top six minutes

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Posted 01 October 2012 - 12:18 PM

even if we get a first rounder and/or prospects for luongo, dealing lack at this point is a huge mistake, it causes a huge hole at the back up position, especially as, in my books, wedgewood isnt ready for full time back up duty.

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