Goalscorer Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 To play in the NHL you need to be tough, whether it be mental or physical. What I worry about for this team is the mix. The past two cup champs had a nice mix of skill and size throughout their lineup. When it comes to playoff hockey and the opposition views you as mentally or physically not up to the challenge, they will try to take advantage of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis15 Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 #signsthelockoutisover Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hockeywoot Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 Are we tough enough to win the cup? Yes. Could we stand to be tougher? Sure. We lost to LA because their defence was excellent. All playoffs they were clinical defensively. We cracked before they did. Back to toughness.... Ideally we'd have one more tough, big body in the top 6. The Sedins are tough, but are NOT physical nor agressive. An imposing presence to compensate would be excellent. But finding such a player is easier said than done. If Kassian is ready for a top-6 role, that'd be brilliant. But rest assured AV, is not going to put him there if he ain't ready for a top-6 role. Also, if we had a real bruiser, tough customer, crease clearing d-man (think Engelland), that'd be ideal. Vandemeer is step in the right direction. Alberts is so so. Neither are skilled enough to be in the regular line up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwnstar Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 We made it to game 7 SCF we have a core that can win Relax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaBestPlaceOnEarth Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 Sure, we're good. It wasn't toughness that was problematic against Boston, it was size, they wore us out over the seven games. Anyways that was years ago already, it's in the past. Between Volpatti, Wiese, Kassian, Lapierre, Bieksa and Alberts I think we are just fine toughness-wise. We could stand to be bigger on the bottom pairing, Ballard and Tanev aren't exactly the Matt Carkner types some teams have there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowest common denominator Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 We have gotten a bit toougher and nastier on the backend but up front it is same old same old. Kassian might have the potential, we are about to find out. The guys in the locker room all know that team toughness has been an issue (Hamhuis stated it) and I bet we see the Canucks more feisty and willing to stand up for each other this year. We'll need another big hard hitting forward to go anywhere in the playoffs, though. Bringing Cloutier back adds to the toughness also, he doesn't have anything to teach Schneids or Lu except how to put up your dukes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucklehead44 Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 Vandermeer and Kassian are two tough customers. Booth was also a nice addition in the physicality department, although he won't go around beating people up he is great at powering his way to the net and can throw his body around. Hopefully Volpatti stays healthy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil_314 Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 The more important question should be are they deep enough up front to consistently win games and burn their undisciplined opponents on the PP? I'm not sure I'd trust Ebbett in his ability to consistently do that once the Twins get off the ice from the PP (unless they play the full two minutes? ) Hopefully Raymond proves that his play during scrimmages weren't a fluke! Barker, Vandermeer, Garrison are plenty tough in terms of having goons and if Kassian could stick and really become the space-creating power forward we'd be okay. Au contraire, without Kes and Booth the team is both thin up front physically and in terms of skill. Replacing them while their out should be objective #1, not toughness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casofilia.canuck.nz Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 We will have to be!! The only thing to really worry about is; " you can only score with shots on goal". Then to score more than the opposition. Go Canucks Go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grapefruits Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 We made it to game 7 SCF we have a core that can win Relax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surtur Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 Vandermeer, Kassian, Booth, Beiksa, Lappy, Garrison, Volpatti and even Ballard, plus hard hits from Edler i think we are pretty tough.. not full of goons tough but can hold our own. Plus with Some tough guys in the system i think we are fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 Try to keep up with the changes Canouver. Haven't you heard? Lapierre is a gawdamn hulking beast of a manhandler now. Kassian exudes alpha masculinity. Jim Vandermeer is the kinda guy who makes grown men feel safe. The Sedins have been secretly training with ninjutsu warriors. And Mike Gillis is cooking up a nice little deal to make Chris Neil a Canuck. Just by osmosis my adrenals are feeling much much less stressed. Hope that helps you feel a little better as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bodee Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 LA beat them up??? im pretty sure your confusing beat , with beat up , boston forsure beat us up but la just scored goals , terrible thread , will not return Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canouver Posted January 19, 2013 Author Share Posted January 19, 2013 Try to keep up with the changes Canouver. Haven't you heard? Lapierre is a gawdamn hulking beast of a manhandler now. Kassian exudes alpha masculinity. Jim Vandermeer is the kinda guy who makes grown men feel safe. The Sedins have been secretly training with ninjutsu warriors. And Mike Gillis is cooking up a nice little deal to make Chris Neil a Canuck. Just by osmosis my adrenals are feeling much much less stressed. Hope that helps you feel a little better as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King of the ES Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 Zack Kassian can help in this situation, as he would drop the gloves with a Marchand or Bolland as soon as they got out of hand, and of course he could then handle the reprocussions of someone like Lucic or Ladd coming back after him. I just hope the canucks don't completely destroy what he has and turn the pittbull in him into a crapzu. They need to just accept what he is and not push the whole vegan/yoga/hippy/weightloss/super discipline/no fighting Vancouver philosophy on him. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 Kassian was in the lineup when Keith cheap-shotted Sedin, was he not? Not much of a deterrent, nor did he respond. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Kneel Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 Duncan Kieth's dirty elbow was the major blow to our LA series,what if any answers there are with our team toughness begins with protecting our star players. Heading into the season as a one line team I expect more of the same especially in the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCammer Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 Maybe we should just surrender and pack it in. Could they play a couple of games before we start whining about toughness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WL Canuck Fan Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 LOL at people using that argument. That is only ONE team with that kind of softness winning them cups. We are still incredibly soft but I am happy that at least we have 3 legitimately capable fighters in Patti, Vandermeer and Kassian. And NO Lapierre, Weise and Bieksa are not established fighters. Weise, with plenty of evidence, is a punching bag against anyone with skill in that department. Lappy strictly takes on completely non fighters and Bieksa reeaaaaallly picks his spots, has some skill but in no way can take on the heavies. The top 6 is the problem, and has been for years, no grit.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lui's Knob Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 The question is are they skilled enough? Top end talent? I say not compared to the blues wild hawks kings and sharks even the oilers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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