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#31 mazdaspeed3

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 12:58 AM

My view is that Iginla would be fired up in the playoffs with any chance to win a cup. The last few years Iginla has been slow starting the season, this year is no different and I think his game will pick up by mid season.

The problem is with his cap hit of 7 Mill, it would be tough to make room, I also know that we will have cap troubles next year and will have to dump salary. With the way Ballard is playing I really don't think it should be him going.

My suggestion, offer up Booth straight up for Iginla. Calgary gets a replacement winger thats under contract for a few years and we rid ourself of his cap hit. Booth has been absolutely useless for us when he's healthy, which isn't nearly often enough.

We get a guy that will help us tremendously in the playoffs, Calgary gets something tangible.
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Posted 11 February 2013 - 12:58 AM

They can try but they wont
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Posted 11 February 2013 - 12:59 AM

I know what all of you are thinking - no way on earth is this going to happen, why would Calgary part ways with their franchise leader - especially to perhaps their biggest rival - and why would Iginla come?

Fact is though, Iginla has only one year remaining on his contract - he likely will re-sign with Calgary if he chooses to continue playing (at 37 years of age). Trouble is, they're in no shape to win a Stanley Cup this year and unless an off-season miracle happens, they're in no shape to win next year either. It'll be safe to assume that Iginla won't win a Cup if he stays in Calgary.

As things are for Canucks, Kesler's return could help give an offensive spark - but it may not be quite enough to get over the hump. The Sedins have always been silenced in the playoffs when playing a physical opponent, and there is little guarantee Kesler can make up for their loss - if he can show up un-injured.

With this trade, the Flames could get something in return (like a first-rounder) and could re-acquire their captain in the offseason. The Nucks, meanwhile, can get perhaps one of the game's all-time greatest clutch performers to help wake up the Sedins during the playoffs. Put him on Henrik's right wing and he'll help open up space so they can get to the net unhindered by the Bollands and Marchants. That'll lead to increased post-season offense, which could make all the difference to getting the Cup.

Everyone in question wants to win. The Canucks want to win. Iginla (and the Flames) want to win, but all parties can't have everything at once. Someone has to make a sacrifice, and if I were a Flames fan, I would willingly part with Iginla just to see him get a ring if that's the only option.


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Posted 11 February 2013 - 01:15 AM

I don't think this trade is meant for our team. This trade would require an overpayment/underpayment sorta thing. We'd need to send at least 3.5 mil in salaries to calgary.

I think Calg's expecting a top six forward, a top tier prospect, and a mid round pick, which is a lot.

I don't think giving up something like Booth + Jensen/Schroeder/Kassian/Lack + a fourth makes too much sense for us.

This trade isn't meant for us seeing as we have a low prospect pool to just get rid of one.
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Posted 11 February 2013 - 01:35 AM

Sometimes I see flashes of brilliance in him, other times, he just looks over & done-with! But perhaps all he needs is a change of scenery...

Edited by kmotamed, 11 February 2013 - 01:36 AM.

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 01:40 AM

Say Ballard continues to play like a top 4 D man, I know this may sound like an overpayment but

To Vancouver: Jarome Iginla

To Calgary: Keith Ballard, Brendan Gaunce, 2013 1st
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In my eyes drouin is overrated he can score in the qmjhl but did nothing in last two gold medal games that canada lost. Fox will be better pro than him talk to me in five yrs

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 02:11 AM

That's because it is an overpayment. A slightly overpaid defenceman who's worth 75% of his contract, a near for sure 3rd line checking center, who can become a top six player if he picks up his speed, and a first round pick in a deep draft.

really sucks to say, but we don't have the assets to give ; maybe a prospect filled organization would suit him.

unless feaster goes full retard and takes an offer of booth + some depth fwd + a first.

then we'll party.
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Posted 11 February 2013 - 03:34 AM

unless feaster goes full retard and takes an offer of booth + some depth fwd + a first.


Gillis would be full retard to accept even that. People like to rip on Booth here, but he's a hell of a hockey player when he's healthy and brings a nice mix of speed and grit. Giving Calgary a first rounder is an awful idea no matter what.
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Posted 11 February 2013 - 04:03 AM

Say Ballard continues to play like a top 4 D man, I know this may sound like an overpayment but

To Vancouver: Jarome Iginla

To Calgary: Keith Ballard, Brendan Gaunce, 2013 1st



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Edited by rb4u, 11 February 2013 - 04:04 AM.

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 08:32 AM

Remember we'd be trading for Iginla 2013, not Iginla 2005.

The guy is barely a factor on a crappy team these days.
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Posted 11 February 2013 - 08:36 AM

Three words. New York Rangers.



yup, he told me directly it was NYR was 1st choice to finish his career if it had to be somewhere beside Calgary,
and no, highly doubt he's coming to Vancouver, he hates some of the players and will never come here unless he has done a complete 180.
as of 2 years ago when i asked him he said he hated the Canucks.
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Posted 11 February 2013 - 08:52 AM

Remember we'd be trading for Iginla 2013, not Iginla 2005.

The guy is barely a factor on a crappy team these days.


The guy who has scored 30 goals for the last 1000 seasons?

He always starts slow, but ends up with 30 goals. Anyone who thinks trading for Iginla is a bad idea because Iginla's past it is a moron. He may look average right now but keep in mind the best player hes ever played with in his career is alex tanguay. If Iginla was one the right wing with the Sedins it would be the best line in hockey. Im not saying hes as good as 05 but i think what he has in 2013 would be the best edition the canucks could hope for, size/grit, he fights, he has one of the best snap shots/ one timers in the game. AND most importantly, hes a clucth big game player. Has assisted two Gold medal wining goals.

The reason this trade is a bad idea is because it cant happen. Apart from mentioning salarys/cap or any of that, the simple fact that we are the flames biggest rival means he wouldnt come here. Regardless of where/if he goes as a rental player, he will still move back and retire/live in Calgary. He would not go help the flames biggest rival win a cup.

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 08:56 AM

Its the "idea" of adding Iginla that is interesting, but really guys, IF Calgary trades him, it sure as hell wont be to a divisional rival.

It'll likley be to Pittsburgh. They have way more of a need for a winger than we do, and have some young peices (Harrington, Despres, Tangradi...) that they could part with. Even if Iggy and Flames management would go the Vancouver route, I highly doubt Gillis would give up any young asset in an organization thats focused on building their system.

Edited by 70seven, 11 February 2013 - 08:57 AM.

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 10:35 AM

An option that may potentially be better for us is having MG re-visit/inquire of the availability of Shane Doan...looks like the Jamison ownership has fallen through, so Doan may be available and may be willing to waive his NTC. If doable, it would be great to see a trade that brings Doan to us for David Booth and a prospect package of Rodin and Connauton.

Phoenix has a good group of young Euros, including Korpikoski and Ekman-Larsson, so Rodin might be a good complement for them; and in spite of their backend is still pretty young with Morris and Michalek being the only ones over 30, Connauton probably has a better shot at cracking the Coyotes roster than ours in the near term future. In Booth, they are getting a guy who, perhaps could be described as a younger, "Doan-light" (i.e., prorated over 82 game schedule, similar, albeit lower numbers over the past 3 years; 10 lbs. lighter; more prone to injury than Doan -- but who isnt'? --...and both are men of faith, though you don't hear a lot of PTL from Doan as you do with Booth).

We'd be taking on more cap hit with Doan (vs. Booth), but that could be off-set by guys like Jensen stepping and taking a roster spot on an ETL contract.

Other options packaged with Booth to consider in a trade if the Coyotes aren't looking for prospects:

-Ballard
-Raymond

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 10:39 AM

An option that may potentially be better for us is having MG re-visit/inquire of the availability of Shane Doan...looks like the Jamison ownership has fallen through, so Doan may be available and may be willing to waive his NTC. If doable, it would be great to see a trade that brings Doan to us for David Booth and a prospect package of Rodin and Connauton.

Phoenix has a good group of young Euros, including Korpikoski and Ekman-Larsson, so Rodin might be a good complement for them; and in spite of their backend is still pretty young with Morris and Michalek being the only ones over 30, Connauton probably has a better shot at cracking the Coyotes roster than ours in the near term future. In Booth, they are getting a guy who, perhaps could be described as a younger, "Doan-light" (i.e., prorated over 82 game schedule, similar, albeit lower numbers over the past 3 years; 10 lbs. lighter; more prone to injury than Doan -- but who isnt'? --...and both are men of faith, though you don't hear a lot of PTL from Doan as you do with Booth).

We'd be taking on more cap hit with Doan (vs. Booth), but that could be off-set by guys like Jensen stepping and taking a roster spot on an ETL contract.

Other options packaged with Booth to consider in a trade if the Coyotes aren't looking for prospects:

-Ballard (sort of a homecoming for him)
-Raymond (probably would be really good with Antoine Vermette)


EDIT: Meant to do an edit, but my fat knobby fingers hit the quote key...sorry for wasting dataspace.

Edited by disisdayear, 11 February 2013 - 10:41 AM.

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 12:10 PM

won't happen... then the flames will have kiprussof and luongo.... or shneider... and no way will the flames trade iggy to us no way.... although i wouldn't mind seeing iggy play here...
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Posted 11 February 2013 - 12:12 PM

things are going good right now... ballard and raymond stepped up for us and are playing great... kinda need that in guys when the team has holes to fill....
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Posted 11 February 2013 - 12:16 PM

Say Ballard continues to play like a top 4 D man, I know this may sound like an overpayment but

To Vancouver: Jarome Iginla

To Calgary: Keith Ballard, Brendan Gaunce, 2013 1st

Noway we give up Gaunce
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Posted 11 February 2013 - 12:26 PM

Jarome for Booth or Raymond is the absolute most I would pay .. he is almost ineffective, does little work and feeds off his linemates getting him the puck .. when they do not feed him, he does not score .. like so far this season ..
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Posted 11 February 2013 - 12:40 PM

The only way I see it happening is Calgary accepts a 5th/6th and 7th rounder, Connauton, Rodin, Beattie, and Honzik in trade.

And that ain't happening.
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Posted 11 February 2013 - 12:48 PM

The asking price would probably be Jensen or Kassian+

Something I want no part of, especially since Kassian has been playing better than Iginla, and since we got a gem in Jensen.


this is my thinking too..........what may be intreting is when the swedish season ends...jensen comes and plays here/wolves...may be the sniper that we desperatly need.......although iginla would be a great playoff addition...clutch and playoff prroven......but cap cost and trade cost makes him unlikely
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Posted 11 February 2013 - 02:36 PM

IF Iginla is traded. It will NOT be to a division rival.

It will most likely be to a team out east, or if the offer is extremely good, stay in the west.

I can't see the Lames taking anything from anybody in this division unless it's some of the following;

Colarado - Landeskog/Duchene would have to be involved
Minnesota - Granlund would be a go to
Edmonton - Pretty much any of their plethora of up front talent
Vancouver - Kassian/Goalie/Tanev or something.

Honestly out of the 29 teams that would want to acquire him, Vancouver probably has the lowest chance.
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Posted 11 February 2013 - 02:56 PM

There are teams that would and could offer far more than the Canucks and the price for a team within the same division let alone conference to acquire him would be extremely high so I don't see it happening at all.
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Posted 11 February 2013 - 03:03 PM

Don't want that washed up bum near my team, gimme a break, look at how easily he get shoved off the puck nowadays, he's done, his time is coming to an end in the NHL. Canucks can get so much more value back in a Luongo trade than that, once a flame always a flame.


Wow, he's a washed up bum? You realize he scored over 30 goals last year still, right? You realize he has 6 pts in 9 games right now? How in any way, shape, or form is that washed up? And he gets shoved off the puck easily? LOL. It's Jarome Iginla dude, he doesn't get shoved off the puck easily. I dare you to find me some clips of him getting shoved off the puck easily from this year, because I'm pretty sure you're talking out of your ass.

I understand you dislike Calgary being a Canucks fan, but take off the bloody homer glasses for once when evaluating other players. That "bum" also set up the golden goal in the last Olympics for team CANADA. Show a little respect.
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Posted 11 February 2013 - 03:06 PM

I'd love to have Jarome Iginla on the Canucks. You can never have too many 30-40 goal scoring power forwards. Like others have said here though, I don't see it happening. Teams rarely trade to division rivals, and the asking price would probably be pretty steep. That being said, if through some freak series of events he does lace up for us, that'd be sweet.

And by the way, yes Iginla is getting old and slowing down a bit, but look at the teams he scored all those goals on. Who did he have to play with? Imagine his offensive production if he was playing with a centerman of Henrik or Kesler's caliber. I definitely think Iginla would be scoring at a 40 goal pace again with those guys.

Edited by Moonshinefe, 11 February 2013 - 03:08 PM.

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 03:09 PM

Don't want that washed up bum near my team, gimme a break, look at how easily he get shoved off the puck nowadays, he's done, his time is coming to an end in the NHL. Canucks can get so much more value back in a Luongo trade than that, once a flame always a flame.


I don't think he's a bum, nor do I think he's washed up, but he sure is not what he once was. In any event, I'd rather give the ice-time he would have taken to develop Kassian.
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Posted 11 February 2013 - 04:08 PM

Say Ballard continues to play like a top 4 D man, I know this may sound like an overpayment but

To Vancouver: Jarome Iginla

To Calgary: Keith Ballard, Brendan Gaunce, 2013 1st


A top 4 D man, and 2 firsts for Jarome Iginla as a rental.

WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT
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Posted 11 February 2013 - 04:23 PM

Iggy has long been one of my favourite players. However, I think the Flames really made a big mistake in not trading him earlier. He has really lost a step, and if the Flames ever decide to rebuild, what they get back for Iginla will be nowhere near what they could have got 2-3 years ago.
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Posted 11 February 2013 - 04:24 PM

If Iginla comes to Vancouver, he'll be a solid second line winger?
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Posted 11 February 2013 - 05:33 PM

Everyone is missing the whole point of the deal. So what if Canucks gives up something that helps the Flames make the playoffs in the future if it means they can get that first Cup now?

But I do agree with you guys on one thing: the Flames would be loathe to part ways with Iginla, especially to the Canucks. However, all things considered, Iginla has little other option to get a Cup. Canucks are far and away his best hope.

Keep in mind, Iginla still has been one of the most consistent scorers of the decade and perhaps one of the most clutch performers of all time. There's no reason to believe that pairing him with elite playmakers like the Sedins can help him revive - and they'll need him to get past the hump.

Keep in mind too, Iginla's on the last year of his contract, so the Flames cannot ask too high a price if they did make a trade. A 30th overall pick is a small price to pay for someone who can get you a Cup this season.

Just saying though, the team as-is is in no shape to win the Cup. Sedins need a big clutch power forward to get them over the hump.
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