Rey Posted March 29, 2013 Share Posted March 29, 2013 I'd do Frattin and a 2nd. Colbourne and a 2nd I would be a bit more reluctant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ice orca Posted March 29, 2013 Share Posted March 29, 2013 So by the sounds of it mg is giving away an elite goalie with a fantastic cap hit away for a third liner at best, a prospect that will never play in the NHL and a 2nd round pick that he'll ultimately use on a terrible prospect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thad Posted March 29, 2013 Share Posted March 29, 2013 So by the sounds of it mg is giving away an elite goalie with a fantastic cap hit away for a third liner at best, a prospect that will never play in the NHL and a 2nd round pick that he'll ultimately use on a terrible prospect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sampy Posted March 29, 2013 Share Posted March 29, 2013 I believe Taj got this from Botchford's article Taj44 "TO offering 2nd round pick and C prospect.. Canucks want Bozak, B prospect and pick. Deal is there if they can put egos aside. Big IF though" Any idea's who the C prospect is and any idea who a B prospect could be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thad Posted March 29, 2013 Share Posted March 29, 2013 If this is true, I hope MG sends Lu to Florida. I'd rather Florida garbage and watch the Leafs tank again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucks_Hockey_101 Posted March 29, 2013 Share Posted March 29, 2013 Toronto's out to lunch. Lowball offers trying to cash in wont cut it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted March 29, 2013 Share Posted March 29, 2013 If the Canucks were going to give Luongo away, it sure as hell would not be to the Toronto M Laffs - and it sure as hell would not be before the offseason. A giveaway would be to Florida in the summer - and then watch the Laffs suck on that when a healthy, young Panthers team leapfrogs them in short order next season. I hope the Leafs decide to stay put. They are a much worse team than their blowhard media think they are. Have a look at their underlying numbers. http://www.behindthe... 34 45 46 63 67 Not a single Leaf who has a + corsi on. One regular has had over 50% ozone starts. They are still a horrible team in terms of puck possession and territory, and they have both a young blueline and young goaltending. What that spells is inevitable pressure on their backend. . They've had good coaching and have been opportune - with misleading, overachieving results. I doubt Randy Carlyle looks at his team and thinks he has a realistic contending team. Imo he calls it a work in progress for good reason - I doubt that's just modesty. If they want to pretend that they don't have the assets or are not prepared to cut a sensible deal, let them suck on the underlying writing on the wall. It's a short, oddball season. It would be very interesting to see this team try to stand up to an 82 game schedule. The reality tends to hit home after midway of a real season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Get real canuck fans Posted March 29, 2013 Share Posted March 29, 2013 So by the sounds of it mg is trading giving away a FORMER elite goalie with a fantastic cap hit away for a third liner at best, a prospect that will may never play in the NHL and a 2nd round pick that he'll ultimately use on a terrible prospect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neversummer Posted March 29, 2013 Share Posted March 29, 2013 @DarrenDreger: Sources say Vancouver reached out to Toronto this week to revisit Loungo talks.Flames hoping for a better read on Kipper's future this wknd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonny_Bohonos_14 Posted March 29, 2013 Share Posted March 29, 2013 @FarhanLaljiTSN: #Luongo re Leaf talk, says he hasn't spoken to Gillis about anything in quite some time. @FarhanLaljiTSN: #Luongo compares his situation to Iginla's. Knows he won't be getting blindsided, "Its been a long time coming" #canucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thad Posted March 29, 2013 Share Posted March 29, 2013 Now MG is the one grovelling and bending over ... TO doesn't need Luongo to get into the playoffs, they'll make it at the rate they are going. Remember, TO needs to do is make it in to consider this season a success. Whereas for us ... we need to win the Cup. Luongo isn't going anywhere before the trade deadline. Bank on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted March 29, 2013 Share Posted March 29, 2013 Don't give Lu away for a pending UFA. We can get a third line center through a separate trade. If we can't get any roster players that help us, then just get better prospects. And we can use Luongo's cap space to fill in holes through other trades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted March 29, 2013 Share Posted March 29, 2013 The Islanders make more sense than the Leafs - let the Leafs ride Reimer or go after Kipprusoff. Long Island has no goaltender going forward - Dipietro is buyout contender #1, and buried, no one expects the cap circumvention Thomas to actually show up in NY, and Nabokov is a 37 year old UFA. The Isles have only 28 million in cap committed next year (even with their buried giants), and they have an exceptionally young blueline when you consider the two veteran UFAs they haven't managed to re-sign. Nabokov is an ideal rental backup who expires, making room for (currently injured) Lack next season and moving him makes good sense to both sides. The Isles have a great deal of young depth at center - I really like Cizikas as a young, affordable RFA 3C. They could use and can afford a veteran blueliner - in fact, they'll have to spend this summer. And they're poised right now to snatch a playoff berth if they finish strong. Luo, Ballard, roster spot. Nabokov(UFA), Streit (UFA), Cizikas, Nelson/1st. If they want a veteran C, we can add Ebbett to that deal, and they essentially don't lose a single roster player in this deal. The Canucks coud then go out and add a Boyd Gordon or whomever to supplement the depth at C, for not a significant cost. If anyone can afford to move a C prospect like Nelson (or a 1st), it's the Islanders (or Florida), and their 1st at the moment is looking like a mid round pick, not a top 5 as usual. It would also be sweet to troll the Leafs and call all their bluffs by cutting a reasonable compromise like this with someone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Killer Posted March 29, 2013 Share Posted March 29, 2013 The Islanders make more sense than the Leafs - let the Leafs ride Reimer or go after Kipprusoff. Long Island has no goaltender going forward - Dipietro is buyout contender #1, and buried, no one expects the cap circumvention Thomas to actually show up in NY, and Nabokov is a 37 year old UFA. The Isles have only 28 million in cap committed next year (even with their buried giants), and they have an exceptionally young blueline when you consider the two veteran UFAs they haven't managed to re-sign. Nabokov is an ideal rental backup who expires, making room for (currently injured) Lack next season and moving him makes good sense to both sides. The Isles have a great deal of young depth at center - I really like Cizikas as a young, affordable RFA 3C. They could use and can afford a veteran blueliner - in fact, they'll have to spend this summer. Luo, Ballard, roster spot. Nabokov(UFA), Streit (UFA), Cizikas, Nelson/1st. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apollo Posted March 29, 2013 Share Posted March 29, 2013 those 1st round picks are gonna be like gold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UFCanuck Posted March 29, 2013 Share Posted March 29, 2013 Media is trying to hype up trade deadline day. Luongo is most likely going to stay for the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted March 29, 2013 Share Posted March 29, 2013 Not if mg is deciding them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thad Posted March 29, 2013 Share Posted March 29, 2013 Don't give Lu away for a pending UFA. We can get a third line center through a separate trade. If we can't get any roster players that help us, then just get better prospects. And we can use Luongo's cap space to fill in holes through other trades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted March 29, 2013 Share Posted March 29, 2013 The Islanders make more sense than the Leafs - let the Leafs ride Reimer or go after Kipprusoff. Long Island has no goaltender going forward - Dipietro is buyout contender #1, and buried, no one expects the cap circumvention Thomas to actually show up in NY, and Nabokov is a 37 year old UFA. The Isles have only 28 million in cap committed next year (even with their buried giants), and they have an exceptionally young blueline when you consider the two veteran UFAs they haven't managed to re-sign. Nabokov is an ideal rental backup who expires, making room for (currently injured) Lack next season and moving him makes good sense to both sides. The Isles have a great deal of young depth at center - I really like Cizikas as a young, affordable RFA 3C. They could use and can afford a veteran blueliner - in fact, they'll have to spend this summer. And they're poised right now to snatch a playoff berth if they finish strong. Luo, Ballard, roster spot. Nabokov(UFA), Streit (UFA), Cizikas, Nelson/1st. If they want a veteran C, we can add Ebbett to that deal, and they essentially don't lose a single roster player in this deal. The Canucks coud then go out and add a Boyd Gordon or whomever to supplement the depth at C, for not a significant cost. If anyone can afford to move a C prospect like Nelson (or a 1st), it's the Islanders (or Florida), and their 1st at the moment is looking like a mid round pick, not a top 5 as usual. It would also be sweet to troll the Leafs and call all their bluffs by cutting a reasonable compromise like this with someone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boxiebrown Posted March 29, 2013 Share Posted March 29, 2013 Not if mg is deciding them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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