nickels555 Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 Been watching Mike Green this playoff year, and he still seems to have a lot left in the tank. Would be a great RH PP shot with the Sedins and give us the offensive Dman we need till one can be developed. If we can find a way to dump Bieksa'a 4.5 Million...would offer up to 3yrs 15 mil for Green. Would expire about the same time as the twins.. Edler Green Sbisa Tanev Hamhuis Clendening/ Corrado Would be an OK looking D core moving fwd. Think our PP would improve tremendously. Green turns 30 in October, so should get 3 pretty solid years out of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aladeen Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 Gonna take more than 5 per to bring him to a new Coast and Country IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 Wrong forum and try $6.5m+ and probably 4-5 years but I'd LOVE Green. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 Elvis being super-helpful as useful, I see. /sarcasm OP, a lot of other forum members have also had the same thoughts about Green. However, I don't see how we could make our salary cap work. It is next to impossible to be able to afford Green at this stage, IMO. I doubt they ask Hamhuis/Bieksa to waive just for one year before their contracts expire. Like I've been parroting in the other threads, Sbisa should not have been re-signed. Any two combined of Bieksa, Hamhuis, Miller, Higgins or even Burrows or Vrbata would make room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orka Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 Any two combined of Bieksa, Hamhuis, Miller, Higgins or even Burrows or Vrbata would make room. too bad everyone has NTC's lol, thanks Gillis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 too bad everyone has NTC's lol, thanks Gillis. None of Miller, Vrbata or Higgins have full NTC's and Miller and Vrbata were signed by Benning, not Gillis. Miller really is the most obvious guy to move though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdatb Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 Any two combined of Bieksa, Hamhuis, Miller, Higgins or even Burrows or Vrbata would make room. yeah but like i said hamhuis/bieksa are unlikely. Higgins? WD loves him. I strongly doubt we move Vrbata. He might have good value right now, but he scored twice as many goals as anyone else on the team. I would think Burrows/Miller would be the best choices. Though after seeing the effort our team put in when Burrows was injured, maybe Miller is the only option. Like you said above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UFCanuck Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 He only has two assists in the playoffs and he plays on the powerplay with Ovechkin and Backstrom. Tanev and Edler still have more points than him. Pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForsbergTheGreat Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 He only has two assists in the playoffs and he plays on the powerplay with Ovechkin and Backstrom. Tanev and Edler still have more points than him. Pass. Exactly why watching a game is more important than looking at stats. If you've watched the caps this post season, green has played really well last game he had 4 real good scoring chances and hit a couple posts. He provides a completely different element that teams have to try and defend. He's a very mobile D and becomes basically a rover on the PP that teams have to watch out for. Neither Tanev or Edler can provide the calmness that he does when he has the puck. Green likely cost 3 years 19 mill or 4 years 24 mill. yeah but like i said hamhuis/bieksa are unlikely. Higgins? WD loves him. I strongly doubt we move Vrbata. He might have good value right now, but he scored twice as many goals as anyone else on the team. I would think Burrows/Miller would be the best choices. Though after seeing the effort our team put in when Burrows was injured, maybe Miller is the only option. Like you said above. by the sounds of the interview JB did today he's not affriad to ask players to waive their NTC. Bieska and or Hamhuis could both be gone by next summer, it wouldn't surprise me if JB got and early start and tried moving one of them this summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Time Lord Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 5 million would be okay for his offense. But anything more than that is an overpayment. Green plays easy defensive minutes against weak competition on Washington's 3rd pairing. And he'll be getting a lot more than 5 million, unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billabong Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 Green is obviously a fun player to watch and his offensive abilities would be tops of any Canuck defenseman in our history BUT it will take 7m to land the biggest fish on the market and at 29 signing him till he's in his last thirties at that price with his injury problems the last few years is not a smart move Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkyard Dog Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 Hottest FA on the market. Has gotten the majority of his points off one of the best passers, Backstrom, and one of the best goal scorers, OV, in the game. Is still a good puck moving D though but he is no top D. Green also isn't great defensively. In fact he is probably the worst defensively among their top 4/5 which isn't awful considering how deep the Caps are at their blueline but not great nonetheless. 6.5M+ for sure which is definitely not worth it. Rather sign Ehrhoff short term 1 year and go after a defenseman next off-season when we will have a lot more cap to work with. Next year looks like it could have a lot better of UFAs anyway. Doubt Benning moves Miller this off-season as he believes "we need two good goalies" which I don't mind for next year. If he is able to move Bieksa and Higgins then that could change a lot of things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.53 Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 too bad everyone has NTC's lol, thanks Gillis. I really hate when people get on Gillis for his NTCs, and now they're starting to get on Benning… It really makes me wonder how deeply fans understand what a GM has to do. In MOST cases, NTCs are customary for high profile players. You don't sign a guy like Hamhuis without a NTC, and especially for 4.6 million. For high demand free agents, you don't start the conversation with at least a limited NTC, you don't start the conversation. NTCs also allow you to sign players for cheaper than they are worth. Again, I use Dan Hamhuis as an example. Without a doubt could demand 5 million plus on the free market. NTCs allow you to build a core because in a cap world, every dime counts. NTC are customary when doing business. Good luck ever signing a big name free agent without NTCs. The best you can get is a third liner. If you don't offer a NTC, someone else will. It's a damned if you do, damned if you don't. You sign a player for the high cap hit their worth, and people complain. You sign someone for cheap but give them a NTC and people complain. If you want free agents, you got to pay up one way or another. Their just different forms of gambles. I don't mean to single you out, but I see this far too often on CDC it's just frustrating. As to your post. I'm with you. Mike Green would be a stud for us. I don't see why he wouldn't at least consider us. He'd be our top right handed defenceman for years to come, will be playing with an actual solid D core with Edler, Hamhuis, Tanev and Green. Job security is nice. I think he would demand 6 million plus a ntc on the open market. Maybe a bit more. But I'm with you. If we can shore up some cap, I'm all for trying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkyard Dog Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 I don't think we are going to do much in FA this off-season. Perhaps maybe even nothing at all. We do not have much cap space and still have a few people to re-sign. We also want to bring in younger guys next year. 2016 off-season I think we will be able to make major significant changes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brendan Gaunce Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 he has 2 assists in 10 playoff gp this year... not as advertised i guess? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleShield Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 Bring in Green and Ehrhoff... *drools* Edler Green Ehrhoff Tanev Hamhuis Bieksa And then there's the cap... It could work something like this: Sedin (7.000) - Sedin (7.000) - Kassian (1.750) Baertschi (0.875) - Bonino (1.900) - Vrbata (5.000) Kenins (0.753) - Horvat (0.894) - Hansen (2.500) Dorsett (2.650) - Gaunce (0.865) - Vey (0.772) McMillan (0.688) Edler (5.000) - Green (7.000) Ehrhoff (5.000) - Tanev (4.450) Hamhuis (4.500) - Bieksa (4.600) Corrado (0.633) - Clendenning (0.858) Lack (1.150) Markstrom (1.400) Luongo (0.800) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRAZY_4_NAZZY Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 I like Mike Green too, but I think he isn't as good as he once was. Besides he plays bottom pairing defensive minutes with Tim Gleason, meaning he doesn't usually see the tough opposition minutes. He isn't a top pairing guy anymore, he cannot handle large mins...he is better suited playing less....less is more sometimes...but considering he would look upwards of 6 mil...i'm not super thrilled to pay that much especially since he is almost 30 and our emphasis is to get younger. As much as I like him, I would take a pass and take a chance on properly grooming guys like Clendenning to do the job at a much lower price range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 Green will be turning 30 in the fall. Players his age end up going for term, so 3 years will not do it; it will be more like 6. Also, with Phaneuf getting $7M per year, Green will likely get something similar, because he's not garbage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threadsetter Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 I like the idea, but i think we will need to give him six for 4-5 years and we will need to dump bieksa or higgins (preferably both) for picks to get him. Ultimately I would rather have Franson. Younger, cheaper and is a BC boy. Would be much easier to entice him to come and play for us and can help our PP just as a Mike Green would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messier's_elbow Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 I rather try Clendenning at less then half the cap hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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