Alflives Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 Just now, BigTramFan said: Sorry Alf, are you saying Tanev + Virtanen is excellent deal for Reinhart + 2nd? Or Tanev + Granlund/Baer? Either way I think JB should leap, but just wanted to clarify... I'm kind of fed up with Virtanen, so it's: Tanev + Virtanen = Reinhart + second. I hope JB would leap at this type of trade too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTramFan Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 13 minutes ago, Alflives said: I'm kind of fed up with Virtanen, so it's: Tanev + Virtanen = Reinhart + second. I hope JB would leap at this type of trade too. I really don't think BUF would go for this. They probably would be as fed up with Virt as we are. Virts development has really stalled to the point where I think BUF would want Tanev PLUS either a semi-proven young player (Granlund or Baer) or a promising prospect (Boeser) or a pick(s). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 Just now, BigTramFan said: I really don't think BUF would go for this. They probably would be as fed up with Virt as we are. Virts development has really stalled to the point where I think BUF would want Tanev PLUS either a semi-proven young player (Granlund or Baer) or a promising prospect (Boeser) or a pick(s). They can have Bear, if they don't want .Virtanen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenhodgejr Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 Proposal: Tanev, Sutter, and Virtanen to Colorado for Tyson Jost and 2nd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blömqvist Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 1 hour ago, janisahockeynut said: Sorry I don't think Tanev and Virtanen gets you Reinhart I'd say.......... Tanev, and one of Granlund, Baertschi or Gaudette for Reinhart+ 2017 3rd ...............gets it done If Buffalo takes Guadette (heavy cost!)................our lines look like this Goldobin - Reinhart - Tippett/Dahlen Baertschi - Horvat - Boeser Granlund - Sutter - Virtanen/Eriksson or Goldobin - Patrick/Hischier - Reinhart Baertschi - Horvat - Boeser Granlund - Sutter - Virtanen/Dahlen/Eriksson But realistically , we don't get the #1 or #2 seed, and I have seen Tippett up as high as #3, sooooo, we better have a back up plan for that 1st line RW Then again, we need not rush this, as there is still the 2018 draft......... I am pretty good with the idea! And let's please remember we have Eriksson for the next 5 years If the Sabres would do Tanev and Granlund for Reinhart that would actually be a fair trade on both sides. Tanev is a premier shutdown defenseman who can take tougher matchups away from Ristolainen and is of similar age to O'Reilly and Kane. Granlund looks like he can put up 20/20 or even 25/25 seasons while bringing excellent two-way play. Vancouver gets a potential #1 playmaking centre (or worst-case scenario #1RW) who shoots right and is a hometown boy to boot. I'd be all over that trade. I'd add a 3rd even to get it done. Then for the draft, I would look at drafting the best available centre between Patrick, Hischier, Vilardi, and Mittelstadt or if they are all gone, then take the best defenseman between Liljegren and Makar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenhodgejr Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 Tanev and Gaunce to Arizona for Dylan Strome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manroth19 Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 We fleece every team in these deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammertime Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 Philly's only right shot D is Gudas they have a good group of young mobile D Ghost, Provarov, Myers having a stabilizing guy (Tanev) back there would be something I would be very interested in if I were Hextal. To Philly: Tanev + 2nd (35th ish) To Van: Rubtsov + 1st (10th ish) Van Drafts BPA's our first Liljegren/Mittlestadt/Vilardi, and with Philli's first we grab Pettersson/Foote/Valimaki/Glass. We pick up 2 potential top 6C's and a future top 4D as well as hang on to Sbisa. Youth movement: Bae Bo Boeser Granlund Rubtsov Goldie Dahlen Pettersson Gaudette Virtanen Gaunce Cram Juolevi Liljergen Tram Stetch Hutton Gud Demko Sprinkle in a few vets Sutter Sbisa Eriksson and things start to look pretty sexy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenhodgejr Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 Proposal: Tanev + Rodin to Buffalo Sam Reinhart to Van Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwijibo Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 2 hours ago, kenhodgejr said: Proposal: Tanev + Rodin to Buffalo Sam Reinhart to Van Do you seriously think Rodin has ANY value? Buffalo wouln't even consider this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
48MPHSlapShot Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 Tanev + Granlund + Columbus 2nd to Buffalo Reinhart to Vancouver ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenhodgejr Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 15 minutes ago, 48MPHSlapShot said: Tanev + Granlund + Columbus 2nd to Buffalo Reinhart to Vancouver ? Granlund is a fist line talent with the potential to put up more points than Reinhart. Remember he is on a line with Jack Eichel. Your proposal is a gross overpayment and Granlund is part of our core moving forward. Remember Larson was worth Taylor Hall and Seth Jones was worth Ryan Johansen. Tanev is arguably as impactful of a defence man as those guys. He is in his prime and plays a defensive style that Buffalo needs help with. Tanev alone is worth a 1st a prospect and a roster player. Or a 1 for 1 trade with another high quality player. Jyrki Jokipakka and a 2nd round pick got Curtis Lazar and a depth defender. I think Tanev (who is better than Jokipakka) + a 2nd + maybe Dorsett should get it done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freeridebc Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 1 hour ago, 48MPHSlapShot said: Tanev + Granlund + Columbus 2nd to Buffalo Reinhart to Vancouver ? Wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threadsetter1 Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 On 2017-03-19 at 9:47 AM, mll said: Buffalo were willing to trade Kane at the TDL (Canucks were not involved). It's not logical to move Nylander as they still have trouble scoring and moving Kane makes Nylander one of his possible replacements. Colorado want to rebuild from scratch. Sakic listed Jost, Rantanen and MacKinnon as their core. Everyone else is apparently available including Johnson and Barrie - i.e. why be willing to move them and then bring in Tanev. He's not in the right age group and especially not for Jost. What I wanna know is would colorado be open to making a deal like: Tanev Van 1st Barrie Colorado 1st beneficial for both as Colorado already has their top 2 C and they will pick either Patrick or Hirshier with the first pick overall, provided they land it. So do they fall back a couple spots and take a skilled winger like viraldi ( i know hes a centre but chances are he plays wing in the NHL) or maybe they take a d man like Makar or Liljegren? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threadsetter1 Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 If we are going to move Tanev, I would love to see it done for a potential first line centre. I think that is really the only way that truly benefits our team. I like the idea of trading with Colorado. They need tons of help defensively and Tanev fits that bill, plus they are likely to have a top 2 pick in this years draft (if not first) , that i think they could be open to moving. Considering the fact that they have Jost and Mackinnon as a future 1-2 punch down the middle. Colorado also said publicly that their core players moving forward were going to be Rantanen, Jost and Mackinnon, so that makes Barrie available. To Col: Tanev Vancouver 1st Rnd Pick (3-5) Columbus 2nd To Van: Tyson Barrie Colorado 1st Rnd Pick (1-2) Canucks get the PP quarterback defensemen they are looking for, who is also a right-handed shot to replace Tanev. Colorado gets a top pairing defender who can effectively play against other teams top lines. That pick becomes moveable because they have Jost and Mackinnon already. They use the Canucks pick to select a d man or a high potential winger that they need. Canucks pick either Patrick or Hirshier. Lets say for the sake of this its Patrick. Now the Canucks have the 1C they have been looking so desperately for and a true offensive defensemen, who can effectively run a powerplay. This trade makes the Canucks a worse team defensively in the short term, however I believe this plays a key role in making us competitive for Rasmus Dahlin next year. The generational talent defensemen the Canucks have so desperately needed for so long. Several years down the road Post sedins & provided eriksson can be moved, I can see our lineup looking something like this: Goldobin-Patrick-Boeser Baertschi-Horvat-Virtanen Dahlen-Gaudette-Granlund Gaunce-Sutter-Boucher Lot of money to have sutter on the fourth line tho ** :/ Grenier Fourth line is a little soft, but the whole lineup is obviously just a rough mock up. I also like Boucher because he can play up the lineup with ease and has a deadly shot. Dahlin-Barrie Juolevi-Gudbranson Tyramkin-Stetcher Hutton-Subban Brisebois Demko Markstrom Garteig This is provided everything goes as planned, but knowing the Canucks there is a slim chance that will happen, but its worth the thought. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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