filthycanuck

Getting rid of Sutter and Granlund's salaries = Michael Ferland

How so? Must have been pretty damn easy for Megna to score all 100 goals playing with the Sedins. Just because you're with good players, its not given you're gonna score. You either put up points or you don't. Im not saying Baertchi is terrible. Im just stating the fact that Goldy's been playing well and yet people's patience are so short for him and yet the leash is much longer for Jake and Sven, when at one point earlier in their careers have struggled.

Sutter was in PK1 last year, enlighten me on what place our PK was at the end of the season? Thats what I thought. Sutter is injury prone and barely helps this team other than the odd overtime goal here and there. Jury is still out on Beagle on whether he can stay healthy or not, fact is, Sutter annually misses a lot of games during the season and is no where near what hes getting paid for as a "foundational player"

Bo Horvat, pretty good player if you've heard of him

Id get rid of Sutter. He's redundant and injury prone, I'd even keep Motte over Sutter, I don't think Ive seen a game where Motte has had a bad game. The guy is playing for his career every single night, and deserves to be in the lineup

Baertchi has 3 more seasons under his belt, what were you expecting? Baertchi was NOWHERE close to being as good as Goldobin at the same age. This is Goldy's 1st full season in the NHL, not many players get into the league get the work ethic down pat, it takes them a few years to realize what it takes to stay in the lineup

Goldy's got holes in his game, we get that, sometimes he goes stretches in the game where he's invisible and next thing you know, he makes a fancy play and gets in the score sheet. People make it seem that Baertchi is this dominant player thats always noticeable, well in fact hes not. He still makes the same gaffes as Goldy right now or even when he was at the same age. If anything, you'd give the vote for Goldy as I've seen him be one of the top forwards more than Baertchi

I doubt Goldy is gonna be exposed. Same rules as Vegas, 7 forwards, 3 dmen, 1 goalie. I really doubt Baertchi is still going to be with the Canucks beyond next season, and possibility even this year considering Goldy provides the same thing as Sven does with a third of a cap hit. Baertchi's injury history is a big red flag going forward

The few times I watched him play, he kind of looks like Matthew Lombardi when he was wit the Flames. Fast, plays a bit like a firefly in which hes absolutely everywhere on the ice, has some decent finish. Lombardi got 500 plus games in the bigs, and if thats Tyler Madden's floor, thats pretty damn good for a 3rd rounder

same here. His dad John was a decent scorer but was an absolute stud defensively. PK1 and dominant in the face off circle.

Was at the game tonight, Jake was incredible, and yes that shot is LEGIT. I saw Boesers shots ( I know there might be something wrong with him ) tonight, and it looked like he was firing muffins at Crawford. I wonder if they'll start deploying Jake once in awhile on the Petteson line with Goldy to see if something clicks. Ericsson had some good moments tonight, but from what Ive seen ( and other games ) his hands are done. That once chance that he had in front of the net from Petterson, I had a good vantage point in the game , barely did anything with it, no patience whatsoever. Ericsson had some slick mitts back in the day but Im afraid that his skills are diminishing fast

I can see why management, most notably Judd Brackett was so high on him. Jake Wise was consensus pick, but I like how Brackett explained why Madden was chosen. If Skill and size was all things being equal, the lightest guy has more upside (Wise at about 185lbs, and Madden 150 lbs) I never saw it in that light because previous regime would always figure to pick the bigger, heavier guy = more NHL ready. Benning and Co. are clearly looking at 3-5 years down the road, taking risks on much higher ceilings that going for guys that are just good enough to contribute in the NHL in 2 years. The reasoning of Brackett makes sense, if the lighter guy can do the same thing as the heavier guy, imagine if they mature physically. Hopefully Madden pans out, so far the returns have been very positive

If Nikita is back here by March, small chance (no pun intended) his defensive partner could be another rookie Dman making his debut. Hint: Hes playing for Michigan right now =)

Virtanen wouldn't have been picked if he was from anywhere else but BC. Ehlers and Nylander had a ton more talent. But then again, I heard Benning said they were really hoping for Dal Colle, so could've been worse. Im not sure Dal Colle will ever pan out, like you mentioned, at least we got a more than competent NHL player with upside rather than a guy can't even crack an NHL roster

Comparing Elias to the Great one is far fetched but stylistically, I agree. EP just puts blindpasses to an open area of the ice and you see Goldy or Ericsson reacting but a step back which shows EP clearly knows where the play is going to go. EP , in my opinion is like you said, is very similar to Datsuk, although Pavel has has more wheels but Elias has a much more lethal shot

Uhm no. Forsberg and Petterson games are absolutely look NOTHING alike. They both have great hands, yes, but they are completely different players. Petterson is a finesse player, and Forsberg has a power game. The guy who plays almost exactly like Forsberg thats playing in the NHL right now would be Sidney Crosby. Petterson would dodge and weave through checks while Forsberg would actual welcome checks and use the physicality to his advantage

Unfortunately thats the barest minimum, which isn't good enough for a roster spot. Gaunce has to bring something else to the table. If he had an edge or even was a consistent 50- 55 percent in faceoffs he'd be in the lineup.

I wasnt really high on HIshcier or Patrick. As much as everybody at that time was tooting on the Cody Glass horn, I was hoping for Casey MIddelstadt who I think will be a very good player, but good on Benning to take Pettersson. As far as the best player in the draft, too early to say. I dunno if you saw highlights of MIro Heiskanen play the other night, the kid looked absolutely ELECTRIC, I can see why Dallas didn't want to give him up for Karlsson

He is now after the game tonight. Hands down the best player we had against the Yotes. Turned it up when the spotlight was on him

Players get signed and waived all the time (ex: Wieroch from last year). That being said, I'd rather give Schaller a chance than Granlund. We've seen what Granlund can do which is not a whole lot. Rather give a spot to a player with a defined role that actually does something, than Granlund who does a whole lot of nothing

I agree that Goldy is a lock. Simply put, theres a lot of factors that are going in his favor 1) Chemistry with EP and Baertchi. Its one thing that the line has been consistently be together during games, its another that they are also together in PRACTICE as well. Clearly Travis and the coaching staff sees something that a lot of us dont see.Tethering his talents to the Golden swedish child really really helps his cause 2) Having an impressive camp and preseason 3) His waiver status 4) Louis Ericsson injury If you add all of them together , it seems like hes a shoe in to be in the opening roster. When Goldy came up camp, he had to prove himself to be on the team. The narrative now is trying to find reasons to have him NOT be on the team. Hes done very well and can't wait to see what he does this season

Crop infrastructure is absolutely killing it for me right now. 300% gain in 3 months

I remembered his last season here and there was maybe like 5-7 games where he LOOKED liked a Norris calibre defenseman (most notably that one game against the Preds) Nikita was just crushing guys left and right, and showing off his skating ability. Its scary if he ever puts it all together but that remains to be seen if he does. Hes a game changer when hes on his A game. I saw some Islanders games when Chara was still there, I know its a different era but Tryamkin was much much much better at the same age. Chara was just big and plodding, you would've NEVER known that same Chara would be a future Norris trophy winner and probably a HOFer

I dont think he needs to have a golden camp, but he has to be noticeable. All things being equal, between Goldy Granlund and Gaunce, Goldy should win out unless he really bombs at camp. The other 2 had their chance as a full time NHLer, Goldy hasn't and has already shown that he can produce if given the chance.

Hughes will get more time in the gym in comparison to being in the AHL where he needs to travel and its rigours, wouldn't you rather have him in the gym or in the rink rather than in the bus? Also in Michigan, hes gonna be their go to guy in the backend, PP1 and PK1, down by a goal or up by a goal, hes the man, and he'll get his minutes rather than in the A where he will probably have an adjustment period and work his way up