NuxFan09 Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 Sauve scored the overtime winner (assisted by Canucks prospects Wesley Myron and Alex Mallet) for Kalamazoo in a 4-3 OT win over the Toledo Walleye today. He finished even on the night and had 3 shots and 4 PIMS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 Not the OT winner from today, but here's another OT winner from Sauve. Really nice goal. It's worth the watch. His goal is at 4:17. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ossi Vaananen Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 He's played in the NHL before playing in the ECHL.... not a good sign of development. I was really pumping this kids tires a little while back, and maybe it is Arniel hindering his development, but he's gotta claw his way back to the AHL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NuxFan09 Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 He's played in the NHL before playing in the ECHL.... not a good sign of development. I was really pumping this kids tires a little while back, and maybe it is Arniel hindering his development, but he's gotta claw his way back to the AHL. In this particular case, I wouldn't worry too much. I think he got sent down to the ECHL for two reasons: his injury and the numbers game. He was out for a long time with an injury so it makes sense that upon his return he got sent down to the ECHL for a bit of conditioning but it just so happens that the Wolves also have a logjam at defense, especially with a guy like Andersson stepping up. The fact is, Sauve actually looked decent when he was called up to the Canucks. His recent demotion to the ECHL doesn't change that and it's more circumstantial, rather than performance related. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 I wouldn't worry about Sauve. He's taking the long way to the NHL, but when a player has the size and skating ability that Sauve has, there's a good chance he'll make it to the NHL. What is keeping him back right now is his decision making IMO. He's gotta learn to make plays quicker and trust his instincts. That can be taught though, and that's what he's working on now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ossi Vaananen Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 In this particular case, I wouldn't worry too much. I think he got sent down to the ECHL for two reasons: his injury and the numbers game. He was out for a long time with an injury so it makes sense that upon his return he got sent down to the ECHL for a bit of conditioning but it just so happens that the Wolves also have a logjam at defense, especially with a guy like Andersson stepping up. The fact is, Sauve actually looked decent when he was called up to the Canucks. His recent demotion to the ECHL doesn't change that and it's more circumstantial, rather than performance related. It's 12 games now, a bit longer than your regular 'conditioning stint'. I used to watch every Wolves game before the NHL started back up, and I remember the rift between him and Arniel back in November. Despite his solid defensive play, Arniel and co. haven't exactly given Sauve the chance to shine down there. We're almost 5 years from his draft year, and he has only one full season of pro hockey - concerning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NuxFan09 Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 It's 12 games now, a bit longer than your regular 'conditioning stint'. I used to watch every Wolves game before the NHL started back up, and I remember the rift between him and Arniel back in November. Despite his solid defensive play, Arniel and co. haven't exactly given Sauve the chance to shine down there. We're almost 5 years from his draft year, and he has only one full season of pro hockey - concerning. True, we're probably past the point of a "conditioning stint" here with Sauve, but I still do believe he's suffering from the numbers game. The Wolves have two of their own defensemen whom we all know are their top priority in Mark Matheson and Brad Hunt. Next, you've got Derek Joslin, who the Canucks specifically signed to be a depth defenseman or a regular defenseman for the farm team. After them, Sauve is competing with a couple other quality Canucks prospects in Kevin Connauton, Peter Andersson and even Adam Polasek. I think Polasek is the key name here. I think Polasek was brought up from the ECHL when Sauve originally got hurt and he's played so well when in the lineup that the Wolves decided to send Sauve down when he got healthy, rather than send Polasek back down. I do see your point though. If Sauve was progressing like he should, he would have forced the Wolves to make a decision on who else to scratch or demote instead of him. That said, you said it yourself, the coaching staff really isn't giving him a fair shake, especially given the level he's played at during his tenure in the AHL. We are all aware at this point of Arniel's handling in general of Canucks prospects (Climie starting 6 straight after just coming back from injury, including both games in a back to back, while Cannata sits on the bench). At the end of the day, I'm just not convinced that Sauve's demotion to the ECHL is indicative of his development. I simply think Arniel and Co. liked the mix they had on the blueline after Sauve went down to injury and decided to keep it that way, justified or not. I certainly think Sauve deserves a spot over Vandermeer and Polasek. ______________________________________________________________________________________________________ Anyway, speaking of Sauve, he had no points, 3 shots on net and a +1 rating for Kalamazoo today in a 4-1 win over the Cincinnati Cyclones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canvoucer Vanuck Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 Guy gets a lot of shots on net for a D-man though... at least he's playing like he wants to be back up in the AHL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NuxFan09 Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 Sauve went scoreless and finished -1 with 2 shots on goal for Kalamazoo in a 3-1 loss to the Reading Royals today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higgyfan Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 Disappointing to hear the news of Sauve. He looked to be quite promising a number of years ago. Some bad luck and (what looks like) mediocre coaching seems to have stalled his career. Hope he can turn things around. It will take ++ character and hard work for him to bring his game to the level it needs to be if he wants another contract. Anyone know when his current contract is up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrsasaki Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 Disappointing to hear the news of Sauve. He looked to be quite promising a number of years ago. Some bad luck and (what looks like) mediocre coaching seems to have stalled his career. Hope he can turn things around. It will take ++ character and hard work for him to bring his game to the level it needs to be if he wants another contract. Anyone know when his current contract is up? I believe this is his last year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuretoMogilny Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 Sauve will sign with some other team, play a year in the AHL and we'll see him in the NHL in two, mark my words. He has been handled extremely poorly by this team (and for what reason who knows). He is a solid, stay at home dman with size who can skate, something every team wants. He is NHL capable and will make it, just not with us. Bad move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NuxFan09 Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 Sauve will sign with some other team, play a year in the AHL and we'll see him in the NHL in two, mark my words. He has been handled extremely poorly by this team (and for what reason who knows). He is a solid, stay at home dman with size who can skate, something every team wants. He is NHL capable and will make it, just not with us. Bad move. This is how I see Sauve as well. I have no idea what people who call him a bust have to base that on..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canvoucer Vanuck Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 This is how I see Sauve as well. I have no idea what people who call him a bust have to base that on..... It's because of the criticism that's dogged him through his career since around the time he was drafted - his decision-making. We've seen it before this year with Chicago where he literally has to pass it off or throw it away at the last second while a forechecker is all over him. He's got the tools but the toolbox is questionable, and that's being honest. Going by what I've heard, last year with MacT he played an efficient game and kept it simple to the point where he was looking like he could carve out a career as a 7th D-man or serviceable bottom pairing guy. This year - under Arniel - he's regressed and has gone away from that game. If he's to re-establish himself he's going to have to play that simple way again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NuxFan09 Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 No points and only one shot on net for Sauve today in a 2-1 shootout win for Kalamazoo over the Elmira Jackals. He finished with an even rating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NuxFan09 Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 Sauve finished with an assist, 1 shot on net, 2 PIMS and an even rating for Kalamazoo in a 3-2 OT win over the Elmira Jackals today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombieksa Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 Hmm, sorry to the mods for making the other thread in Canucks talk, didn't see this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bure fan Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 Kid looked alright, but now placed on waivers. He will join Utica Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wshdrvvn Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 this is his last chance to do something in the canucks system. starts with a good camp.. good luck the rest of the way to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckfan85 Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 too much depth on canucks blue line hammer Edler Garrison Juice Tanev Weber Alberts Corrado and then on the farm, I would say Andersson looked better than him? maybe not - I would place sauve at 9 or 10 - but he may get 2nd call up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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