King Heffy Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 1 hour ago, Tre Mac said: I'd love to see Teddy Bridgewater start again in the NFL. Adam Shefter was saying the asking price would be around a 5th or a 6th but doesn't think there are any interest in him as a starter. That will go up as injuries hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tre Mac Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 1 hour ago, 73 Percent said: At that point I just keep him. But if course I'm not the GM. 2 minutes ago, King Heffy said: That will go up as injuries hit. I don't know, a 5th or 6th in the NFL is almost like a 2nd or 3rd in the NHL, if I was the Jets I'd take that deal. Be nice to see him get another chance though wherever that may be. I still hate Fantasy Football, much like Hockey pools I just cannot muster any interest. I love the sports but never cared for pools/drafts. Maybe it's because I play hockey/football simulators and they are far more in depth? Who knows lol. All I know is I can't stand those fantasy nerds on NFL networks, they look like they couldn't even catch a 5 yard pass. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van40 Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 Would you guys rather have regular season allstar qbs like Rivers, Dalton, Stafford, etc Or qbs that win in the playoffs but don't put up numbers like Eli or Flacco? Of course every team would prefer a Rodgers or Brady but I'm interested in hearing how you guys think about the midde of the pack qbs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apple Juice Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 16 minutes ago, Van40 said: Would you guys rather have regular season allstar qbs like Rivers, Dalton, Stafford, etc Or qbs that win in the playoffs but don't put up numbers like Eli or Flacco? Of course every team would prefer a Rodgers or Brady but I'm interested in hearing how you guys think about the midde of the pack qbs. Rivers and Stafford have the talent to win in the playoffs. It's just a matter of execution from their teammates and coaches that I'd say have failed them. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tre Mac Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 1 hour ago, Van40 said: Would you guys rather have regular season allstar qbs like Rivers, Dalton, Stafford, etc Or qbs that win in the playoffs but don't put up numbers like Eli or Flacco? Of course every team would prefer a Rodgers or Brady but I'm interested in hearing how you guys think about the midde of the pack qbs. Way too much blame gets put on QB's when they lose in the playoffs. If Jeff Hostetler and Trent Dilfer can QB a Superbowl winning team so could Rivers, Dalton and Stafford imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 5 minutes ago, Tre Mac said: Way too much blame gets put on QB's when they lose in the playoffs. If Jeff Hostetler and Trent Dilfer can QB a Superbowl winning team so could Rivers, Dalton and Stafford imo. I mean, Dalton is more than capable if he isn’t getting sacked 40+ times a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tre Mac Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 (edited) So I just googled worst QB's to win a Super Bowl: https://fansided.com/2018/01/31/10-worst-quarterbacks-ever-win-super-bowl/6/ 10. Eli Manning 9. Mark Rypien 8. Terry Bradshaw 7. Joe Flacco 6. Jim MacMahon 5. Jeff Hostetler 4. Jim Plunkett (who? lol) 3. Brad Johnson(wow totally forgot about him) 2. Doug Williams 1. Trent Dilfer(only QB to win and not get resigned) I can honestly say I've never heard of Jim Plunkett lol. Washington, Baltimore and NYG have two QB's on this list. Edited August 21, 2018 by Tre Mac Forgot about Baltimore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
73 Percent Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Tre Mac said: So I just googled worst QB's to win a Super Bowl: https://fansided.com/2018/01/31/10-worst-quarterbacks-ever-win-super-bowl/6/ 10. Eli Manning 9. Mark Rypien 8. Terry Bradshaw 7. Joe Flacco 6. Jim MacMahon 5. Jeff Hostetler 4. Jim Plunkett (who? lol) 3. Brad Johnson(wow totally forgot about him) 2. Doug Williams 1. Trent Dilfer(only QB to win and not get resigned) I can honestly say I've never heard of Jim Plunkett lol. Washington, Baltimore and NYG have two QB's on this list. Rick rypiens cousin right? Also I put foleson there before manning. Edited August 21, 2018 by 73 Percent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tre Mac Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 19 minutes ago, 73 Percent said: Rick rypiens cousin right? Yeah, I remember reading Mark Rypien texted his brother Wes to call his mother when Rick passed. And it came out this year that Mark attempted suicide in the past: Quote SPOKANE, Wash. (AP) Former Super Bowl MVP Mark Rypien said he has attempted suicide, hired prostitutes and suffers from persistent depression. Now, he’s wondering if he sustained brain injuries while playing football. https://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/former-super-bowl-mvp-mark-rypien-says-he-attempted-suicide-033018 So sad. I also had no idea he was Canadian: Quote He is the first Canadian-born quarterback to start in the NFL and win the Super Bowl MVP award, doing so in Super Bowl XXVI. 1991 was Rypien's best season; he threw for 3,564 yards and 28 touchdowns with 11 interceptions, leading the Redskins to Super Bowl XXVI after recording a 14-2 regular season record. He was named the MVP (Most Valuable Player) of the game, passing for 292 yards and 2 touchdowns and leading his team to a 37-24 win over the Buffalo Bills. Rypien, a native of Calgary, Alberta, became the first foreign-born player to earn the honor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van40 Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 1 hour ago, Apple Juice said: Rivers and Stafford have the talent to win in the playoffs. It's just a matter of execution from their teammates and coaches that I'd say have failed them. Both of those guys underperform in the playoffs though. Almost all of their major numbers go down.The eye test backs it up too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van40 Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Tre Mac said: Way too much blame gets put on QB's when they lose in the playoffs. If Jeff Hostetler and Trent Dilfer can QB a Superbowl winning team so could Rivers, Dalton and Stafford imo. I didn't even know who Jeff Hostetler was tbh. In five playoff games, he completed 72 of 115 passes (62.6 percent) for 1,034 yards, seven touchdowns, no interceptions, and a 112.0 passer rating while going 4-1. Hostetler seems like a guy who showed for the postseason. Maybe the lack of pressure helps these types of qbs?? Dilfer was carried by a top 3 defense of all time. Guys like Dilfer, are the rare exceptions. He was really trash. Edited August 21, 2018 by Van40 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isam Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 2 hours ago, Van40 said: Would you guys rather have regular season allstar qbs like Rivers, Dalton, Stafford, etc Or qbs that win in the playoffs but don't put up numbers like Eli or Flacco? Of course every team would prefer a Rodgers or Brady but I'm interested in hearing how you guys think about the midde of the pack qbs. Rivers is hof qb who really hasnt had the team since 08. If he has got the horses then he can win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van40 Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 28 minutes ago, Isam said: Rivers is hof qb who really hasnt had the team since 08. If he has got the horses then he can win. Maybe if they focused more on building a defense around him rather than catering to his needs on offense all the time he could finally win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isam Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 3 minutes ago, Van40 said: Maybe if they focused more on building a defense around him rather than catering to his needs on offense all the time he could finally win. They have. Bosa and ingram are two of the best ends in the game and the secondary is putting up similar numbers to the legion of the boom. But you still need an oline to protect the qb. This year they finally seemed to address that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NucksPatsFan Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 I learned today the Ravens are 40-40 since Flacco signed the Elite deal. Definition of Mr. Average Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReggieBush Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 (edited) 5 hours ago, Van40 said: Maybe if they focused more on building a defense around him rather than catering to his needs on offense all the time he could finally win. bad take. Their defense is stacked up front and in the secondary. LB's imo are mediocre at best (Although, I think Chenna Nwosu is a str8 baller) Edited August 22, 2018 by ReggieBush Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van40 Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 3 minutes ago, ReggieBush said: bad take. Their defense is stacked up front and in the secondary. LB's imo are mediocre at best (Although, I think Chenna Nwosu is a str8 baller) Wasn't talking about this year. Rivers will choke when it matters anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReggieBush Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 5 hours ago, Van40 said: Maybe if they focused more on building a defense around him rather than catering to his needs on offense all the time he could finally win. 31 minutes ago, Van40 said: Wasn't talking about this year. Rivers will choke when it matters anyway. These are conflicting statements. Why don't you figure out exactly what your opinion is and then let me know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Boudreau Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 13 hours ago, Van40 said: Would you guys rather have regular season allstar qbs like Rivers, Dalton, Stafford, etc Or qbs that win in the playoffs but don't put up numbers like Eli or Flacco? Of course every team would prefer a Rodgers or Brady but I'm interested in hearing how you guys think about the midde of the pack qbs. Where does Nick Foles stack up? He should at minimum get honorable mention as a bad career qb but hot streak playoff performer. He's had the highest of highs to the lowest of lows in the sport. There is some debate that the Eagles first Super bowl win now was more luck or fluke with the gimmicky rpo offence and Foles getting red hot and breaks in how the road to the Super Bowl shaped up etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van40 Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 5 hours ago, Chip Kelly said: Where does Nick Foles stack up? He should at minimum get honorable mention as a bad career qb but hot streak playoff performer. He's had the highest of highs to the lowest of lows in the sport. There is some debate that the Eagles first Super bowl win now was more luck or fluke with the gimmicky rpo offence and Foles getting red hot and breaks in how the road to the Super Bowl shaped up etc. He is in that group as well. Gimmicky or not Foles and the Eagles will be remembered for tearing up Belichick's defense. It was super fun to watch. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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