Toyotasfan Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 The Seahawks were just gift wrapped a game that they should have lost. thank you Rams. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Building Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 2 minutes ago, ReggieBush said: I am willing to take that ball because russ always gets screwed on roughing the passer penalties. Perhaps, yes, I just don't like seeing bad calls, and Matthews is consistently targeted with them. It's crazy, and even more so when we see the results of that call. Still, Rams should have won even without the Hawks TD and missed FG if their own. Thompson's pick will be on highlight reels for the rest of the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alt kilgore Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 Wow. Hawks have to make it a nail-biter again. Some odd play calls. But they pull out a squeeker against the Rams, in a game with 4 days rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KelownaCanucksFan Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 51 minutes ago, Green Building said: This aged well I’m very happy to be wrong this time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReggieBush Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 51 minutes ago, Green Building said: Perhaps, yes, I just don't like seeing bad calls, and Matthews is consistently targeted with them. It's crazy, and even more so when we see the results of that call. Still, Rams should have won even without the Hawks TD and missed FG if their own. Lets not forget that the Rams had a drive in which 3 pre snap penalties were missed and there was a suspect roughing the passer call (on Ansah, off balance when he hit goff). 2 missed delay of games and a false start that aided the Rams on their TD drive. All in all, the officiating mistakes went both ways and each had drives in which the officials were factors. Both kickers missed kicks they are expected to make, the only difference in the game was that Seattle was able to convert their opportunities into TD's better than the rams. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van40 Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 Seattle played the better game but the Rams could of easily stole this game. After Everett makes the long play and gets into Hawks territory, the Rams should of spiked the ball and stopped the clock. Instead they chose to throw a 5 yard out (which they missed) and burned an extra 20 or so seconds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 4 hours ago, SabreFan1 said: Hey @Pears, the Bills cut a crappy backup o-lineman. You know who's picking him up now! Meet the next newest Bengal! https://www.buffalobills.com/news/bills-release-ot-conor-mcdermott We’re honestly at the point where we should be putting anything together and see if it works 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SabreFan1 Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 33 minutes ago, Pears said: We’re honestly at the point where we should be putting anything together and see if it works The ol' throwing poop at a wall approach!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SabreFan1 Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 People will be stampeding back onto the Seahawks' bandwagon if they keep this up... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SabreFan1 Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 2 hours ago, NucksPatsFan said: Notice how Wilson slides when running towards 3 defenders? Betcha Allen will start doing that soon. If not, his career will be cut short. Those hits take their toll as you get older. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Boudreau Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 8 hours ago, SabreFan1 said: Ran across this. Figured that you all might find it interesting. https://www.statista.com/statistics/784512/nfl-team-ranking-by-all-time-regular-season-winning-percentage/ I'm becoming more interested in advanced stats that measure and evaluate individual player performance. I know that is not really related to these stats. But I wanted to make a point of the larger impact and influence analytics seem to be having on the NFL when it comes to the mainstream and the average fan. It seems NFL next gen stats are not available to the public as of yet that are actually meaningful and useful. I'm talking about CB charting for example. I feel like PFF has cornered the market and become the ubiquitous brand to turn to for analysis. It's unfortunate any stuff that is actually more meaningful than the fluff "grades" they put out is behind a pricey paywall. Have you or anybody else found any alternatives to PFF? The closest thing to advanced stats that I found for defenders in coverage was at pro football reference. Even that was very basic in terms of times targeted and completion percentage allowed. It doesn't show forced incompletions or passed defensed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Boudreau Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 4 hours ago, NucksPatsFan said: Notice how Wilson slides when running towards 3 defenders? Something tells me it's different when you are talking about a qb the size of a TE. I don't really think teammates would respect a big strong qb sliding and avoiding contact unlike when a smaller guy does it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SabreFan1 Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 6 minutes ago, Chip Kelly said: I'm becoming more interested in advanced stats that measure and evaluate individual player performance. I know that is not really related to these stats. But I wanted to make a point of the larger impact and influence analytics seem to be having on the NFL when it comes to the mainstream and the average fan. It seems NFL next gen stats are not available to the public as of yet that are actually meaningful and useful. I'm talking about CB charting for example. I feel like PFF has cornered the market and become the ubiquitous brand to turn to for analysis. It's unfortunate any stuff that is actually more meaningful than the fluff "grades" they put out is behind a pricey paywall. Have you or anybody else found any alternatives to PFF? The closest thing to advanced stats that I found for defenders in coverage was at pro football reference. Even that was very basic in terms of times targeted and completion percentage allowed. It doesn't show forced incompletions or passed defensed. Compared to baseball and hockey, advanced stats for football is in it's infancy. PFF is the closest to nailing down any kind of formulas. For now they are the only ones who can afford the cost of putting it all together. Nobody else is willing to pony up the millions upon millions in start-up costs. Eventually someone will steal and tweak their stuff and create a viable competitor, but for now PFF is the only major player. https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/06/17/pro-football-focus-nfl-analytics-fmia-guest/ Quote How data is impacting the landscape of football By Cris Collinsworth, PFF Majority Owner When I broadcast my first NFL game during the 1989 season, I had absolutely no idea what to study or how to study. NBC provided me with a handful of newspaper articles, we watched some film at the team facility on Friday before the game, and we interviewed some players and coaches. I took notes, but I didn’t even have a board with the players’ names and numbers on it. I was thrown into the deep end of the pool. This was going to be the shortest broadcasting career ever. Luckily, I had David Michaels as my producer (yes, Al Michaels’ brother). David had worked for years with Terry Bradshaw, and Terry had created these boards for calling games. The positions were aligned on this board where they would line up on the field. Offense facing defense, back-ups behind starters. All I had to do was fill in the blanks. Once again, my friend Terry was ahead of his time, and David showed me how to use it. When I think back to those days, it’s pretty comical. Today, I could never read, watch or study all the data that I have available to me. In 2014, I bought controlling interest in Pro Football Focus. At the time we had 60 employees evaluating every player on every play of the NFL season. Now we have nearly 500 employees, providing data to 90 NFL and NCAA teams, multiple television networks and individuals who use it for private purposes. I won’t get into all the details, but if you are a data scientist, mathematician or IT specialist, and you love football, we are hiring. PFF has already changed the way I think about building a team and play-calling. I can remember a time when everybody thought Andy Reid was crazy for passing 60% of the time. He doesn’t look so crazy now. I remember when running backs were thought to be the most valuable position; now they are considered the easiest to replace based on our WAR (wins above replacement) metric. I think it is fair to say that now very few NFL contracts are negotiated without PFF data being at the heart of the debate. The agent pitches all the positive data about the player, and the team is loaded with all the not so positive data. Some of those negotiating stories are pretty entertaining. But as much as the data has changed broadcasting, it has changed the game of football even more. “Gut instincts” are no longer good enough. Decisions must be made based on the data. Every year at the NFL Scouting Combine in Indianapolis, PFF meets with nearly every team. I always laugh when somebody starts telling me about “old school” coaches in the league. I won’t mention names, but some of the “old school” coaches have recently blown me away with their knowledge of the data. I sat in on a meeting with a team that had seven data scientists, mathematicians and IT specialists from Harvard, Stanford and M.I.T. all in the room, and they were loaded with questions that would make your head spin. Luckily, I had the people in the room with the answers. Of course, there are teams that are not quite that sophisticated, and it is getting more and more difficult for them to compete. The data arms race is very real, and it is widening the gap between those who engage, and those who don’t. The fans are now engaged in the data arms race, as well. Fantasy football had always created a market for data, but since May 2018, when the Supreme Court ruled 6-3 against the Professional and Amateur Sports Protection Act that effectively barred state-authorized sports gambling, a new aspect in the arms race has opened to fans. Whether anyone likes it or not, there is no stopping state-sponsored gambling on football and other sports. We have seen a real spike in our consumer sales of our Edge and Elite products. Some fans just want to know more about their team, others want to be the smartest person at the water cooler, some want to dominate their fantasy league, and others still are writing their own gambling algorithms. Regardless, there is no going back now. Data has changed the game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tre Mac Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 I got no time for people that bitch about Thursday Night games, some of the best games have been on Thursday night since it's inception. And I love most of the Rush uniforms including most of the all white ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NucksPatsFan Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 7 hours ago, Chip Kelly said: Something tells me it's different when you are talking about a qb the size of a TE. I don't really think teammates would respect a big strong qb sliding and avoiding contact unlike when a smaller guy does it. I don't think the brain cares about the size of the rest of the body. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Boudreau Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 On 10/4/2019 at 7:04 AM, Tre Mac said: I got no time for people that bitch about Thursday Night games, some of the best games have been on Thursday night since it's inception. And I love most of the Rush uniforms including most of the all white ones. Actually a handful of the prime time games so far this year have been low scoring or boring to watch(one sided). Not singling out TNF. But they definitely have better matchups this year on paper than in previous iterations, which obviously helps. Last 2 weeks have been good competitive proper primetime worthy football games. MNF has been hit or miss for a few years now since they are still second priority to SNF when selecting games before the season. Plus they don't have the ability to flex games with underperforming teams or teams that are decimated by injuries off their schedule. I have found the early game or afternoon are just as good if not better than the SNF matchups as well so far. Though NBC is probably saving their flex scheduling for the last half of the season when playoff races tend to really pick up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUPERTKBD Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 There's still a half and a bit to play, but right now it looks like Gruden's decision to flay to London right after last week's game was smart. The Bears look very much like a jet lagged squad right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Pears Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 I mean y’all can go and rattle off 14 quick points to tie the game too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NucksPatsFan Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 Lol Hodges could’ve jumped on that ball but got too scared. Pulled a Newton in the super bowl 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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