peaches5 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 9 minutes ago, Alflives said: Not trolling. IMO Brady is playing old. His arm strength, and courage in the pocket are not what they used to be. That's normal for a player his age. Plus, he really misses Gronk. The Houston game is a perfect example of what happens when Brady throws quickly to the wrong guy. The receivers not named Edelman are getting beat 1 on 1. He has no trust that his receivers are going to make the play and if they get beat like they've been getting beat it's a pick 6. Every defense knows that if Edelman is off the board there is no one is going to make a big play. Sanu doesn't know the playbook well enough yet to be a threat. Defense's are taking away Edelman and then pressuring Brady and he has no where to throw the ball. These wide receivers have to start making plays especially N'keal, which he did last game then was robbed of a TD. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 7 minutes ago, peaches5 said: The Houston game is a perfect example of what happens when Brady throws quickly to the wrong guy. The receivers not named Edelman are getting beat 1 on 1. He has no trust that his receivers are going to make the play and if they get beat like they've been getting beat it's a pick 6. Every defense knows that if Edelman is off the board there is no one is going to make a big play. Sanu doesn't know the playbook well enough yet to be a threat. Defense's are taking away Edelman and then pressuring Brady and he has no where to throw the ball. These wide receivers have to start making plays especially N'keal, which he did last game then was robbed of a TD. Any QB struggles with pressure up the middle. Brady's age makes it so he can't move around in the pocket like he used to. Teams bring pressure up the middle, and Brady is done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 8 hours ago, filthycanuck said: Im not sure if Burrow is gonna do any good with the Bengals having a retard of a coach in Zack Taylor. Geez, 1st and goal on the 3, Mixon was averaging like 8-9yrds per carry at that time and you decide to PASS 3 times in a row (1st down being a sack). Many times the Bengals squandered near the goal line, I believe the loss is all on the coach Then you realize we’ve been in seven one score games which could have ended differently if not for injuries and poor QB play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peaches5 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 35 minutes ago, Alflives said: Any QB struggles with pressure up the middle. Brady's age makes it so he can't move around in the pocket like he used to. Teams bring pressure up the middle, and Brady is done. Brady never moved around in the pocket and he just ran for his longest run since 2014 in the Chiefs game. This has nothing to do with Brady declining it has to do with his receivers being trash and not having tight ends who can block so there is no run game. You can also throw in his centre has been on IR all year and there has been a huge whole up the middle which is another problem for the run game. If you actually watched the games you could see the Patriots aren't losing because Brady is declining. Troy Aikman said it a few games back these guys that Brady is throwing to are practice squad receivers, that are dropping passes and running poor routes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 11 minutes ago, peaches5 said: Brady never moved around in the pocket and he just ran for his longest run since 2014 in the Chiefs game. This has nothing to do with Brady declining it has to do with his receivers being trash and not having tight ends who can block so there is no run game. You can also throw in his centre has been on IR all year and there has been a huge whole up the middle which is another problem for the run game. If you actually watched the games you could see the Patriots aren't losing because Brady is declining. Troy Aikman said it a few games back these guys that Brady is throwing to are practice squad receivers, that are dropping passes and running poor routes. What does Troy Aikman know about being a QB that I don't? Brady used to move in the pocket. Not run. He's lost any quickness he had. Plus, his arm is not as strong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NucksPatsFan Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 2 hours ago, Alflives said: Not trolling. IMO Brady is playing old. His arm strength, and courage in the pocket are not what they used to be. That's normal for a player his age. Plus, he really misses Gronk. Launching the ball off your back foot for 50 yards is reduced arm strength? Okay. Don't disagree he misses Gronk. Romo did a fantastic job during the broadcast yesterday showing the Gronk effect on Edelman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NucksPatsFan Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 1 hour ago, Alflives said: Any QB struggles with pressure up the middle. Brady's age makes it so he can't move around in the pocket like he used to. Teams bring pressure up the middle, and Brady is done. Now we know you're not even watching the games Brady's 17 yard sack-avoid and run is the only reason they had one last throw to the endzone (fantastic play by the DB to bat it down over Edelman's shoulder) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 1 minute ago, NucksPatsFan said: Launching the ball off your back foot for 50 yards is reduced arm strength? Okay. Don't disagree he misses Gronk. Romo did a fantastic job during the broadcast yesterday showing the Gronk effect on Edelman. Zip on throws is arm strength. Throwing a ball 50 yards is not arm strength for an NFL QB. Brady can't hit the seam routes with zip, so the safeties can get to the balls now. His ball floats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NucksPatsFan Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 10 minutes ago, Alflives said: Zip on throws is arm strength. Throwing a ball 50 yards is not arm strength for an NFL QB. Brady can't hit the seam routes with zip, so the safeties can get to the balls now. His ball floats. I suggest putting the scotch down and going back and watching some of the past few games. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c00kies Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 1 hour ago, peaches5 said: Brady never moved around in the pocket and he just ran for his longest run since 2014 in the Chiefs game. This has nothing to do with Brady declining it has to do with his receivers being trash and not having tight ends who can block so there is no run game. You can also throw in his centre has been on IR all year and there has been a huge whole up the middle which is another problem for the run game. If you actually watched the games you could see the Patriots aren't losing because Brady is declining. Troy Aikman said it a few games back these guys that Brady is throwing to are practice squad receivers, that are dropping passes and running poor routes. Same thing with Wentz this year, as the wr can't catch and aren't running routes properly. Wentz has missed a few throws, but the receivers have to be way better. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 29 minutes ago, NucksPatsFan said: I suggest putting the scotch down and going back and watching some of the past few games. One of the parts of Brady's career IMO that makes him the GOAT was his ability to make average receivers appear good, or even great. Really, the only truly great receivers Brady ever had (that I recall) were Randy Moss and Gronk. The rest have been average at best. Even Edelman is only an average receiver, that Brady makes look much better than he really is. Now with Brady's diminishing arm strength, he's no able to make the throws to keep these average receivers looking good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NucksPatsFan Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 34 minutes ago, Alflives said: One of the parts of Brady's career IMO that makes him the GOAT was his ability to make average receivers appear good, or even great. Really, the only truly great receivers Brady ever had (that I recall) were Randy Moss and Gronk. The rest have been average at best. Even Edelman is only an average receiver, that Brady makes look much better than he really is. Now with Brady's diminishing arm strength, he's no able to make the throws to keep these average receivers looking good. The dude throws a perfect ball (with zip just for you) and it hits UDFA receiver Myers in the hands and he drops it. Can’t believe Brady made him drop it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toews Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 22 minutes ago, Alflives said: One of the parts of Brady's career IMO that makes him the GOAT was his ability to make average receivers appear good, or even great. Really, the only truly great receivers Brady ever had (that I recall) were Randy Moss and Gronk. The rest have been average at best. Even Edelman is only an average receiver, that Brady makes look much better than he really is. Now with Brady's diminishing arm strength, he's no able to make the throws to keep these average receivers looking good. So anyone who isn't first ballot HOF is average? Sorry Alf but that's just lazy. I think Brady's brilliance has overshadowed many of the good players that he has had in the past. Now that he doesn't have the talent around him, we are learning how integral certain players were in New England's success. Next year my prediction is Brady signs with the Chargers, with Antonio Brown also following him to LA. You heard it here first. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 9 minutes ago, NucksPatsFan said: The dude throws a perfect ball (with zip just for you) and it hits UDFA receiver Myers in the hands and he drops it. Can’t believe Brady made him drop it. Receivers drop balls. That happens. Johnny U, Terry B, and Joe M all aged out of the game. Brady is aging out. It happens to even the GOAT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van40 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Spying on the Bengals 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 17 minutes ago, Van40 said: Spying on the Bengals I can’t imagine why they’d feel the need to spy on a 1-12 team 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 35 minutes ago, Van40 said: Spying on the Bengals Could the Pats lose to the Bungles? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 hearing Brady is now using this magic rub to be ready for every game. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NucksPatsFan Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 36 minutes ago, Pears said: I can’t imagine why they’d feel the need to spy on a 1-12 team They had permission from the Browns and NFL to film for a NFL Films documentary but the Bengals scout freaked out “they’re spying on Dalton!” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 3 minutes ago, NucksPatsFan said: They had permission from the Browns and NFL to film for a NFL Films documentary but the Bengals scout freaked out “they’re spying on Dalton!” Same excuses during SpyGate? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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