Smashian Kassian Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 Smashian, you jump in and argue and yet you hadn't really thought about what I was saying - nor did you really listen. The Ilses owe Dipietro 36 million over 8 seasons. The cost of buying him out is $24 million (not 36 - and not 28). The cap hit also disappears. The Canucks essentially buy those picks. The question becomes what a first round pick is worth in $ - not a conventional question, but the fact is that things have changed, and there will in all likelihood be deals of this nature. Perhaps you should wait and see how the landscape has changed before you flame away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuretoMogilny Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 If both were possible I take Kadri and let him develop with kassian. We can get by with arnott or another small trade if need be. Kids got great talent and we don't have anyone with high end potential. Whether you believe in him or not. Bozak gives us an immediate bandaid but is really nothing special, where as Kadri has the top end potential to be. Not the ideal high potential prospect like huberdeau or nothing, but it's better than praying for Schroeder to be the next St. Louis lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 maybe they can send kadri to skating lessons at the burnaby winter club while he's in vancouver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 phaneuf won't fit anywhere in our lineup. he'd be on the 3rd pairing, like ballard with a bigger contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goblix Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 you gave three names as players that could have been given up on again by logic, one infers you are comparing the three to kadri - this is a FACT if you were not comparing them, why did you use their names? hmm..therefore comparing please don't attempt to write your lsat or go to law school, or do anything mathematically inclined, you will fail miserably. your mind doesn't work very logically, that is clear, you can't understand even your own comparisons/inferences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucks_Hockey_101 Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 Fetch us less? Let him play five games and he'll earn his rightful starting job back. Then Gillis can come to reality and trade Schneider. Trading him already would be the biggest mistake. I don't care if Lu goes to Toronto for Gardiner and two first picks... and chokes in t.o. and we c Schneider win 10 back to back cups and vezinas in the future. It's simply not the right choice to give the reigns of a team expectimg to compete for a cup to a guy who hasn't played a full season as a starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 Yes. Precisely. Here's how you make Phaneuf fit. You give the Leafs what he is worth - a mid level prospect. They retain half of his cap his and pay half of his salary. He then might make sense where he belongs - at 3.25 million and on the third pairing. Meh - forget it - still don't want the guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tearloch7 Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 If you get Phaneuf, you MAKE him fit. Ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boxiebrown Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 I don't know if Gillis wants to add another $4m winger (although Simmonds would be great w/ the twins - a speedy, physical version of Anson Carter that drops the gloves). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tearloch7 Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 Yes. Precisely. Here's how you make Phaneuf fit. You give the Leafs what he is worth - a mid level prospect. They retain half of his cap his and pay half of his salary. He then might make sense where he belongs - at 3.25 million and on the third pairing. Meh - forget it - still don't want the guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 I get what you are saying. I just can't understand how it would be beneficial to them to destroy there future that they are working so hard to build towards, just to get rid of one bad contract that isn't a huge negative factor right now anyways since they aren't a contender. Also your not taking into account the finacial situation in Long Island, as I said to someone else, Buyouts aren't as easy as they sound. Owner's don't generally like doing it because is just paying for your mistakes as GM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boxiebrown Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 Bryzgalov, 2011-12: 33-16-7, .909 SVP, 2.48 GAA, 6 SO Luongo, 2011-12: 31-14-8, .919 SVP, 2.41 GAA, 5 SO Look familiar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millerdraft Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 Oldnews, you let your Leaf hater blinders get in the way of some Leafs' actual value. I hope you're not serious about Phaneuf being worth a mid-level prospect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noheart Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 Not gonna happen. Fleury won the cup there - he is not going anywhere, anytime soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boxiebrown Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 What was so funny about what I said? I basically called Simmonds a 35g 60pt grinding winger with speed that drops the gloves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 You can't just waive away ten points of save percentage. That's a huge difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millerdraft Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 I should clarify that I really like Simmonds as a player. But again I must add.... LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 I love to hear the Flyers rumours! And can smell the Leaf desperation!!! Luongo, Ballard, Couturier, Coburn, 1st. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strombone1 Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 adater @adater Canucks would like to get Nicklas Grossman in any trade for Luongo. Unclear if Philly will go that far Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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