canucksnihilist Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 But never mind the facts, Jensen's on a 3 week tear OMG!! actually: being on a 3 week tear is a fact you mean past facts. thing about prospects is that they need to show potential. I think Jensen is showing potential again, so it's awesome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucksnihilist Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 That being said, if Gillis is entertaining the rumors of Kesler + Edler both leaving, then no, I keep Jensen and go with a full on youth movement, anchored by Hamhuis, Bieksa, Garrison, Luongo and the Sedin's to help mitigate the Oiler Effect. It is about the only plan that really makes sense right now... had a good run with this core, but they couldn't get it done - but was great entertainment and was tons of fun! so close! I really blame injuries - in my mind that 2010-11 team should have won the cup.... But the time to get a center / winger for Kesler is over, you'd have to give up a ton. You really have to draft these players, so few of them are available in trade / free agency. It's almost impossible to pry a player away unless they are having down years (and you can get burnt doing that - aka Booth) or on a team that they want to leave so they get a chance at a cup... (ahem).... The only way to get 6 legit top-6 is to draft most of them, and make trades for players before they have reached their potential. Jensen, Horvat, Shin, Gaunce, Fox. Corrado So we need a bunch more, but that is a good start (assuming that they don't all make it). Only way to really do it is a full youth movement and get a bunch of kids in here who have wheels, energy, and are in a good environment. We might miss the playoffs next year without Kesler and Edler (in addition to this year)... but with the D still relatively intact and the twins as mentors, you never know - depends on how the players dev and would be fun to see if any of them become impact players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucky_nucker Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 Keep Jensen. This team needs some youth to step up ASAP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 He's been good for 2 or 3 weeks all season and now all of a sudden he's untradable? He's scored 33 goals (1 every 3.54 games) and 12 assists (1 every 9.75 games) in 117 games (SWE + AHL). Is he even a top 100 NHL prospect? Of course I'd trade him if another team really valued him high. Sure I'd be thrilled if he translated at the NHL level but you have to look at the whole picture, not just one stat from the SEL and a 2-3 week scoring streak in the AHL. Save yourself the straw man act. Who said he's untradeable? What I said is that he's not going to be a principal in landing a player like Kane or Pavelski, but also that I doubt the Canucks would be looking to deal him regardless - he fits the needs of this organization very well - and moving prospects isn't exactly high among this team's priorities. Anyone can be dealt - but it's unlikely that Jensen is, and I'm fine with that - I'm certainly not prepared to underplay him as CDC wet blankets tend to. Your "whole picture" is amusing. If Utica played 21 games in two or three weeks I might take you more seriously, but ironically you're attempting to subsitute some exagerations as if you're somehow correcting people's optimism here. He had a great season as a teenager in the SEL, and now that he's healthy, he's had a couple months of lighting it up in the AHL. It is what it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmotamed Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 I don't know WHY the Sharks would EVER get rid of Pavelski... But yes, he would be my choice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBCanucks Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Mike Gillis has thrown away enough prospects and draft picks as is. No thanks. The only prospects we should be unloading are players like Schroeder and Sauve who clearly have no business playing at the NHL level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray_Cathode Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 No. Why trade a player with a future for immediate help on a team whose future for the next few years is likely out of the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 I would certainly trade him for the right return. Nobody's untouchable and certainly not him. That said, his value is not terribly high right now so it's doubtful he'd return much. As such his future potential is worth more to us than whatever paltry return we'd be likely to get for him. That pretty much = him not going anywhere. Not because we won't trade him but because it would be poor asset management. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salmonberries Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 God no. We don't even know what we have there yet. Far from it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spur1 Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 Hey....i would pretty much trade my grandmother if the price was right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 Bump. What now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KFBR392 Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 Stamkos + a 1st Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Magician Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 A player that can play now and a 2nd at least. Or a B prospect and a 1st. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxLapierreAwesomeFace Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 he's unproven, so we can't demand too muchat this point, i wouldn't want to trade him. period Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HockeyHound93 Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 I wouldn't trade him, I have a feeling he will become a very good player for us in the upcoming years. Plus I don't think we'd get much in return for him considering he's pretty unknown around the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Upshall18 Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 Trade him? Lets sign him to a 12 year 36 million contract. Sure he'll be getting more than he's worth the next few years but think about the other 8+ years! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gumballthechewy Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 Stamkos + a 1st Stamkos, Hedman and two 1st's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 Stamkos, Hedman and two 1st's. To start Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sting Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 Brandon Saad and a 1st or Boone Jenner and a 1st Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustABandwagoner Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 Crosby for Jensen But seriously, i would keep him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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