riffraff Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 1 hour ago, falcon45ca said: Do you do much stretching? I've found, for myself at least, that dedicated stretching time really helps prevent/ease any DOMS I used to experience. It's been quite awhile now since I've had any significant DOMS since I started my stretch routines. Sorry but what are Doms? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falcon45ca Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 Just now, riffraff said: Sorry but what are Doms? Delayed Onset Muscle Soreness, like if you crush legs and for the next day or so have muscle pain when walking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riffraff Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 3 minutes ago, falcon45ca said: Delayed Onset Muscle Soreness, like if you crush legs and for the next day or so have muscle pain when walking. Right right right. i haven't weight trained in a few years so haven't kept up on some of the lingo. i used to experience that in the early stages of leg days especially but not as much with regular training...maybe because I wasn't adding enough weight. all I do is run and swim now alternating days about 5-6 days per week...now I experience doms as you say, after runs if I don't stretch properly. interestingly I've stepped it up the last six months and have actually gained approx 4-5 lbs. im an outside worker (carpentry) so I'm burning calories all day and eating all day so I would suspect that this is a bit of a jump in muscle mass - hopefully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falcon45ca Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 16 minutes ago, riffraff said: Right right right. i haven't weight trained in a few years so haven't kept up on some of the lingo. i used to experience that in the early stages of leg days especially but not as much with regular training...maybe because I wasn't adding enough weight. all I do is run and swim now alternating days about 5-6 days per week...now I experience doms as you say, after runs if I don't stretch properly. interestingly I've stepped it up the last six months and have actually gained approx 4-5 lbs. im an outside worker (carpentry) so I'm burning calories all day and eating all day so I would suspect that this is a bit of a jump in muscle mass - hopefully. That's the name of the game! You have my gains-prayers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Monahan Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 48 minutes ago, falcon45ca said: Delayed Onset Muscle Soreness, like if you crush legs and for the next day or so have muscle pain when walking. I don't think it's DOMS until like 48+ hours post-workout. Until then it's just regular soreness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falcon45ca Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 6 minutes ago, Wild Sean Monahan said: I don't think it's DOMS until like 48+ hours post-workout. Until then it's just regular soreness. 24 hours and beyond is considered DOMS, but really I don't think you should ever be sore for more than an hour or so...you can be weaker for sure, but if you're walking around 6+ hours after a workout & you're in pain, I'd say you're in the early DOMS stages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Monahan Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 10 minutes ago, falcon45ca said: 24 hours and beyond is considered DOMS, but really I don't think you should ever be sore for more than an hour or so...you can be weaker for sure, but if you're walking around 6+ hours after a workout & you're in pain, I'd say you're in the early DOMS stages. Ah, couldn't remember the number but knew there was some sort of time frame for it. I think sometimes it's just unavoidable...Back in November I did deadlifts for the first time in probably a couple years and despite a decent cooldown on a stationary bike, foam rolling, and considerable stretching I was unbelievably sore for 2-3 days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falcon45ca Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 15 minutes ago, Wild Sean Monahan said: Ah, couldn't remember the number but knew there was some sort of time frame for it. I think sometimes it's just unavoidable...Back in November I did deadlifts for the first time in probably a couple years and despite a decent cooldown on a stationary bike, foam rolling, and considerable stretching I was unbelievably sore for 2-3 days. You're right about that! Especially since you can't really tell until after the workout that you're going to get DOMS, I've had workouts that felt really good at the time, and then I'm in pain the next day just picking up a glass of water! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Monahan Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 8 minutes ago, falcon45ca said: You're right about that! Especially since you can't really tell until after the workout that you're going to get DOMS, I've had workouts that felt really good at the time, and then I'm in pain the next day just picking up a glass of water! Personally I enjoy some good soreness. Soreness in the legs can kinda suck but I enjoy the soreness from a good back workout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiggs50 Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 12 hours ago, Wild Sean Monahan said: Personally I enjoy some good soreness. Soreness in the legs can kinda suck but I enjoy the soreness from a good back workout. I decided to deadlift and squat on the same day last week. Literally crawled outta bed. The pain! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MusclePharm Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 2 hours ago, Jiggs50 said: I decided to deadlift and squat on the same day last week. Literally crawled outta bed. The pain! I squat and deadlift on the same day 3 times a week you get used to it after a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiggs50 Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 36 minutes ago, MusclePharm said: I squat and deadlift on the same day 3 times a week you get used to it after a while. Damn! I used to do it twice a week, a while back. Trying to get back into that routine. Btw how heavy are you going? What's your sets and rep range? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MusclePharm Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 2 hours ago, Jiggs50 said: Damn! I used to do it twice a week, a while back. Trying to get back into that routine. Btw how heavy are you going? What's your sets and rep range? 3x3 for squat and i work up to 1×3 deadlift one a week. The other two days i go a little lighter but more volume, 5x7 for squat and 3x5 on deadlifts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Monahan Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 Good video, and relevant for many of us. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falcon45ca Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 2 hours ago, Wild Sean Monahan said: Good video, and relevant for many of us. His videos helped me solve my shoulder pain issue, great fitness channel! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReggieBush Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 6x5 at 80% bench today. I'm done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NucksPatsFan Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 (edited) Starting a month of Cory Gregory's interwoven anabolic diet/intermittent fasting eating plan called his anabolic diet on Monday. Should be fun times. Accidentally fasted for 20 hours yesterday (ate at 8pm Monday night, slept in Tuesday morning and ran out the door without eating and my wallet, couldn't buy food all day, didn't get home until 4pm Tuesday afternoon). I was feeling quite delirious around noon on Tuesday, but I also did a field based max VO2 test around 10:30am so burned a lot of calories which contributes. Going to do the 12-8 eating window. Should be fine hopefully. I train at 5:15am every morning so I can have my BCAA's post workout, have some black coffee around 9am to curb hunger, and look forward to noon. I'm most excited about the 8pm insulin spike with the peanut butter banana haha. Anyone have experience with intermittent fasting? Edit: Reason for doing this: I trained at about 11-12% BF up until December, and after going through some personal stuff mixed in with holidays, I shot up to 15.5%bf (Measured via 7 site skinfold test done by the same tester). Trained at, and currently this week training at the 14.5-15.5% BF but going to start a pre-cut with this month of anabolic fasting. I usually don't start cutting for summer until April, but this is just a way for me to use my own body as a test subject to see if this anabolic fasting works, and if it does, I'll use it again for my April/May cut. Edited February 24, 2016 by NucksPatsFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Monahan Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 Similar to NucksPatsFan, has anybody ever tried carb cycling? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonMexico Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 6 minutes ago, NucksPatsFan said: Starting a month of Cory Gregory's interwoven anabolic diet/intermittent fasting eating plan called his anabolic diet on Monday. Should be fun times. Accidentally fasted for 20 hours yesterday (ate at 8pm Monday night, slept in Tuesday morning and ran out the door without eating and my wallet, couldn't buy food all day, didn't get home until 4pm Tuesday afternoon). I was feeling quite delirious around noon on Tuesday, but I also did a field based max VO2 test around 10:30am so burned a lot of calories which contributes. Going to do the 12-8 eating window. Should be fine hopefully. I train at 5:15am every morning so I can have my BCAA's post workout, have some black coffee around 9am to curb hunger, and look forward to noon. I'm most excited about the 8pm insulin spike with the peanut butter banana haha. Anyone have experience with intermittent fasting? I haven't followed this thread but for some reason I clicked on it and I have a question for you. Are you doing this for competition prep? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NucksPatsFan Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 28 minutes ago, RonMexico said: I haven't followed this thread but for some reason I clicked on it and I have a question for you. Are you doing this for competition prep? I could never have the time, or diet strictness to ever compete haha. I train and workout 60% for sports performance (even though it's beer league or nothing option for hockey, still play in the A div's so it's pretty competitive) 15% for personal achievements of lifting as many pounds over body weight I can, and 15% to look the best [aesthetically] that I can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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