viking mama Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 To COL- Edler + low pick/ mid-prospect To VAN- O'Reilly **Note** Colorado frees up cap space in this deal To NYR- Hansen, 2nd rd pick 2015 To VAN- Del Zotto resign key players AND GIVE ROOKIES A CHANCE Re-think ^ that part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbyg43 Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 http://canucksarmy.com/2014/1/17/are-the-sedin-twins-old-and-useless-now-well-no-but It past midnight the slipper has fallen off an there are no answers to power play even strength scoring,and scoring in general a new jersey style trap in nuetral zone kills us.team speed is no longer a factor an fat contracts for players not really capable of competing in west.if we are not serious about grabing O'Rielly or a stashny or kane. It s time to sell off some parts an ready for summer retool, if we can keep Kesler an find hom one line mate an throw horvat on line next yr we may compete, come on Mike Gillis no more band aide fixes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbyg43 Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 http://canucksarmy.com/2014/1/17/are-the-sedin-twins-old-and-useless-now-well-no-but It past midnight the slipper has fallen off an there are no answers to power play even strength scoring,and scoring in general a new jersey style trap in nuetral zone kills us.team speed is no longer a factor an fat contracts for players not really capable of competing in west.if we are not serious about grabing O'Rielly or a stashny or kane. It s time to sell off some parts an ready for summer retool, if we can keep Kesler an find hom one line mate an throw horvat on line next yr we may compete, come on Mike Gillis no more band aide fixes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbyg43 Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 Sorry bout that one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwsnipes Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 Pears Canucks Franchise PlayerMembers13,998 posts Joined:13-November 11 Posted 16 January 2014 - 04:20 PM POPULAR Edler for O'Reilly Booth, 2nd for Campbell at 50% Tanev, Hansen, Jensen, 1st, 2nd for Kane in the summer Roster outline for next year Sedin - Sedin - Kesler Kane - O'Reilly - Burrows Higgins - Horvat - Kassian Gaunce - Richardson - Santorelli Hamhuis - Bieksa Campbell - Garrison Stanton - Corrado Luongo Lack Yes please. That's the type of 'rebuild on the fly' we need. Edited by Pears, 16 January 2014 - 04:26 PM. Roster outline for next year Kane - O'Reilly - Kesler Sedin - Sedin - Burrows Higgins - Horvat - Kassian Richardson - Lain - Santorelli Campbell - Garrison Hamhuis - Bieksa Stanton - Corrado Luongo Lack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis15 Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 ��������☎️ Pears ... What the?... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drakrami Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 Edler for O'Reilly Booth, 2nd for Campbell at 50% Tanev, Hansen, Jensen, 1st, 2nd for Kane in the summer Roster outline for next year Sedin - Sedin - Kesler Kane - O'Reilly - Burrows Higgins - Horvat - Kassian Gaunce - Richardson - Santorelli Hamhuis - Bieksa Campbell - Garrison Stanton - Corrado Luongo Lack Yes please. That's the type of 'rebuild on the fly' we need. Trading for star players is the opposite of rebuilding, by the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanucksSayEh Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 Trading for star players is the opposite of rebuilding, by the way. When they're barely drinking age, it kind of is. Changes the whole team, a lot better than tanking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexEdler11 Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 we seriously need O'Reilly. Team needs a shake up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck or Die Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 If we can get O'Reilly for Edler, then we should do it. We can't have all this money tied up in our defense and have them play like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMapleLaughs Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 We passed on ROR to draft Schroeder. True story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 The Canucks have dealt with injuries to Edler, Stanton, Alberts, Tanev, and now Bieksa. Dealing a blueliner for a forward is a bad idea. Years (not just this year) of experience tell us this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis15 Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 We passed on ROR to draft Schroeder. True story. Detroit picked Landon Ferraro one spot ahead of O'Reilly. Carolina picked Philippe Paradis at 27th overall. Dallas picked Scott Glennie at 8th. Your point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.53 Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 If we did acquire him, wouldn't we have to qualify him at 6.5 mill this summer if we wanted to retain his restricted free agent status? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMapleLaughs Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Detroit picked Landon Ferraro one spot ahead of O'Reilly. Carolina picked Philippe Paradis at 27th overall. Dallas picked Scott Glennie at 8th. Your point? I'd rather have Landon Ferraro btw. But the Canucks picked a 2nd or 3rd round undersized type of player in the first round and then started pointing at Martin St. Louis. As if Martin St. Louis is the norm. ROR came straight from junior into the league. I'm not sure how he fell so far in the first place. Oh wait, it's because the draft is rigged. I guess the point is that we could've easily had ROR, who was a much better pick at the time, for free instead of having us talk about spending large trade-wise to get him now. I don't see Schroeder finishing his career as a Canuck certainly. I'm wondering why we drafted him in the first place. Tired of the obvious bad picks being propped up by our 'there, there, he's not THAT weak' reasoning by those who had a love-in for Kyle Wellwood. But hey I could be wrong here and Schroeder will become the next Martin St. Louis for us. (Not bloody likely.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pouria Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 I'd rather have Landon Ferraro btw. But the Canucks picked a 2nd or 3rd round undersized type of player in the first round and then started pointing at Martin St. Louis. As if Martin St. Louis is the norm. ROR came straight from junior into the league. I'm not sure how he fell so far in the first place. Oh wait, it's because the draft is rigged. I guess the point is that we could've easily had ROR, who was a much better pick at the time, for free instead of having us talk about spending large trade-wise to get him now. I don't see Schroeder finishing his career as a Canuck certainly. I'm wondering why we drafted him in the first place. Tired of the obvious bad picks being propped up by our 'there, there, he's not THAT weak' reasoning by those who had a love-in for Kyle Wellwood. But hey I could be wrong here and Schroeder will become the next Martin St. Louis for us. (Not bloody likely.) What the hell are you talking about? Many scouts had Schroeder in the top 10 and in fact many "experts" including those here on CDC said we had a steal picking him 24th in the 1st round. But now, after many years, you come to the conclusion he is a bust even though he hasn't played much? Its easy to say we should've picked O'Reilly now that he is proven while Schroeder is not, any idiot could tell us that. Maybe you should be the scout next time and pick for the Canucks, then we will call you an idiot when the guy busts. Hindsight is 20/20... PS..We could've also drafted Datsyuk, Lidstrom, Zetterberg, Kopitar, Nischushkin etc. Just imagine, we could've been a dynasty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 I'd rather have Landon Ferraro btw. But the Canucks picked a 2nd or 3rd round undersized type of player in the first round and then started pointing at Martin St. Louis. As if Martin St. Louis is the norm. ROR came straight from junior into the league. I'm not sure how he fell so far in the first place. Oh wait, it's because the draft is rigged. I guess the point is that we could've easily had ROR, who was a much better pick at the time, for free instead of having us talk about spending large trade-wise to get him now. I don't see Schroeder finishing his career as a Canuck certainly. I'm wondering why we drafted him in the first place. Tired of the obvious bad picks being propped up by our 'there, there, he's not THAT weak' reasoning by those who had a love-in for Kyle Wellwood. But hey I could be wrong here and Schroeder will become the next Martin St. Louis for us. (Not bloody likely.) I recall Calgary saying the exact same thing About Martin St Louis before they just let him go. And then cried themselves to sleep a few short years later as he lit them up in the finals while hosting a cup over a bed of their fallen tears Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pouria Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 I recall Calgary saying the exact same thing About Martin St Louis before they just let him go. And then cried themselves to sleep a few short years later as he lit them up in the finals while hosting a cup over a bed of their fallen tears Maybe Schroeder is a late bloomer and will show us his Martin St. Louis side very soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Maybe Schroeder is a late bloomer and will show us his Martin St. Louis side very soon. Took marty a few years to really break out. He was written off really quickly by more than a few people and he didn't enter the league as a young rookie either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMapleLaughs Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 What the hell are you talking about? Many scouts had Schroeder in the top 10 and in fact many "experts" including those here on CDC said we had a steal picking him 24th in the 1st round. But now, after many years, you come to the conclusion he is a bust even though he hasn't played much? Its easy to say we should've picked O'Reilly now that he is proven while Schroeder is not, any idiot could tell us that. Maybe you should be the scout next time and pick for the Canucks, then we will call you an idiot when the guy busts. Hindsight is 20/20... PS..We could've also drafted Datsyuk, Lidstrom, Zetterberg, Kopitar, Nischushkin etc. Just imagine, we could've been a dynasty. I'm saying the 'experts' who overlooked his size here were drinking too much Canuck koolaid. 'He was a steal!' No he wasn't. He fell in the draft for a good reason. (Just like Shinkaruk did. And look, Shinkaruk has a major injury shortly afterwards. Apparently he was hurting when we drafted him. Hooray, what a steal!) Shroeder needed elite... elite... skill to pan out as an effective undersized scorer in the NHL and he doesn't have that. Hell, he can't even turn quickly with nobody around him without falling down. So what's his role going to be? Showcased tradebait? Oh, wow. And it's always 'well, dats hindsight.' Is it though? Not really. To me the problem is the Canucks' lack of foresight at the time. We had simply drafted the wrong player, based on size alone. Not all their fault though, as the draft is rigged. But i could do without the shill work on an obviously horrendous draft pick, year after year after year. I'm no scouting expert, but if an undersized guy falls and falls and falls in the draft, yeah, i'm going to PASS!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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