Mr.53 Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 My feelings have kinda changed (thats an old post you quoted) I would be fine with Reinhart, but Ekblad IMO has the highest potential in the draft, only player out of the top 5 with true franchise player potential IMO, but who knows if he hits it or becomes a decent #1/2 like Johnson. I got you. I personally still think Reinhart has the biggest ceiling but I can understand why people think Ekblad does. Still, I know GMs have to be thinking the same thing. Last year Nathan Mackinnon outplaying Seth Jones didn't help either. But I got you. I guess we will all see in a couple of days who goes where anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilovekevinbieksa Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Just curious but why hasn't Perlini been in the discussion much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnLocke Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 My feelings have kinda changed (thats an old post you quoted) I would be fine with Reinhart, but Ekblad IMO has the highest potential in the draft, only player out of the top 5 with true franchise player potential IMO, but who knows if he hits it or becomes a decent #1/2 like Johnson. Ekblad doesn't have franchise potential IMO. He'll most likely be a #2 or even a #3 defenceman on a cup contender. A good example would be Seabrook or Bouwmeester. He is a really solid prospect but he doesn't have the "wow" factor of elite defencemen such as Doughty or Weber. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sedintwinpowersactivate Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 If the Canucks keep the #6 pick they will pick either Ehlers or Nylander if they believe either of those players will pan out to be 1st liners. If they don't believe Ehlers or Nylander will be future 1st liners and maybe 2nd liners than look for them to draft Ritchie or Virtanen. It all depends on what JB is thinking. Note: This is not to say Ritchie or Virtanen can't achieve 1st line status... nobody knows the future development of these players... it only matters what JB thinks their development will be! First line skill > Second line size/grit/skill > Second line skill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canorth Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 If the Canucks keep the #6 pick they will pick either Ehlers or Nylander if they believe either of those players will pan out to be 1st liners. If they don't believe Ehlers or Nylander will be future 1st liners and maybe 2nd liners than look for them to draft Ritchie or Virtanen. It all depends on what JB is thinking. Note: This is not to say Ritchie or Virtanen can't achieve 1st line status... nobody knows the future development of these players... it only matters what JB thinks their development will be! First line skill > Second line size/grit/skill > Second line skill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Ekblad doesn't have franchise potential IMO. He'll most likely be a #2 or even a #3 defenceman on a cup contender. A good example would be Seabrook or Bouwmeester. He is a really solid prospect but he doesn't have the "wow" factor of elite defencemen such as Doughty or Weber. I disagree, I'm not saying he's going to be the next Weber, but I think he has the most potential out of anyone in the draft to be a franchise player. If he can become that or not who knows, it might seem unlikely. And how about his shot for wow factor? 25 goals or something like that this season, pretty impressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BananaMash Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 I disagree, I'm not saying he's going to be the next Weber, but I think he has the most potential out of anyone in the draft to be a franchise player. If he can become that or not who knows, it might seem unlikely. And how about his shot for wow factor? 25 goals or something like that this season, pretty impressive. You still run a huge risk drafting a defender that early. I do like Ekblad, but our most nagging need at the moment seems to be a successor to the Sedins. Our prospect cupboard is pretty bare everywhere, so I think it just comes down to what the team thinks is going to need to be replaced earlier. I think it's going to be the Sedins looking at how their production is trending. Our defensive core isn't that old (but does need work, I will admit that). I wouldn't mind grabbing a defender in the 2nd round, and then another in 2015. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PowerAids Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 First line skill > Second line size/grit/skill > Second line skill Well said man, I agree. I will trust whatever JB decides between Ehlers nylander Virtanen and Ritchie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plum Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 I got you. I personally still think Reinhart has the biggest ceiling but I can understand why people think Ekblad does. Still, I know GMs have to be thinking the same thing. Last year Nathan Mackinnon outplaying Seth Jones didn't help either. But I got you. I guess we will all see in a couple of days who goes where anyway Well Murray outplayed Yakupov so there's that. Ekblad doesn't have franchise potential IMO. He'll most likely be a #2 or even a #3 defenceman on a cup contender. A good example would be Seabrook or Bouwmeester. He is a really solid prospect but he doesn't have the "wow" factor of elite defencemen such as Doughty or Weber. I think Ekblad has franchise potential, he has the skating ability, doesn't take himself out of the position, very smart player and has a hard shot. He doesn't have the wow factor but he does everything right at a high level, he was our best defenceman at the WJC. So much poise and smarts in his game it seems like whenever he's on the ice the opposing team won't score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BanTSN Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Does TB regret not drafting Doughty over Stamkos? With a Hedman/Doughty pairing they'd be an epic defensive force for two decades. And then they can work with guys like Drouin instead of Stamkos for offense. I like Stamkos, but Doughty is a far more important player. Ekblad>Reinhart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
73 Percent Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Does TB regret not drafting Doughty over Stamkos? With a Hedman/Doughty pairing they'd be an epic defensive force for two decades. And then they can work with guys like Drouin instead of Stamkos for offense. I like Stamkos, but Doughty is a far more important player. Ekblad>Reinhart. disagree. stamkos has a 60 and a 50 goal season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustyShackleford Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Does TB regret not drafting Doughty over Stamkos? With a Hedman/Doughty pairing they'd be an epic defensive force for two decades. And then they can work with guys like Drouin instead of Stamkos for offense. I like Stamkos, but Doughty is a far more important player. Ekblad>Reinhart. LMFAO WUT??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gstank29 Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Does TB regret not drafting Doughty over Stamkos? With a Hedman/Doughty pairing they'd be an epic defensive force for two decades. And then they can work with guys like Drouin instead of Stamkos for offense. I like Stamkos, but Doughty is a far more important player. Ekblad>Reinhart. If tampa regerts drafting Stamkos, they should have the privilege of having Stamkos on their team stripped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baumerman77 Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Does TB regret not drafting Doughty over Stamkos? With a Hedman/Doughty pairing they'd be an epic defensive force for two decades. And then they can work with guys like Drouin instead of Stamkos for offense. I like Stamkos, but Doughty is a far more important player. Ekblad>Reinhart. You're probably right. Knowing what we know now, Doughty would likely go before Stamkos. That being said, it is generally a much safer route to draft a forward over a defencemen in that situation. In the past 30 or so years how many D-men drafted 1-2 have been top 5 overall defenceman in the league? I can think of Doughty and Pronger. There is probably a couple more too. But it is much safer to take the top forward. I would consider Ekblad for the Canucks if it wasn't for our current D situation. With 4 NTC and Tanev and Corrado on the way up. Reinhart could turn out to be a Toews. Reinhart has taken 41 PIM in 232 Games that is unreal. As an undrafted player he was on Canada's WJC first unit 5on3 PK (the only forward) that is impressive. His draft year PPG are better than RNH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMapleLaughs Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Hard to argue against Doughty. Standout on two gold medal and cup winning teams. And i don't even him. Wasn't he accused of rape? Not sure. Wouldn't mind Ekblad if we landed McDavid or Eichel next year. But i think the Canucks will try very, very hard to screw themselves out of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UFCanuck Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Does TB regret not drafting Doughty over Stamkos? With a Hedman/Doughty pairing they'd be an epic defensive force for two decades. And then they can work with guys like Drouin instead of Stamkos for offense. I like Stamkos, but Doughty is a far more important player. Ekblad>Reinhart. They wouldn't have Drouin to work with if they didn't draft Stamkos. The Future would most definitely been altered, obviously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absent Canuck Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 My feelings have kinda changed (thats an old post you quoted) I would be fine with Reinhart, but Ekblad IMO has the highest potential in the draft, only player out of the top 5 with true franchise player potential IMO, but who knows if he hits it or becomes a decent #1/2 like Johnson. I agree but we would never draft Ekblad. We would trade up to get Reinhart. So perhaps we could trade down to 2 or 3 for Reinhart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
73 Percent Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 I agree but we would never draft Ekblad. We would trade up to get Reinhart. So perhaps we could trade down to 2 or 3 for Reinhart.I had yhis same idea. then elvis tore me a new one for thinking such a thought Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absent Canuck Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 I had yhis same idea. then elvis tore me a new one for thinking such a thought We are used to it by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
73 Percent Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 We are used to it by now. I dunno I thought it was a good idea. I think most teams would draft AE over sam so why not threaten to draft AE and gain a small asset from buffalo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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