surtur Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 CRAZY TIMES BRO'S! Really hoping MG gets this retool/build on the right track. Make or break week for Canucks as an organization. I am not expecting anything big to go down but you gotta think with the top end talent that could be up for grabs from the nucks in Lu , Kesler, Edler if 1 or all three end up traded this could be a very very different team after the trade deadline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Standing_Tall#37 Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 he never tires of making an absolute douche of himself. He was in Sochi....were you? I mean it could be 100% true, but it doesn't mean Healy is any less of a douchebag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karlsson`s Flo Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 Renaud Lavoie ‏@LavoieRenaud 1m The Canucks goal is to trade Ryan Kesler next week but not for cheap. If the right offer doesn't come, he'll finish the season in Vancouver. Well we aren't trying to give away our best players for nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyAL Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 I hear some people say better to make this deal at draft or in the summer at some point, having more time to max out the deal, it makes some sense. You also have to consider it is very possible a team is willing to pay more now vs in the summer, if I'm a contender having his rights for 3 playoff runs vs 2 is significant.....it's a hmmmmmmmmmmmer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millerdraft Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 As mentioned, this is my opinion, based on the rumours and speculation out there. Kesler is a first line center (USA 1st line center), recent selke winner, top 2-way forward. They rarely make it to the open market. As mentioned, if someone wants him, they will have to overpay. The speculated offer by Pits was Sutter & Pouliot, and we don't know what else. Pouliot being one of their top 2 prospects. Therefore I counter with what i want. If they don't match, i trade Kesler to their competition. How would Pits like it if they had to face him on the playoffs playing for Phili, Detroit, Boston, NYR, Montreal, etc. simply put; overpay with prospect and get the chance to win the cup, or face: Phili: Kesler, Lecavalier, Scheen/Couturier Boston: Krejci, Bergeron, Kesler Detroit: Datsyuk, Kesler NYR: Richards, Kesler, Brassard/Stephan Do you understand now how my opinion was formed and why if they want him, they will overpay and that package is realistic. Same thing goes for Elder, If Phili doesn't want to pay that package, we trade Edler to Ottawa, or someone else fighting for the 8th position. Please keep in mind that despite the opinion of many fans, Edler is a top 2 dman. He was on the top pairing with Karlson for Sweden. We are in no hurry to trade him either. The package i proposed is mainly for B.Schenn and Laughton. I don't see L.Scheen as anything special. Why do i think Phili would overpay? Streit is 36 with a 5.25 mill. cap hit. Timonen is 38 and a UFA. cap hit 6 mill. Pronger - no comment Coburn is top 4 dman with a 4.5 mil cap hit. Meszaros is not worth the 4 mill cap hit. and you're left with Grossman, Gustafsson, and L. Schenn. Only Gustafsson and L. Schenn are younger than Edler. The need an Edler type dmen for this year, and the next few years to be their top 2 dman. Teams don't make 5-year decisions based simply on one season's standings, but other than that I agree that the return better be huge for both Kesler and Edler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 Well we aren't trying to give away our best players for nothing. It's nice to know "not for cheap" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thad Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 That wouldn't be a start to our rebuild, that would be our rebuild. Add two young star forwards and 3 1st round picks to our already decent prospect pool, then fill in the gaps with the massive amount of cap space we would have, and we would be in very good shape. Not to mention the biggest prospect pool ever to wheel and deal from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 He was in Sochi....were you? I mean it could be 100% true, but it doesn't mean Healy is any less of a douchebag. No I wasn't in Sochi, nor am I pretending to speak on behalf of everyone and anyone who would listen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millerdraft Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 I hope the reason that all of these reports are flying around is because there are multiple transactions happening and it is tricky to coordinate them. I won't hold my breath though. Think that old rumoured Luongo/LeCavalier swap might actually happen in order to facilitate the rest of the deal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karlsson`s Flo Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 He was in Sochi....were you? I mean it could be 100% true, but it doesn't mean Healy is any less of a douchebag. Regardless, Healy has a horrible reputation for exaggerating things. I still take whatever he says with a teaspoon of salt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 Then we can laugh at Buffalo and Oiler fans for DECADES haha With Buffalo's 16 picks in the first 3 rounds since 2011 and 11 total picks in the first two rounds this year and in 2015....hard to laugh at them. even they'll be able to hit at least 1 homerun out of all of that insanity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 Regardless, Healy has a horrible reputation for exaggerating things. I still take whatever he says with a teaspoon of salt. Like....his career? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theminister Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 Think that old rumoured Luongo/LeCavalier swap might actually happen in order to facilitate the rest of the deal? i think that's a definite possibility at this point. I can easily imagine that would be a domino that would need to fall first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lui's Knob Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 CRAZY TIMES BRO'S! Really hoping MG gets this retool/build on the right track. If it's all in it could make or break them for the next decade Make or break week for Canucks as an organization. Sadly it's the only exciting thing the Canucks have done in 3 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 i think that's a definite possibility at this point. I can easily imagine that would be a domino that would need to fall first. 3 years ago that's a great deal. Now it looks ugly indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millerdraft Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 3 years ago that's a great deal. Now it looks ugly indeed. I agree but if it enables the rest of the deal to happen, for the pieces we actually want (Brayden Schenn, 2015 1st round pick, etc), great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thad Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 I don't want to make a thread but you guys gotta see this sports announcers call on the replay of this goal lol same goal grapes just showed on hnic http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/83914238/ Sorry for being off topic but it's pretty hilarious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theminister Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 3 years ago that's a great deal. Now it looks ugly indeed. It depends on what the total deal is. If it's true that they're willing eat some of his cap it could facilitate a few pieces going either way. This would make sense to me to offset the cap recapture of Luongo. Vinny as a 3rd liner, assuming we're paying him that, might not be too bad. This, of course, would be predicated on adding a top 6 or two with or without moving Kesler. It may even be possible that we take Vinny at a cut price to use him as a buyout for Philly considering they have none left. That's a potential big card that could be played here. I think just getting out from under this rock would be a good start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyAL Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 how does Lecavalier even land that contract coming off a buy out? Who ever his agent is he needs to give him a bonus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tangerines Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 Looks like Couturier may be off the table. I don't know about you guys but I'm really liking the sounds of Wennberg, 1st(2014), and one of Dubinsky/Jenner for Kes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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