van_ws Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 53 minutes ago, Wilbur said: Sigh, this offense is beyond pathetic. And just like clockwork they load the bases against a struggling pitcher and can't score any runs. Garbage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mj2345 Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 Kirk replacing Jansen here in the 6th 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 Jays hit with the bases loaded challenge (really hard). 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 Jays lose. 1 issue/problem that is starting to aggravate me. Why won't a lot of the Jays actually run/hustle to first base? most recent example 1 out top of ninth, Vladdy hits the ball up the middle, pitcher takes a swipe at it, but it goes past him and the Second base? man grabs it and throws to first. Camera follows the throw and we get to see Valddy loping up the baseline. Perhaps if he's running faster, the extra speed, along with the visual distraction of the pitcher missing the ball, causes a high throw, and Vlad reaches first.? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Korea Bob.Loblaw Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 19 minutes ago, Pears said: Jays hit with the bases loaded challenge (really hard). Oh the bases are loaded for Jays? Time for a potty break nothing to see here 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mj2345 Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 A serious Lack of baseball this week on SN, I’ll watch football tonight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 3 minutes ago, Gurn said: Jays lose. 1 issue/problem that is starting to aggravate me. Why won't a lot of the Jays actually run/hustle to first base? most recent example 1 out top of ninth, Vladdy hits the ball up the middle, pitcher takes a swipe at it, but it goes past him and the Second base? man grabs it and throws to first. Camera follows the throw and we get to see Valddy loping up the baseline. Perhaps if he's running faster, the extra speed, along with the visual distraction of the pitcher missing the ball, causes a high throw, and Vlad reaches first.? About a month ago we saw Elly De La Cruz turn a routine ground out into an infield hit simply with a little hustle. Now granted EDLC is much faster than Vladdy will ever be but just show at least a little effort especially being down a run in the top of the 9th. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 2 minutes ago, Mj2345 said: A serious Lack of baseball this week on SN, I’ll watch football tonight think there is an NFL pre season game, as well as Bomber at Elks in the CFL. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mj2345 Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 1 minute ago, Gurn said: think there is an NFL pre season game, as well as Bomber at Elks in the CFL. Yep CFL on TSN Vikings/Seahawks on NBC and TSN2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Korea Bob.Loblaw Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 5 minutes ago, Gurn said: Jays lose. 1 issue/problem that is starting to aggravate me. Why won't a lot of the Jays actually run/hustle to first base? most recent example 1 out top of ninth, Vladdy hits the ball up the middle, pitcher takes a swipe at it, but it goes past him and the Second base? man grabs it and throws to first. Camera follows the throw and we get to see Valddy loping up the baseline. Perhaps if he's running faster, the extra speed, along with the visual distraction of the pitcher missing the ball, causes a high throw, and Vlad reaches first.? 4 minutes ago, Pears said: About a month ago we saw Elly De La Cruz turn a routine ground out into an infield hit simply with a little hustle. Now granted EDLC is much faster than Vladdy will ever be but just show at least a little effort especially being down a run in the top of the 9th. I am in the camp of not risking injury for a play that they have little chance. It's one thing to leg out a slow, high grounder and get an infield single. It's another thing to try and force an error on the defender. It's well established that Rafael Devers is the worst defender in baseball. He has 14 errors this year. That is a fielding percentage of... .947%. The odds of getting on base via error is much lower than you'd think. Vladdy isn't a rookie. He can probably tell when he won't make it. The risk of a pulled hamstring isn't worth tiny chance of a reward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 13 minutes ago, Pears said: About a month ago we saw Elly De La Cruz turn a routine ground out into an infield hit simply with a little hustle. Now granted EDLC is much faster than Vladdy will ever be but just show at least a little effort especially being down a run in the top of the 9th. Personally I'd be benching anyone who didn't hustle out of the box until the team culture changes, but I'm a pretty old-school guy regarding effort in professional sports. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Korea Bob.Loblaw Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shiznak Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 (edited) 7 hours ago, Gurn said: Jays lose. 1 issue/problem that is starting to aggravate me. Why won't a lot of the Jays actually run/hustle to first base? most recent example 1 out top of ninth, Vladdy hits the ball up the middle, pitcher takes a swipe at it, but it goes past him and the Second base? man grabs it and throws to first. Camera follows the throw and we get to see Valddy loping up the baseline. Perhaps if he's running faster, the extra speed, along with the visual distraction of the pitcher missing the ball, causes a high throw, and Vlad reaches first.? I think I’d rather not risk Vladdy getting injured on a play he has no business beating out. I mean, how many times have we seen him hustle around the bags, trying to stretch a single into a double. Only to get thrown out by a mile? Edited August 11, 2023 by shiznak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 1 minute ago, shiznak said: I think I’d rather not risk Vladdy getting injured on a play he has no business beating out. I mean, how many times have we seen him hustle around the bags, trying to stretch a single to a double. Only to get thrown out by a mile? bottom of the ninth, team behind by a run. 90 feet, shouldn't be too hard for a professional athlete to run. If the fielder double clutches, it would have been a close play- had Vlad been trying. I'd prefer that he actually runs, not lopes or jogs. Also- this is not just a Vladdy issue, but a few too many of them do the same thing. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUPERTKBD Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 17 hours ago, Pears said: About a month ago we saw Elly De La Cruz turn a routine ground out into an infield hit simply with a little hustle. Now granted EDLC is much faster than Vladdy will ever be but just show at least a little effort especially being down a run in the top of the 9th. We saw it in the series against the Guardians too... Can't remember which player it was, but he hit a grounder more or less right at DeJong, who was playing pretty deep at Short. The ball wasn't hit particularly hard and DeJong took his time with the throw....it was a close play at first and the guy was called safe. (Full disclosure: I think that might have been the play that was overturned on review, but the point remains) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUPERTKBD Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 Either way, I don't believe a lack of hustle is what's hurting the Jays.... It's the same as it has been all season long....a miserable job of hitting with RISP.... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 2 hours ago, RUPERTKBD said: Either way, I don't believe a lack of hustle is what's hurting the Jays.... It's the same as it has been all season long....a miserable job of hitting with RISP.... Interweb can be funny, I just spent 10 minutes looking for Jays risp and could only find a .243 for the team, but no individual stats Oh, well time for my daily walk with Mom. I might search again later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 2 hours ago, RUPERTKBD said: Either way, I don't believe a lack of hustle is what's hurting the Jays.... It's the same as it has been all season long....a miserable job of hitting with RISP.... It's about buying in as a team. Working pitch counts and trying for a higher batting average instead of swinging for the fences. The lack of hustle is a symptom of a culture that isn't what's needed to win when it matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedestroyerofworlds Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 https://www.sportsnet.ca/mlb/article/blue-jays-option-alek-manoah-to-minor-leagues-for-second-time-this-season/ Blue Jays option Alek Manoah to minor leagues for second time this season 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 6 minutes ago, thedestroyerofworlds said: https://www.sportsnet.ca/mlb/article/blue-jays-option-alek-manoah-to-minor-leagues-for-second-time-this-season/ Blue Jays option Alek Manoah to minor leagues for second time this season Called him back up way too quickly. Leave him down until the minor league season is over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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