Mr. Ambien Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 The biggest hurdle an independent Scotland would face is the EU. There's a handful of European countries firmly opposed because it would give hope to surging independence movements within. Given how much support you've seen in the form of press and money in the Scotland independence movement from other like minded European movements it logically poses a problem. This problem I think most Scots see. Despite me wanting to see Scotland give the proverbial finger to the UK.. namely England, after seeing the Yes movements messages it doesn't give a whole lot of confidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianLoonie Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 It's not all about the money. It's about having agency for issues that include their economy. Really? Are they going to share royalties on that oil with England? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianLoonie Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 The biggest hurdle an independent Scotland would face is the EU. There's a handful of European countries firmly opposed because it would give hope to surging independence movements within. Given how much support you've seen in the form of press and money in the Scotland independence movement from other like minded European movements it logically poses a problem. This problem I think most Scots see. Despite me wanting to see Scotland give the proverbial finger to the UK.. namely England, after seeing the Yes movements messages it doesn't give a whole lot of confidence. I actually want Scotland to go, but for my own "nefarious" purposes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Really? Are they going to share royalties on that oil with England? So on the one hand you argue that Scotland is a welfare state sucking off the teat of England, and on the other hand they are wishing to separate because of economics. This strikes me as somewhat contradictory. Again, economics plays a role. However, the economy is not an overarching entity separate from society. It is a cog that serves a role within society. I respect the fact that you have strong opinions on how our markets should be governed, but when all you see is markets in every crisis or debate, the. It appears to be leaning towards the fanatical side. Again, no disrespect intended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heretic Posted September 19, 2014 Author Share Posted September 19, 2014 Just read this on CBC: Local officials said that more than 4.2 million people registered to cast a ballot in the referendum, which represents roughly 97 per cent of all eligible voters. Included in those eligible to vote were people as young as 16. Results from the 32 local centres are expected to come in through the night, as councils tally up what's expected to be a record number of votes. Final results are expected sometime between 1 a.m. and 3 a.m. ET. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Just read this on CBC: Local officials said that more than 4.2 million people registered to cast a ballot in the referendum, which represents roughly 97 per cent of all eligible voters. Included in those eligible to vote were people as young as 16. Results from the 32 local centres are expected to come in through the night, as councils tally up what's expected to be a record number of votes. Final results are expected sometime between 1 a.m. and 3 a.m. ET. From the polls I've read, the no vote appears to be ahead. However, these could easily be flawed if certain demographics (marginalized) aren't represented. Looks like this will go down to the wire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Building Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/scottish-independence-referendum-live-video-4276887 Link to a live video feed. I'm not to good at embedding video that aren't youtube, otherwise I'd put it on the page. Anyone have any different or better feeds? Early reports have the average voter turnout at around %85. Pretty damn good really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SabreFan1 Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 45%Yes / 55%No, so far. NBC's live coverage: http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/scotland-independence-vote/record-turnout-scotland-independence-referendum-vote-n206876 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Building Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Go Mick Dundee! Dumb question here: Is the referendum weighted like the Presidential vote in the US? You know, where a majority may not claim victory? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SabreFan1 Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Go Mick Dundee! Dumb question here: Is the referendum weighted like the Presidential vote in the US? You know, where a majority may not claim victory? Dundee shifted the vote a full point. Too little too late by the looks of it. *edit* No, Scotland does not have an electoral college. It's straight out vote totals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SabreFan1 Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 I spoke too soon 49% - 51%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Building Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Dundee shifted the vote a full point. Too little too late by the looks of it. *edit* No, Scotland does not have an electoral college. It's straight out vote totals. Thanks. I spoke too soon 49% - 51%. Yeah it seems way too early to call it. I call another scotch and I'll be watching this for awhile yet out of curiosity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offensive Threat Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 I want a yes win simply for the entertainment value of watching them make a go of it. Good or bad it would be interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Upshall18 Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 I just want them to make a sequel to braveheart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightHawkSniper Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 I just want them to make a sequel to braveheart The pen is ______________ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lillooet_Hillbilly Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 good for stabbing when you don't have a sword Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Building Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 The pen is ______________ Peatier than the sword? I want a yes win simply for the entertainment value of watching them make a go of it. Good or bad it would be interesting. Yeah I'd like to see a Yes vote for entertainment reasons. I wouldn't want Quebec to get any rejuvenating ideas by seeing a Yes vote though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Building Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 good for stabbing when you don't have a sword Haha. Beauty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Ambien Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 The pen is ______________ .. a double entendre? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoneypuckOverlord Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 http://www.bbc.com/news/events/scotland-decides/results a very tight race. I'm hoping Scottland remains under British Control. I just can't see how it can be better by itself then it will under British Power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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