flickyoursedin Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 We have to get younger! I fear we are becoming the old Flames that held onto all their valued players until they had little value left! Here's a couple trades to bring in some extra picks in the deep 2015 draft. To Van: 16th pick and Teddy Purcell (put him with the twins and trade him next trade deadline) To Edm: Lack, Corrado and Matthias rights To Van: 18th pick and Patrick Wiercioch To Ott: Edler To Van: 19th pick and Mantha To Det: Hamhuis and Higgins To Van: Wsh 1rst rounder next year To Wsh: Vrbata This gets us four extra 1rst round picks and clears up some spots in the roster for the young guys that have to make the team or clear waivers like baertschi, vey, clendening and grenier. Sedin Sedin Purcell Baertschi Bonino Kassian Burrows Horvat Grenier Hansen Vey Dorsett Wiercioch Tanev Martin Beaucheman Sbisa Bieksa Clendening Miller Markstrom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejazz97 Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 Purcell? Nooooooo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken kaniff Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 Worst defense in the NHL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flickyoursedin Posted May 24, 2015 Author Share Posted May 24, 2015 Then Sign Mike Green or some other ufa d men with all the saved cap space. Didn't do myself any favours posting that D. I get Purcell hasn't been any good but with the goalie market right now if we're gonna pull in the 16th pick we'll probably need to take a cap dump. Purcell only has one year left on his deal and playing with the Sedins you could probably get some value out of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sedintwinpowersactivate Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 how did we get Beaucheman and Martin on defense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flickyoursedin Posted May 24, 2015 Author Share Posted May 24, 2015 ufas that we signed as we've just shed like 10 to 12 mill in cap space Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2SKATES1STICK Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 To Van: 19th pick and Mantha To Det: Hamhuis and Higgins lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2SKATES1STICK Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 THIS ISNT REEAAALLLL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flickyoursedin Posted May 24, 2015 Author Share Posted May 24, 2015 Mantha has been publicly called out by the detroit gm as they're not satisfied with the year he had. Not all my proposals are perfect I get that but I believe value is close enough that it can be tweaked a little bit to make fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smithers joe Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 i see 4 players moving this year...richardson, matthias, bieksa and a goalie....3 more the following year...higgins, burrows and weber....the next year, miller, vrbata, and hamhuis.....then the sedins retire the following year...not all at once... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbutcher Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 We have to get younger! I fear we are becoming the old Flames that held onto all their valued players until they had little value left! Here's a couple trades to bring in some extra picks in the deep 2015 draft. To Van: 16th pick and Teddy Purcell (put him with the twins and trade him next trade deadline) To Edm: Lack, Corrado and Matthias rights To Van: 18th pick and Patrick Wiercioch To Ott: Edler To Van: 19th pick and Mantha To Det: Hamhuis and Higgins To Van: Wsh 1rst rounder next year To Wsh: Vrbata This gets us four extra 1rst round picks and clears up some spots in the roster for the young guys that have to make the team or clear waivers like baertschi, vey, clendening and grenier. Sedin Sedin Purcell Baertschi Bonino Kassian Burrows Horvat Grenier Hansen Vey Dorsett Wiercioch Tanev Martin Beaucheman Sbisa Bieksa Clendening Miller Markstrom Lack, Corrado and Matthias are young................................ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbutcher Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 Then Sign Mike Green or some other ufa d men with all the saved cap space. Didn't do myself any favours posting that D. I get Purcell hasn't been any good but with the goalie market right now if we're gonna pull in the 16th pick we'll probably need to take a cap dump. Purcell only has one year left on his deal and playing with the Sedins you could probably get some value out of it. ADHD? take some meds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flickyoursedin Posted May 24, 2015 Author Share Posted May 24, 2015 Lack, Corrado and Matthias are young................................ Miller = untradeable Matthias = ufa with no room on roster to sign Corrado is a dman that people agree he's good at most things but not great at anything. We have plenty of those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 Man, there are some rude people who think it's a virtue...Overall OP, I'd endorse an approach like this, want to see the team get younger, too. Only I'd prefer they were ballsy enough to have made the 'hard decisions' this past TDL. It was an EXCELLENT opportunity to sell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeltaSwede Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 Really confused as to why people would want to trade either Edler or Hamhuis, clearly our two best defenders. Martin and Beauchemin replacing them? what are we doing here? Trade the twins and replace them with Shawn Horcoff and Martin Erat!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12-16-FG Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 would ya, could ya, should ya,?. The pieces that do need to go is Miller, Burr, Either/or Edler- Hamuis. For a positive return better to let Edler go in a trade. Miller won't go anywhere but the West coast, so San Jose. Miller/ Edler ,van 1st 2015 - Brent Burns, a prospect and SJ 1st 2015 Offer Burr up to Montreal for a second rd 2015 or Lars Eller. (Eller $3.5, Burr $4.5) saving 1 mil. Vancouver needs a little more toughness on the blue line, hence, Burns. Richardson and Mathius are gone, so room for rookies. Van is limited in what they can do, NTC, has and will hamper most talks. Try to sign Justin Williams out of LA. The leadership is what the Canucks need. If at all on draft day, choose the best right handed D-man in the draft, whether picking at 9 or 23. If van gets Eller, then a secondary move of Bonino is needed, and Horvat moves to the second line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwijibo Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 I don't see where Burrows would fit in Montreal's line-up. I don't see them having any interest in him at all. People seem to think Montreal would want him just because he's French. Also, I don't see them moving Eller. He's young, inexpensive, big, recently re-signed and looks to be the successor to Plekanec as their 2-way centre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flickyoursedin Posted May 25, 2015 Author Share Posted May 25, 2015 Really confused as to why people would want to trade either Edler or Hamhuis, clearly our two best defenders. Martin and Beauchemin replacing them? what are we doing here? Trade the twins and replace them with Shawn Horcoff and Martin Erat!!!!! They would hold great value in a trade. Teams that are close to contending will pay to have good players on good contracts rather than overpay or strike out on free agency! We aren't close to contending so we should be looking at trading our value players now. I'd pay a little more than everybody else for lets say like a Martin and Mcquaid in free agency. With where the Canucks are I'd rather have Konecny or Svechnikov at 18th overall, Roy at 19th overall, Weircioch, Mantha, Martin and McQuaid Rather than Edler, Hamhuis and Higgins for a couple more years until their trade value hits rock bottom and we can't get anything to help the retool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crabcakes Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 Benning turned over 1/3 of the team last year. We won't see that much action again. Adding youth / getting younger means promoting prospects. This year Baertschi, Corrado, and Clendening. Give an outside chance to Gaunce, Grenier and Virtanen. To make room, Matthias, Higgins up front, maybe Stanton, Weber or Bieksa on the back end and of course Markstrom in goal. In addition to that I could see a physical defenseman brought in as a UFA. This is still a lot of movement relatively 4/23 or 17% Agree with Smithers Joe (above) in principle. Moving 3 or 4 players a year for 3 or 4 years is a lot of change and will result in a very different looking team at the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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