two drink minimum Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 Our 1st, Vrbata and CasselsforMalkinObviously Pitt aren't going to move Malkin unless they get a front line player in return but really, how much value does Malkin have. Kesler's return was less and he is a top end #2 center. He would be the perfect fit here with what JB and TL are trying to do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 Our 1st, Vrbata and Cassels for Malkin Obviously Pitt aren't going to move Malkin unless they get a front line player in return but really, how much value does Malkin have. Kesler's return was less and he is a top end #2 center. He would be the perfect fit here with what JB and TL are trying to do Kesler's was less because the choice was to trade him to one team or keep him and risk lots of drama. Regardless, that is a fine return for Malkin. He is signed to a very hefty contract with a huge cap hit, which makes him less valuable. At that dollar amount you are really hoping he recaptures the 40-50 goal mark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 Our 1st, Vrbata and Cassels for Malkin Obviously Pitt aren't going to move Malkin unless they get a front line player in return but really, how much value does Malkin have. Kesler's return was less and he is a top end #2 center. He would be the perfect fit here with what JB and TL are trying to do Kesler's was less because the choice was to trade him to one team or keep him and risk lots of drama. Regardless, that is a fine return for Malkin. He is signed to a very hefty contract with a huge cap hit, which makes him less valuable. At that dollar amount you are really hoping he recaptures the 40-50 goal mark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
two drink minimum Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 Kesler's was less because the choice was to trade him to one team or keep him and risk lots of drama. Regardless, that is a fine return for Malkin. He is signed to a very hefty contract with a huge cap hit, which makes him less valuable. At that dollar amount you are really hoping he recaptures the 40-50 goal mark.Yeah for sure Malkins contract is something that needs to be weighed by any team wanting to acquire him. That is the exact reason I question how much value does he really have. Kesler has a sweet deal and I thought JB got hosed personally but c'est la vie. Rutherford didn't draft Geno or sign him to his current deal so he may see it as an albatross on the Pens cap situation more than anything. We wont get Malkin but I fully expect he gets traded at this years draft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BI3KSA- Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 Why? Think of the goaltending depth: Anderson Lack Markstrom Ericsson Miller Demko We'd never let one in then... I cant tell if you are trolling me or not. We'd never let one in then? Trade our first and Gaunce for a 34 year old goalie when goaltending is the position we need to upgrade the least? Your plan is to keep Miller and Lack as well which would make our cap expenditures on goalies absolutely ridiculous too. Talk about the complete opposite direction we need to go in. We need to get rid of a goalie not acquire another one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unknown33429 Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 According to a pundit on radio, Pens might be looking to trade Malkin. What they have isn't working right now, and they may try to get rid of some of that salary to add more depth. They'll at least want a 2nd line centre in return as well as first round pick. Obviously, they'll want a massive return, but it is possible he could be moved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unknown33429 Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 Our 1st, Vrbata and Cassels for Malkin Obviously Pitt aren't going to move Malkin unless they get a front line player in return but really, how much value does Malkin have. Kesler's return was less and he is a top end #2 center. He would be the perfect fit here with what JB and TL are trying to do Not even close. They don't want Sutter as their second line centre, so you are going to have to add that in there. A team like Minnesota can make a much better offer because of their depth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zverta Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 What makes people think Malkin will strive here? Pittsburgh's had him for years WITH Sidney Crosby and they still can't manage to win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinatcc Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 This is Vancouver, the fans always overrate thier prospects. Remember when Coho was supposed to be our next captain? He was playing great in the stretch before he got traded and Gillis drafted him because of his leadership abilities. Him becoming the next captain at the time was not that far fetched. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 What makes people think Malkin will strive here? Pittsburgh's had him for years WITH Sidney Crosby and they still can't manage to win. We have superior depth? Regardless his cap hit is a little too steep for my blood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 What makes people think Malkin will strive here? Pittsburgh's had him for years WITH Sidney Crosby and they still can't manage to win. Because he would be "the man" here instead of being in the shadow of Crosby. The Sedins are nearing the ends of their careers, and will be 2nd liners within a year or two regardless, faster if Malkin is here to supplant them. I am not advocating getting him, because I do think his cap hit is too much, I think it is still 2nd highest in the league. He isn't the 2nd best player in the league and value is all about what you are worth compared with how much you count against the cap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
two drink minimum Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 Not even close. They don't want Sutter as their second line centre, so you are going to have to add that in there. A team like Minnesota can make a much better offer because of their depth.Yeah you're right that there are other teams that can put offers through to the Pens that may be better but having a center like him could fit perfect here. I don't think by any stretch that JB is interested in him but I do think he'll get moved this draft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltt Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 I cant tell if you are trolling me or not. We'd never let one in then? Trade our first and Gaunce for a 34 year old goalie when goaltending is the position we need to upgrade the least? Your plan is to keep Miller and Lack as well which would make our cap expenditures on goalies absolutely ridiculous too. Talk about the complete opposite direction we need to go in. We need to get rid of a goalie not acquire another one. But look at that goaltending depth!! Top of the league, plus with a few goalie injuries we still have enough depth to not miss a step. Plus Anderson is really good. Win win go for it JB!! Goalie depth!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baer. Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 Trade our first to Columbus for their 2 picks in the 2nd round. Draft Zboril if he's still available since he fell a bit and Trenin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ice orca Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 He was playing great in the stretch before he got traded and Gillis drafted him because of his leadership abilities. Him becoming the next captain at the time was not that far fetched. I know he had the duct tape C on him for awhile, not to far fetched at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayingBurke Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 He was playing great in the stretch before he got traded and Gillis drafted him because of his leadership abilities. Him becoming the next captain at the time was not that far fetched. Furthermore, many Canucks fans and hockey analysts where upset over this deal. Thought we got fleeched. And now nobody thinks that. Kassian is only getting better apart from an injured season and still working through consistancy issues; but given the type of player he is, it does take time. I am excited to watch Kassian in his late 20s crush forwards and score goals. Instead of hearing "Here comes Ferland." I want to be hearing, "$&!#! Here comes Kassian, hope he doesn't break his jaw." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucksnhl Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 Yeah cause the cap doesnt exist, never mind that this is a gigantic overpayment. They can always make room via more trades. And you'd have to over pay in order to acquire a player of that calibre who is in his prime. edit: the Canucks could also retain some of the Sedin's salary to make it happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gs7 Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 JB will not trade draft pics he will trade some dead wood for draft pics and Pittsburgh has only one player worth going after and that's Sid Crosby! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 Wouldn't go near this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfstonker Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 I would rather give Benning the chance to get another "Virtanen" i.e. someone who could be had around 23 who will be a big dynamic winger in a year or two. If the Pens are desperate for a first round pick then it probably means they recognise the calibre of the forwards to be had, even at our pick level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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