SaintPatrick33 Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Seabrook wont be going anywhere, I highly doubt chicago lets him walk. As for Buff, he is 30 years old and wants 7 mill. He also does not seem like a decent leader, throwing kane's track suit in the shower could have been dealt with differently lol. He is tough but his decline will be a lot faster than Looch's. This is not a young dougie hamilton, where you can justify throwing large dollars at him. Like Monty stated above, his conditioning leaves something to be desired. Looch is only 27 and still has at least 5 good years left, and is a true power forward. I would rather try to sign Yandle, who has the highest offensive skill set of any 2016 UFA D-man, or even Erik Johnson who is only 27 and starting to develop into an offensive force. Both these guys are under 30 and are the type of up-tempo puck moving D that this team needs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil_314 Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Alternatively, hope the team wouldn't pass up on the possibility of signing Franson for cheap. After that long summer you'd think that he would be willing to lower his contract expectations, since the other option may be PTO. If Jim could offer a realistically priced, lower-cost deal without making him feel disrespected then maybe we could land a poor-man's top-4 right hand D-man who would do well even with big minutes and in offensive situations. Too bad it's unlikely, but if there's a fit I hope Jim isn't too blind to his team model to make cheap improvements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cripplereh Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Wither Edler,Tanev,Sbisa,orrado we have young D men for years unless we trade Edler and Hamhuis to get another young D man and a team like The red wings would love to have them!Our D is good,but signing one more like seabrook or buff would make us way better! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DinoTambo Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 No to Byfuglien. Arrogant Americans suck. Seabrook and Lucic, please. Two local boys, Champions, great bridge players for Benning's plan, and great in regards to setting an example for the type of hockey that Canucks fans haven't seen in yrs and SHOULD want night in, night out. Meat and Potatoes hockey is awesome to watch. Trust me. The first big hit that Lucic throws in blue and green will, yes, jack this town up! Same goes for Virtanen, hopefully this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goblix Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 If we take Big Buff then does that hurt our chances at signing E-Kane when he goes UFA ? Honestly, he's had a rap for being lazy and out of shape. I'm speculating here because maybe I just remember hearing hearsay and none of it's true but Benning may not want him anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aliboy Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 Would love to have Buff is he wants to come, I doubt Seabrook will hit free agency, if he does, hell ya! Lucic would be ok. We should have close to $20M in cap space next year, plus some good picks in an excellent 2016 draft, plus even more young players who are NHL ready. We should come out of the gate smokin in 2016. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanNuck Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 One, Winnipeg would surely re-sign Buff... he's too important for their team, even with the new crop of blueliners coming. Two, it's enough signing our old rival (but locally born) Lucic, but I personally cannot bear signing another old rival like Buff... almost like signing Mark Messier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 One, Winnipeg would surely re-sign Buff... he's too important for their team, even with the new crop of blueliners coming. Two, it's enough signing our old rival (but locally born) Lucic, but I personally cannot bear signing another old rival like Buff... almost like signing Mark Messier. No, they probably won't. They are loaded with talent for RHD: Trouba, Myers, Kostalek, Kichten. Byfuglien, while better than Kostalek and Kichten, is expendable at this point. Especially nearing 31 years of age. That said, Vancouver should also stay away from him. They are not 3-5 years away from being a Cup contender with Byfuglien in the lineup, so no use tying up that much cap space into him. More importantly, he could sign somewhere else for the same amount of money that Vancouver could offer, but has a much better chance at competing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 One, Winnipeg would surely re-sign Buff... he's too important for their team, even with the new crop of blueliners coming. Two, it's enough signing our old rival (but locally born) Lucic, but I personally cannot bear signing another old rival like Buff... almost like signing Mark Messier. Don't get to caught up in the enemy aspect of players in the NHL. Once a player leaves a team, they leave all allegiances behind. Messier was a selfish douchenozzle and that combined with his buddy Keenan being an even bigger assclown, had a serious effect on the team, ending with the horrible decision to strip Linden of the C and subsequent trade. Thank goodness Linden is a bigger man than what happened to him, while Messier is still the equivalent of the morning after a burrito and cheap beer bender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baumerman77 Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 I'll pass on Lucic, unless he can bounce back this year. However, that would likely lead to him getting even more overpaid... yea I would just pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 I'll pass on Lucic, unless he can bounce back this year. However, that would likely lead to him getting even more overpaid... yea I would just pass. Great Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHitman Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Seabrook and Campbell would be my biggest wants. Hutton as the 5th guy with a rotational 6th being a veteran. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Seabrook and Campbell would be my biggest wants. Hutton as the 5th guy with a rotational 6th being a veteran. Brian Campbell? 36 years old, and fairly ridiculous cap hit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHitman Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 Brian Campbell? 36 years old, and fairly ridiculous cap hit? Yes, very effective player in his position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baumerman77 Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 http://www.tsn.ca/what-should-bruins-do-with-milan-lucic-1.309682 http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck-daddy/how-much-does-milan-lucic-need-to-do-to--rebound----trending-topics-193716124.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 Yes, very effective player in his position. From an offensive point producer, as far as defending, he is undersized and not physical at all. Too old for Vancouver at the cap hit, and lacks the hard to play against ability Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHitman Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 From an offensive point producer, as far as defending, he is undersized and not physical at all. Too old for Vancouver at the cap hit, and lacks the hard to play against ability Problem is unless you bring Subban up, we don't have that offensive ability elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 Problem is unless you bring Subban up, we don't have that offensive ability elsewhere. Subban is gone to Utica, so that's a foregone conclusion. Campbell's best days are far behind him, and his hit wouldn't fit under the cap, I'm pretty sure. If Benning does go for a defenseman in a trade, it will be for one that is in his twenties (most likely) that has some size and strength to go with skill, and one that is defensively responsible, which Campbell could never be accused of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DollarAndADream Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 These guys aren't the players they were years ago. There's limited upside in signing these guys long term. Don't be shocked if Lucic trends down like Clowe does. Can't say the same for Lucic, but Byfuglien is definitely the same player. I watched a big number of Jets games last season, and many of their wins depended on how Byfuglien played. He was a game changer in plenty of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHitman Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 Subban is gone to Utica, so that's a foregone conclusion. Campbell's best days are far behind him, and his hit wouldn't fit under the cap, I'm pretty sure. If Benning does go for a defenseman in a trade, it will be for one that is in his twenties (most likely) that has some size and strength to go with skill, and one that is defensively responsible, which Campbell could never be accused of. Campbell is a UFA, which is what this discussion was about... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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