Westcoasting Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 1 hour ago, Captain Azzy said: Down Goes Brown re-did the NHL Awards using the MLB method - ie, both Eastern AND Western Conferences get to choose an award winner each - meaning that Luongo, under that method, would have won a Vezina in 2007, as well as a Hart Trophy. It's easy to forget that for a five-year period, he and Brodeur were unrivalled in their excellence. Like Carey Price today, like Hasek before and Sawchuk in days gone by. Elite goalies of their era make the Hall. It's why CuJo and Osgood aren't in. But Luongo will be, even if not a 1st ballot guy. In fact, let's look at when he's likely to be eligible. Assuming he sees out his contract, he'd retire in 2022. Eligible for induction in 2025. Depending on who retires when - let's use an average of age 36 for retirement, the most common age for retirement according to QuantHockey - players eligible to be first balloters include: If retired at age 36: Evgeni Malkin, David Krejci, Blake Wheeler, Keith Yandle, Jonathan Quick, Ben Bishop and Cory Schneider If retired at age 37: Alex Ovechkin, Corey Perry, Ryan Getzlaf, Patrice Bergeron, Jeff Carter, Paul Stastny, Shea Weber, Brent Burns, Ryan Suter and Brent Seabrook. If retired at age 38: Marc-Andre Fleury, Cam Ward, Jimmy Howard, Corey Crawford, Eric Staal, Rick Nash, Thomas Vanek, Zach Parise and Ryan Kesler. If those players all retire at those exact ages - unlikely as that may be - the only 100% first balloter is Alex Ovechkin. Possible contenders would be Corey Perry/Ryan Getzlaf, Patrice Bergeron (likely), Shea Weber and Marc-Andre Fleury. Luongo will definitely be in this section - close calls for a 1st time ballot entry. And finally, the criteria for inclusion in the Player category is as follows: Luongo not only ticks all of those boxes - unlike, say, Chris Osgood - but far surpasses them. He's a shoe-in, even if not 1st time. Great post! Thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westcoasting Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 11 hours ago, wai_lai416 said: i said absolutely nothing about Luongo is a sure bet in the HOF nor anything about HOF but comparing Luongo to Cujo is a joke when his stats are not even comparable other than wins.. and Luongo prolly have a Vezina if he wasn't playing against the luck of probably the greatest of all time Brodeur.. and some can argue he probably deserves the Vezina over him in that 47 win season playing for a team that was suppose to miss the playoff.. lol u put Grant Fuhr in the same class as Roy Hasek Belfour and Brodeur.. what a joke.. u stick him on any other team other than the oilers he'll end his career with 0 cups.. likewise u stick any goalie in that oiler team likely they'll end up with the same amount of cups. Fuhr is an average goalie at best that rode the coat tail of Gretzky.. you konw why the list of goalie in the hall of fame is so short?? have u considered there's only 30 starting goalies in the league vs 540 skaters? how many goalies retired in the last 20 years that's even considered good? the last good goalie to retire was brodeur.. and before that? Roy? Hasek? so i guess if u have stanley cups you are a HOF by ur standard.. Corey Crawford and MA Fleury, and Jonathan Quick are all sure fire HOF coz they each have won 1-2 cups? you put goalies in different class based on awards.. what a joke... i guess Niemi Crawford Ward Fleury are currently in a class above Price too coz they all have a cup despite being a good goalie at best The HOF puts everyone in a different class based on awards... have you ever looked at who is in? Other than Cam Neely, Bernie Federko and Dino Ciccarelli everyone in there has an award either individually or as a team winning Cups. Go take a look at the list and explain how Lui fits in the Hall as a modern day player. He doesn't as the HOF currently exists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wai_lai416 Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 12 hours ago, Westcoasting said: lol you don't read well when you are flustered do you? I didn't put Fuhr anywhere, that is the where the HOF put him with the others. Why is Fuhr there and not others? lol none of us really know but you would have to think it's because of Stanley Cups. If Fuhr is in there because of things other than Stanley Cups and a Vezina, then why isn't there other goalies of that generation in there? coz there's no decent goalies literally in that generation? who would u put in there? Tom Barasso? Kelly Hrudey? John Vanbesbrock? the list of goalies that even have 300 games in the 80s are absolute trash. Fuhr is not in there because of his stanley cups.. he's in there coz he's the goalie and his team won 5 of 6 cups in 6 years... pretty much all the oilers that were part of 4+cups were in the HOF with the exception of lowe, gregg, and huddy.. being the only player in the position on a dynasty team sure helps get u in the HOF when your only competition is yourself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JV77 Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 @Westcoasting 443! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westcoasting Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 6 minutes ago, JV77 said: @Westcoasting 443! Good one! If only the guy had figured out how to win playoff games... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poetica Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 25 minutes ago, JV77 said: @Westcoasting 443! And earned every bit of it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JV77 Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 10 minutes ago, poetica said: And earned every bit of it! Great all night. Should've really been a shutout but that shot was so lucky lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salacious Crumb Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 17 hours ago, Westcoasting said: Good one! If only the guy had figured out how to win playoff games... He won 15 in one playoff year! Not too shabby... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qwags Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 Win #444. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lockhart Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 On 11/18/2016 at 0:38 PM, Westcoasting said: The HOF puts everyone in a different class based on awards... have you ever looked at who is in? Other than Cam Neely, Bernie Federko and Dino Ciccarelli everyone in there has an award either individually or as a team winning Cups. Go take a look at the list and explain how Lui fits in the Hall as a modern day player. He doesn't as the HOF currently exists. Luongo is in the Hall of fame, it isn't even a discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riviera82 Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 On 11/17/2016 at 7:06 PM, JV77 said: Numbers. That's the only thing you can go by. His playoff numbers would have to be ignored then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westcoasting Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 2 hours ago, Lockhart said: Luongo is in the Hall of fame, it isn't even a discussion. lol yeah he's in because he sure played a lot of games didn't he... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neversummer Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 Not tonight ... Chi 2 Fla 1 in OT on shootout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JV77 Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 445 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poetica Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 Quote NHL Public Relations @PR_NHL 3h3 hours ago Roberto Luongo of the @FlaPanthers is making his 943rd career NHL appearance, tying Curtis Joseph for fifth all-time among goaltenders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gizmo2337 Posted December 10, 2016 Author Share Posted December 10, 2016 He's on pace for 462 if this continues this year. That would safely land him as #4 all time this year (passing CuJo and Sawchuck), and poised to move into #3 next year (passing Belfour). He should pass Sawchuck very soon. Hopefully the Canucks don't contribute to such stat tomorrow night! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neversummer Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 This thread better be popping up once in a while for the next 6 years. Or else, Canucks will be facing recapture cap penalty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JV77 Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 446 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neversummer Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 41 minutes ago, JV77 said: 446 you are really damn fast at posting this every time. Hard to beat you! Can I do the next one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JV77 Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 41 minutes ago, Neversummer said: you are really damn fast at posting this every time. Hard to beat you! Can I do the next one? Lol sure! Prob becuase I was already on when the game was over 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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