Search for boy snatched by alligator turns to recovery effort at Disney World

[PhillipBlunt]

45 minutes ago, riffraff said:

Kids have been grabbed by Cougars in Squamish and van isl for example, in the exact same way - broad daylight and with parents all around.  

 

We we share the land. That's all it is.

Humans haven't learned how to share the land with fellow human beings, let alone other classes of animals.

 

As a species, we only know how to take, and alter our environment to maximize our output. That's why we have animals in our habitat. We've taken theirs.

[taxi]

4 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said:

Horrible tragedy for the family.

 

Although don't really understand the idea behind killing 5-6 alligators though. Will that truly bring closure to the issue? Is that how simple we've become as a species?

 

The animals were just doing what nature dictates they do.

 

Once an animal kills a human being, it gains a taste for human flesh. It's like a Pavlov dog scenario. The animal's brain instantly becomes hard-wired to associate humans with food. You've got a 4-7 foot alligator that probably weighs under 100lbs now. What happens when you have a 1000 lbs alligator with a taste for human beings? You need to kill that animal. It's unfortunate that a few innocent animals are getting taken out too.

 

The police here follow the same protocol when a bear attacks a person. It's very unfortunate, but has to be done.

[PhillipBlunt]

12 minutes ago, taxi said:

Once an animal kills a human being, it gains a taste for human flesh. It's like a Pavlov dog scenario. The animal's brain instantly becomes hard-wired to associate humans with food. You've got a 4-7 foot alligator that probably weighs under 100lbs now. What happens when you have a 1000 lbs alligator with a taste for human beings? You need to kill that animal. It's unfortunate that a few innocent animals are getting taken out too.

 

The police here follow the same protocol when a bear attacks a person. It's very unfortunate, but has to be done.

That's proven not to be true. Most predators are hard wired to eat what is available, especially if hungry. In fact, most great white sharks actually don't eat people because we lack the immense fat content they need to nourish and power them. They will attack but not consume.

 

Most predators don't usually find the average human being that tasty due to our diets and fat content. These animals are following their instinct, we've supressed ours.

 

All large crocodilians have very far-reaching diets that happen to include humans. They can eat people because they spend a good amount of time in a sedentary state, due to being reptiles and needing warmth to regulate body temperature.

 

Do we kill them all because of their evolutionary predilection? 

 

Humans are easier to attack because outside of our big brains, we're a pretty pathetic species from a natural defenses standpoint, and very simple to take down.

 

Would you apply the same logic to the 100,000,000 sharks slaughtered for their fins each year? Would you kill those fishermen?

[PhillipBlunt]

18 minutes ago, taxi said:

Once an animal kills a human being, it gains a taste for human flesh. It's like a Pavlov dog scenario. The animal's brain instantly becomes hard-wired to associate humans with food. You've got a 4-7 foot alligator that probably weighs under 100lbs now. What happens when you have a 1000 lbs alligator with a taste for human beings? You need to kill that animal. It's unfortunate that a few innocent animals are getting taken out too.

 

The police here follow the same protocol when a bear attacks a person. It's very unfortunate, but has to be done.

To be clear, it's usually animal control that shoots the animal, and in certain cases, when the animal might attack.

[JoeyJoeJoeJr. Shabadoo]

3 hours ago, PhillipBlunt said:

That's proven not to be true. Most predators are hard wired to eat what is available, especially if hungry. In fact, most great white sharks actually don't eat people because we lack the immense fat content they need to nourish and power them. They will attack but not consume.

 

Most predators don't usually find the average human being that tasty due to our diets and fat content. These animals are following their instinct, we've supressed ours.

 

All large crocodilians have very far-reaching diets that happen to include humans. They can eat people because they spend a good amount of time in a sedentary state, due to being reptiles and needing warmth to regulate body temperature.

 

Do we kill them all because of their evolutionary predilection? 

 

Humans are easier to attack because outside of our big brains, we're a pretty pathetic species from a natural defenses standpoint, and very simple to take down.

 

Would you apply the same logic to the 100,000,000 sharks slaughtered for their fins each year? Would you kill those fishermen?

Have you seen the people in Florida? Fat content is not an issue there.

[PhillipBlunt]

1 minute ago, JoeyJoeJoeJr. Shabadoo said:

Have you seen the people in Florida? Fat content is not an issue there.

Oh man.....hahahahahahaha

[Tortorella's Rant]

Cute gift Floridian parents can get their kids.

[BCNeil]

3 hours ago, JoeyJoeJoeJr. Shabadoo said:

Have you seen the people in Florida? Fat content is not an issue there.

But the Alligator needs its omega 3.  

[AngelicHearts]

And this is why I try to avoid reading the news... Crazy things are happening everywhere. 

[PhillipBlunt]

9 hours ago, AngelicHearts said:

And this is why I try to avoid reading the news... Crazy things are happening everywhere. 

Large predatory reptiles have been eating mammals (including people) for quite some time. Personally, I wouldn't really classify that as crazy. 

[PhillipBlunt]

11 hours ago, Tortorella's Rant said:

Cute gift Floridian parents can get their kids.

Where do you get that? That looks like something IKEA would sell.

[taxi]

21 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said:

That's proven not to be true. Most predators are hard wired to eat what is available, especially if hungry. In fact, most great white sharks actually don't eat people because we lack the immense fat content they need to nourish and power them. They will attack but not consume.

 

Most predators don't usually find the average human being that tasty due to our diets and fat content. These animals are following their instinct, we've supressed ours.

 

All large crocodilians have very far-reaching diets that happen to include humans. They can eat people because they spend a good amount of time in a sedentary state, due to being reptiles and needing warmth to regulate body temperature.

 

Do we kill them all because of their evolutionary predilection? 

 

Humans are easier to attack because outside of our big brains, we're a pretty pathetic species from a natural defenses standpoint, and very simple to take down.

 

Would you apply the same logic to the 100,000,000 sharks slaughtered for their fins each year? Would you kill those fishermen?

Crocodilians can't all be put in the same group...American Alligators do not typically hunt people. If they did the millions of alligators that live in Florida would result in a lot more deaths than once or twice a decade. Other crocodilian species like Salt-Water Crocodiles, for example, will more actively hunt humans.

 

This alligator was probably starving, saw a defenceless child, and struck. While many animals are opportunists, they also become hard-wired to return to easy sources of food. Hence, why when a bear gets in the habit of entering homes and eating out of garbage cans, the result is normally it being put down. It doesn't unlearn the behaviour. 

 

A major reason why very few animals hunt humans is that any animal who comes into contact with humans either learns not to or becomes extinct. When humans arrive at previously uninhabited areas, the animals are often fearless towards humans. For animals, it's learned behaviour, both socially and evolutionary not to interact with humans.

 

I also don't see what this has to do with Shark Fin soup?

[Mustapha]

Maybe it already gained a taste for human flesh after biting off Captain Hook's hand.

[Salacious Crumb]

On June 16, 2016 at 9:38 PM, Tortorella's Rant said:

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[Tortorella's Rant]

1 hour ago, Salacious Crumb said:

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