Search for boy snatched by alligator turns to recovery effort at Disney World

[theminister]

Just now, goalie13 said:

I golfed once at one of the Disney courses there.  The local I was golfing with basically warned me to that I should assume every body of water has an alligator and to forget trying to retrieve a lost ball.

Just walking through the parking lot to get to the rink in Sunrise last year I stayed right in the middle of the concrete and away from the bushes. There is literally zero separation from the swamp to the parking lot.

 

It isn't just gators down there.

[falcon45ca]

5 minutes ago, Canucks_fo_life said:

Thankfully 5 or 6 of the alligators in that body of water will now be put down, why the hell are they inside a resort in the first place? Idiotic

Yeah, and what the heck are deer & moose doing crossing our highways? Don't they know we drive on those?

 

 It's a wild animal. It didn't ask anyone's permission.

[chon derry]

24 minutes ago, falcon45ca said:

Alligators have been found in people's swimming pools in Florida. The body of water being isolated from others has nothing to do with it, cuz' alligators can walk across land.

 

 

if they can build a rail tunnel through the swiss alps , the golden gate bridge, i can go on and on, if disney world can spend a gazillion dollars on a theme park surely in this day and age you could isolate an uneducated nebraskan tourist. living in northern b.c. i've personally seen tourists getting close to black bears ,not relizing the potentials. as a highway worker i witnessed a motor home come screeching to a halt on hi way 16 ,with a loaded logging truck having to swerve around all because of a deer?  posting a sign to not enter the "man made lake" is not good enough. given the naivety of the tourists.  even a really really good excuse hasn't the same weight as a reasonable answer!

[falcon45ca]

2 minutes ago, goalie13 said:

I golfed once at one of the Disney courses there.  The local I was golfing with basically warned me to that I should assume every body of water has an alligator and to forget trying to retrieve a lost ball.

Exactly, I've never been to Florida but it's fairly well known that there are 'gators all over the place. 

[Canucks_fo_life]

10 minutes ago, falcon45ca said:

Yeah, and what the heck are deer & moose doing crossing our highways? Don't they know we drive on those?

 

 It's a wild animal. It didn't ask anyone's permission.

Uuuuh, its a resort, they can be moved into a proper location away from your guests....

[falcon45ca]

2 minutes ago, chon derry said:

if they can build a rail tunnel through the swiss alps , the golden gate bridge, i can go on and on, if disney world can spend a gazillion dollars on theme park surely in this day and age you could isolate an uneducated nebraskan tourist. living in northern b.c. i've personally seen tourists getting close to black bears ,not relizing the potentials. as a highway worker i witnessed a motor home come screeching to a halt on hi way 16 ,with a loaded logging truck having to swerve around all because of a deer?  posting a sign to not enter the "man made lake is not good enough. given the naivety of the tourists.  even a really really good excuse hasn't the same weight as a reasonable answer!

Well, this is the first such incident in over 40 years that Disney has been operating the Seven Seas Lagoon. That's a pretty good safety record. More people die each year on the rides in amusement parks than have by alligator attack in the entire history of the Disney resort. 

[Shift-4]

14 minutes ago, Canucks_fo_life said:

Uuuuh, its a resort, they can be moved into a proper location away from your guests....

Uh, the Banff Springs is a resort and there is wildlife around there all the time

[falcon45ca]

6 minutes ago, Canucks_fo_life said:

Uuuuh, its a resort, they can be moved into a proper location away from your guests....

Yeah, I'll bet the animal checked in at the front desk.

 

It's a wild animal, and there are millions of them in Florida. Can't find them all and escort them to the designated areas, plus ya know they tend to hang out in dark, murky water. They don't exactly advertise that they're hanging out at the lagoon. The resort could do searches every single day and still not find them.

 

But of course we live in the era that shuns personal responsibility, where coffee has to be labelled as hot, a bag of peanuts has to have a peanut allergy warning, and a sign that says "Don't go in the water" is simply not doing enough to keep people out of the water.

 

[Jägermeister]

People who think it's that easy to find, capture, and relocate gators from a large body of water clearly don't understand how difficult it is to even find gators in water in the first place.  They are animals who rely on stealth to hunt and survive.  Couple that in with the fact that Florida is literally crawling with gators, and you're looking at quite the daunting (if not impossible) task.

[ShakyWalton]

23 minutes ago, falcon45ca said:

Well, this is the first such incident in over 40 years that Disney has been operating the Seven Seas Lagoon. That's a pretty good safety record. More people die each year on the rides in amusement parks than have by alligator attack in the entire history of the Disney resort. 

I dont get what you are saying here other than its a wild animal and has rights to be there....that would be hard to say to a parent who just watched their 2 year old child dragged away and eaten by an alligator in a theme park where things like this should never happen even if they have a 40 year safety record.

[SabreFan1]

This was so avoidable.  People really friggin' have to get their heads out of their arses and take responsibility for their children and protect them.  His parents knew that the child was playing in alligator infested waters but still let him do it.  They can't deny it because they gave a second by second account of what happened. 

 

This kind of crap p*sses me off to no end.

[chon derry]

between jasper and banff ,and any other areas that have high levels of migrating wild life ,there is miles of fencing and tunnels , a fence and a simple grizzly screen at the mouth of the lagoon entrance wouldn't bankrupt disney.  one on duty life guard that wasn't around at the time of  this incident ,not enough.

[Qwags]

4 hours ago, Salacious Crumb said:

No kidding? It was about finding his partially digested corpse about 5 minutes after he got snatched.

Brutally honest, but unfortunately, you're not wrong.

[JoeyJoeJoeJr. Shabadoo]

Wow, what a nightmare for the parents. I stayed at the Polynesian just down the beach from the Floridian about 25 years ago and I remember swimming in lake Buena Vista at night. It was allowed back then. They also used to have a water park that was part of the lake with water slides etc. l guess things have changed. 

[falcon45ca]

57 minutes ago, ShakyWalton said:

I dont get what you are saying here other than its a wild animal and has rights to be there....that would be hard to say to a parent who just watched their 2 year old child dragged away and eaten by an alligator in a theme park where things like this should never happen even if they have a 40 year safety record.

I don't imagine there are many things you can say to those parents right now that would be easy. It's a terrible time for them.

 

There's a lot of things that should never happen...but they do. We live in a world that has sharp corners, there will always be accidents no matter what we do. Looking at a companies safety record for a particular incident is very important in determining how to mitigate risk. The fact that this resort has had so few incidents through its operating history shows that this is not a systemic problem. 

 

I have no doubt that the resort will take even further measures to ensure guest safety. I'm sure that's of little solace to the parents right now, and my heart goes out to them.

[riffraff]

2 hours ago, Canucks_fo_life said:

Thankfully 5 or 6 of the alligators in that body of water will now be put down, why the hell are they inside a resort in the first place? Idiotic

Have you ever done the nature?

[Shift-4]

4 minutes ago, riffraff said:

Have you ever done the nature?

Outside isn't for everyone.

It's a scary place without a screen in front of you.  

[theminister]

Gator is just Chicken of the Swamp.

[Grapefruits]

5 hours ago, Kakanucks said:

Terrible terrible news, sorry for what the parents had to go through.

 

However, if there was a sign saying no swimming, why was the toddler still wading in the water??

Signs and rules are there for a reason.

 

 

 

 

Because people are stupid. Also, accountability and common sense are dead.

 

Anyone want to place bets they were on their cell phones not watching the kid?

[73 Percent]

6 minutes ago, Grapefruits said:

 

 

Because people are stupid. Also, accountability and common sense are dead.

 

Anyone want to place bets they were on their cell phones not watching the kid?

You can't assume that last part. It's pretty offensive tbh. Do you know if they have another child? It only takes a second for these things to happen. It's kind of ironic that you likely posted this from a cell phone...