Brobidus Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 35 minutes ago, danaimo said: Has it been confirmed that Canucks get the CBJ 2nd pick this year? Because I believe that they can exercise the option to wait until next year. I remember an article mentioning that Columbus has until the start of June to decide whether we get the 2017 2nd or 2018 2nd. Last year Friedman tweeted on the 1st of June that Columbus had deferred the pick: (https://www.hockeyfeed.com/nhl-news/two-more-teams-will-retain-their-draft-picks-and-defer-compensation) Nucks Misconduct also had an article quoting the 1st of June: (http://www.nucksmisconduct.com/2015/10/21/9582916/blue-jackets-hire-john-tortorella-and-canucks-get-a-2nd-round-pick) I swear that this year will be the same (either the 1st or 2nd of June) but I can't find an article that says by when Columbus has to decide by. Hope this helps! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugar baby watermelon Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 What I am afraid of is we fall to 5th and Patrick/Hischier/Vilardi/Middlestadt get selected and we are at 5th. Whom does Benning take? Does he go with Liljegren, whose stock has been falling or go with Necas/Glass. I been so hyped up on either Middlestadt/Vilardi and with last year's draft disappointment at the time picking of Juolevi and not Tkachuk it would be tough if this was the scenario. Although I would rather have Necas/Glass if this was the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugar baby watermelon Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 7 minutes ago, Brobidus said: I remember an article mentioning that Columbus has until the start of June to decide whether we get the 2017 2nd or 2018 2nd. Last year Friedman tweeted on the 1st of June that Columbus had deferred the pick: (https://www.hockeyfeed.com/nhl-news/two-more-teams-will-retain-their-draft-picks-and-defer-compensation) Nucks Misconduct also had an article quoting the 1st of June: (http://www.nucksmisconduct.com/2015/10/21/9582916/blue-jackets-hire-john-tortorella-and-canucks-get-a-2nd-round-pick) I swear that this year will be the same (either the 1st or 2nd of June) but I can't find an article that says by when Columbus has to decide by. Hope this helps! Guess the depends on if they think know next year 2nd is deeper than this year's. Would be nice if it was this year though, nice little bonus. Does anyone know if next year's draft will have a deeper talent pool? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danaimo Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 Thanks for the clarification, Bromidus. Reading some posts on this thread it seemed like it was a done deal that Van get that compensation pick this year. Would not surprise me if CBJ chose this year to send the pick to VAN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danaimo Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 17 minutes ago, Sugar baby watermelon said: Guess the depends on if they think know next year 2nd is deeper than this year's. Would be nice if it was this year though, nice little bonus. Does anyone know if next year's draft will have a deeper talent pool? I have heard that this years draft is weaker than 2018 will be, but who really knows for sure. I think CBJ having such a good year this season will be what influences them to send the pick to us this year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 In their 47 year history the Canucks have never had a 1st overall. They've had a few 2nd overalls (Tallon, Linden, Nedved and Daniel), but never a first. It would sure be nice to finally get one. They're way overdue. This team needs a jolt of good luck for a change. I'm okay if they stay put and get 2nd overall, as we'd still end up with Patrick or Hischier. Worst case scenario is they pick #5, and they'll still get a good player, but not a #1 type player. They need this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookieeater55 Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 2 hours ago, danaimo said: The real chances of Vegas getting 1st is the same as asking what their odds are. 10.3%. 64.8% chance Canucks pick 4th or 5th. can vegas drop below 3rd ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CANUCK-EXPRESS Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 (edited) 17 minutes ago, NUCKER67 said: In their 47 year history the Canucks have never had a 1st overall. They've had a few 2nd overalls (Tallon, Linden, Nedved and Daniel), but never a first. It would sure be nice to finally get one. They're way overdue. This team needs a jolt of good luck for a change. I'm okay if they stay put and get 2nd overall, as we'd still end up with Patrick or Hischier. Worst case scenario is they pick #5, and they'll still get a good player, but not a #1 type player. They need this. I'd rather get the first overall pick next year. Draft a C this year and take Rasmus Dahlin 1st OA next year. One can dream. Edited April 23, 2017 by CANUCK-EXPRESS 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CANUCK-EXPRESS Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 1 hour ago, Sugar baby watermelon said: What I am afraid of is we fall to 5th and Patrick/Hischier/Vilardi/Middlestadt get selected and we are at 5th. Whom does Benning take? Does he go with Liljegren, whose stock has been falling or go with Necas/Glass. I been so hyped up on either Middlestadt/Vilardi and with last year's draft disappointment at the time picking of Juolevi and not Tkachuk it would be tough if this was the scenario. Although I would rather have Necas/Glass if this was the case. I still get nightmares from last years draft. The worst possible thing that could happen to us happened. Canucks luck eh. Dubois didn't look good during the World Juniors though and I am stilll very happy with Juolevi. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilduce39 Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 I know Kekalainen is probably feeling pretty secure after the year he had but I just can't see any GM giving away a 2nd rounder until they absolutely had to. The faster you build the strongest team possible the safer you are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckpuckluck1 Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 (edited) 20 hours ago, Camel Toe Drag said: To be honest, the combine means nothing. To be completely frank. The interviews are the more important part. The interviews are crucial. Anyone remember Ryan Pilon, WHL defender and possible 1st round draft pick who retired from the game. It must have become quite clear in the interview stage that he wasn't into the game anymore. Edited April 23, 2017 by canuckpuckluck15 clarify 1st round not 1st overall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danaimo Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 26 minutes ago, cookieeater55 said: can vegas drop below 3rd ? Vegas can drop as low as 6th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 26 minutes ago, CANUCK-EXPRESS said: I'd rather get the first overall pick next year. Draft a C this year and take Rasmus Dahlin 1st OA next year. One can dream. Yeah, Dahlin is very talented, going to be a star. Canucks D would be strong at LD Juolevi Dahlin Hutton Tryamkin (if he returns) McEneny Brisebois 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
two drink minimum Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 What is the expectation with Valardi as a top pick? Is he a true top 2 center. I seem to recall either Button or Mackenzie saying he may be a better fit as a winger at the next level. Anyone here have a solid opinion on that? If he's going to end up on the wing in the NHL then JB has to take a pass even if we are picking a 5 oa. Glass or Mittlestat makes more sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rush17 Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 2 hours ago, Sugar baby watermelon said: What I am afraid of is we fall to 5th and Patrick/Hischier/Vilardi/Middlestadt get selected and we are at 5th. Whom does Benning take? Does he go with Liljegren, whose stock has been falling or go with Necas/Glass. I been so hyped up on either Middlestadt/Vilardi and with last year's draft disappointment at the time picking of Juolevi and not Tkachuk it would be tough if this was the scenario. Although I would rather have Necas/Glass if this was the case. thoughts on Juolevi now? would u still take Tkachuk over him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 There's Patrick and Hischier, then everybody else. I'm not sure it matters much who we'd take 3-5. Most likely what TL and JB determine during the interviews and by positional needs. I think they're probably looking for a #2C, so could be Vilardi, Mittelstadt or maybe Glass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 (edited) 3 hours ago, NUCKER67 said: I'm a bit of a skeptic when they tell us the drafting order after the fact, but don't actually show us the order at the time the balls are dropped. It's all secret stuff for some reason. Just saying, Bettman would sure love to see his new baby get 1st overall. It's for dramatic effect re the unveiling. The lottery is filmed and supervised by Ernst & Young. There are representatives of each lottery team present too. They each get a copy of the list with the combinations allocated to each team so when the numbers are drawn they can match it to that list and verify which team won. Edited April 24, 2017 by mll 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Off_The_Schneid! Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 37 minutes ago, two drink minimum said: What is the expectation with Valardi as a top pick? Is he a true top 2 center. I seem to recall either Button or Mackenzie saying he may be a better fit as a winger at the next level. Anyone here have a solid opinion on that? If he's going to end up on the wing in the NHL then JB has to take a pass even if we are picking a 5 oa. Glass or Mittlestat makes more sense 8 minutes ago, NUCKER67 said: There's Patrick and Hischier, then everybody else. I'm not sure it matters much who we'd take 3-5. Most likely what TL and JB determine during the interviews and by positional needs. I think they're probably looking for a #2C, so could be Vilardi, Mittelstadt or maybe Glass. I'm getting a little tired of everyone calling Vilardi a Center he didn't even play centre this season when it mattered in junior Benning specifically said he was looking for a top line playmaking centre patrick hischier mittlestadt glass/Suzuki/necas no vilardi 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 30 minutes ago, Off_The_Schneid! said: I'm getting a little tired of everyone calling Vilardi a Center he didn't even play centre this season when it mattered in junior Benning specifically said he was looking for a top line playmaking centre patrick hischier mittlestadt glass/Suzuki/necas no vilardi I think because most sites have him listed as a C. In fact, every site I've checked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Off_The_Schneid! Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 18 minutes ago, NUCKER67 said: I think because most sites have him listed as a C. In fact, every site I've checked. He didn't play center for the second half of the season or playoffs it's like saying biega is a forward Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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