Bure_Pavel Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 1 hour ago, J.R. said: If I was a betting man, I'd say Glass and Necas are the Canucks key C targets short of this happening: If Vilardi is available at 5 and benning drafts Necas instead, he should run outta town with pitch forks. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beastmode33 Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 1 minute ago, Bure_Pavel said: If Vilardi is available at 5 and benning drafts Necas instead, he should run outta town with pitch forks. Wouldn't the pitch forks slow him down? Why does he need them in the first place? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 7 minutes ago, Bure_Pavel said: If Vilardi is available at 5 and benning drafts Necas instead, he should run outta town with pitch forks. Nope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herberts Vasiljevs Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 18 minutes ago, Bure_Pavel said: If Vilardi is available at 5 and benning drafts Necas instead, he should run outta town with pitch forks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funkyfresh Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 26 minutes ago, baumerman77 said: Necas seems really overrated to me. I think he's in that third tier (outside of the top 12). Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bure_Pavel Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 9 minutes ago, J.R. said: Nope. Ya huh, It wont likely matter anyways dont see Vilardi making it past 4. Potentially top sxiers including, Dahlin, Goldobin, Baertchi, and Necas is way too soft for the Western Conference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 2 minutes ago, Bure_Pavel said: Ya huh, It wont likely matter anyways dont see Vilardi making it past 4. Potentially top sxiers including, Dahlin, Goldobin, Baertchi, and Necas is way too soft for the Western Conference. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Herberts Vasiljevs Posted May 3, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted May 3, 2017 27 minutes ago, Bure_Pavel said: Ya huh, It wont likely matter anyways dont see Vilardi making it past 4. Potentially top sxiers including, Dahlin, Goldobin, Baertchi, and Necas is way too soft for the Western Conference. Yeah, "soft." Goldobin I'll give you a pass on, but just because they're not 200 lbs. + and don't throw their bodies around and fight like Milan Lucic doesn't make them soft. Guys in our system like Boeser, Dahlen, Baertschi, Granlund, and who knows, maybe someday Necas are strong on the puck, win battles on the boards, go to the hard areas, and play an astute defensive game. That is anything but "soft." My favourite example of a guy like this is Viktor Arvidsson (who is only 5'9 for crying out loud), and that little viking was born for playoff hockey. He's the biggest reason why I'm cheering for the Preds to win it all (aside from the Sens of course). 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 4 minutes ago, Herberts Vasiljevs said: Yeah, "soft." Goldobin I'll give you a pass on, but just because they're not 200 lbs. + and don't throw their bodies around and fight like Milan Lucic doesn't make them soft. Guys in our system like Boeser, Dahlen, Baertschi, Granlund, and who knows, maybe someday Necas are strong on the puck, win battles on the boards, go to the hard areas, and play an astute defensive game. That is anything but "soft." My favourite example of a guy like this is Viktor Arvidsson (who is only 5'9 for crying out loud), and that little viking was born for playoff hockey. He's the biggest reason why I'm cheering for the Preds to win it all (aside from the Sens of course). Out of +'s Add in neither of Boeser or Horvat being small or wilting flowers, Virtanen likely in the middle 6 somewhere eventually and Kane being UFA just as we clear $14m in salary.... Dahlen, Glass/Necas, Boeser Kane, Horvat, Goldobin Granlund, Gaudette, Virtanen Looks just fine as a potential, future top 9, 3+ years from now IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baumerman77 Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, funkyfresh said: Why? I'm always skeptical when someone shoots up the rankings because of how they do in a tournament (small sample size). Apart from that I don't think his performance in the Extraliga was that impressive - very similar to Spacek a couple years back who I also believe was ranked around 5 for international skaters in the 2015 draft. Not many players have gone on to success in the NHL after playing their draft year in Extraliga. Hertl was one of them who has had NHL success but his numbers were much better than Necas and his highlight reel was amazing. I've seen some of Necas highlight videos (in addition to international play) and nothing has really wowed me. He also played a lot with Martin Erat who is one of the best players in the league. I'm sure he has a high ceiling and could very well end up being a great pick (as with a lot of guys in the top 12) but I believe there are much better prospects at 5 and less risky picks with similar upside in the top 10. Edited May 4, 2017 by baumerman77 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theminister Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 2 minutes ago, baumerman77 said: I'm always skeptical when someone shoots up the rankings because of how they do in a tournament (small sample size). Apart from that I don't think his performance in the Extraliga was that impressive - very similar to Spacek a couple years back who I also believe was ranked around 5 for international skaters in the 2015 draft. Not many players have gone on to NHL success from Extraliga in their draft year. Hertl was one of them who has had NHL success but his numbers were much better than Necas and his highlight reel was amazing. I've seen some of Necas highlight videos (in addition to international play) and nothing has really wowed me. He also played a lot with Martin Erat who is one of the best players in the league. I'm sure he has a high ceiling and could very well end up being a great pick (as with a lot of guys in the top 12) but I believe there are much better prospects at 5 and less risky picks with similar upside in the top 10. Uhhhhh... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baumerman77 Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 1 minute ago, theminister said: Uhhhhh... Haha yea that doesn't make sense. I corrected it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoneypuckOverlord Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 3 hours ago, Bure_Pavel said: If Vilardi is available at 5 and benning drafts Necas instead, he should run outta town with pitch forks. not a chance. Necas is an awesome pick at 5. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camel Toe Drag Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 Everybody hopping on the Necas train, love it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaudette Celly Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 2 hours ago, Herberts Vasiljevs said: Yeah, "soft." Goldobin I'll give you a pass on, but just because they're not 200 lbs. + and don't throw their bodies around and fight like Milan Lucic doesn't make them soft. Guys in our system like Boeser, Dahlen, Baertschi, Granlund, and who knows, maybe someday Necas are strong on the puck, win battles on the boards, go to the hard areas, and play an astute defensive game. That is anything but "soft." My favourite example of a guy like this is Viktor Arvidsson (who is only 5'9 for crying out loud), and that little viking was born for playoff hockey. He's the biggest reason why I'm cheering for the Preds to win it all (aside from the Sens of course). Jake Guentzel just scored his 8th of the playoffs. 5'11 180lbs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 3 hours ago, Herberts Vasiljevs said: Yeah, "soft." Goldobin I'll give you a pass on, but just because they're not 200 lbs. + and don't throw their bodies around and fight like Milan Lucic doesn't make them soft. Guys in our system like Boeser, Dahlen, Baertschi, Granlund, and who knows, maybe someday Necas are strong on the puck, win battles on the boards, go to the hard areas, and play an astute defensive game. That is anything but "soft." My favourite example of a guy like this is Viktor Arvidsson (who is only 5'9 for crying out loud), and that little viking was born for playoff hockey. He's the biggest reason why I'm cheering for the Preds to win it all (aside from the Sens of course). Forgot to add, I'm hoping for an OTT / NSH final. *Thumbs up* 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ice orca Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 2 hours ago, baumerman77 said: I'm always skeptical when someone shoots up the rankings because of how they do in a tournament (small sample size). Apart from that I don't think his performance in the Extraliga was that impressive - very similar to Spacek a couple years back who I also believe was ranked around 5 for international skaters in the 2015 draft. Not many players have gone on to success in the NHL after playing their draft year in Extraliga. Hertl was one of them who has had NHL success but his numbers were much better than Necas and his highlight reel was amazing. I've seen some of Necas highlight videos (in addition to international play) and nothing has really wowed me. He also played a lot with Martin Erat who is one of the best players in the league. I'm sure he has a high ceiling and could very well end up being a great pick (as with a lot of guys in the top 12) but I believe there are much better prospects at 5 and less risky picks with similar upside in the top 10. Do you like Horvat? he was a riser in his draft year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baumerman77 Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 2 minutes ago, ice orca said: Do you like Horvat? he was a riser in his draft year. Yes I like Horvat. Are you trying to make an equivalency between him and Necas? If so can you explain your reasoning a bit more? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rush17 Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 3 hours ago, J.R. said: Out of +'s Add in neither of Boeser or Horvat being small or wilting flowers, Virtanen likely in the middle 6 somewhere eventually and Kane being UFA just as we clear $14m in salary.... Dahlen, Glass/Necas, Boeser Kane, Horvat, Goldobin Granlund, Gaudette, Virtanen Looks just fine as a potential, future top 9, 3+ years from now IMO. is Kane a free agent this off season or next? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bingo Chili Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 my rankings so far: 1 hischier 2 patrick 3 mittelstadt - very skilled offensively. If he can improve his defense, could be a home run pick. 4 vilardi - i see him as a winger more than a centre. He'll have success like tkachuk. 5 necas- 2 way centre with great speed. If he can improve his shot accuracy, he can be a legit 1st liner in the nhl. HM: glass, heiskanen, makar, liljegren(i believe he can have a bounce back year when 100% healthy), pettersson(could be the steal of this draft when he bulks up and if he's able to translate his skills to the nhl). Benning cant really mess this up. I dont think he'll be drafting rasmussen with virtanen pick not working out so far. If benning can trade tanev for a pick between #7-12, he can draft 2 of these guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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