Vinny in Vancouver Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 I know a similar proposal has been proposed in the past, but that was before the lottery. In any event, thoughts on the following? To Vancouver: Sam Reinhart + Buffalo's first rounder (8th overall) To Buffalo: Chris Tanev + Vancouver's first rounder (5th overall) Why Vancouver does this: Vancouver gets its first line center who happens to be a local boy (ok, so some of you guys are still smarting from Virtanen, but hey, how about that Stecher kid!) With the 8th overall, there's a good chance one of the following potential 1st-pairing D-men are available: Heiskanen, Makar, Liljegren, and since Vancouver's not about to get to the playoffs any time soon, we might as well develop our Tanev replacement. Why Buffalo does this: I believe they want to win soon as they don't want to waste time on some talented and pricey players they have acquired (Ryan O'Reilly, Kane, Lehner). Chris Tanev immediately makes their D legit now as he moves to their top pairing. Currently, Eichel and ROR already occupy the center position for the top 2 lines so Sam's being under-utilized. If they are concerned with the loss of Reinhart, with the 5th overall, they can always gamble on a future C (Glass, Vilardi, Mittelstadt, Rasmussen). They can also use that pick to bolster their D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makaramel MacKhiato Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 I like it actually. We would probably have to add a 3rd round pick, but not bad at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morrissex95 Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 Or they could just move ROR to LW and Reinhart slots in as their 2C. OR they trade Reinhart for a winger, like Drouin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRAZY_4_NAZZY Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 I like the idea of the trade, but Buffalo says no. They really want a LHD to play with Ristolainen. I think it would have to take Ben Hutton to get that deal done not Tanev. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apollo Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 Well done. Pull the trigger JIMBO! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaudette Celly Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 Tanev >= Reinhart. They add something like a 2nd, Kane, swap of 1st for 2nd in 2018, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-AJ- Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 This idea for a trade is good though I'm not sure if it's doable or not. A lot of parts to assess. I am very much in favour of moving down a few spots to get some extra stuff since I don't see a huge difference between #5 and say #7 or #8 in comparison to most draft years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny in Vancouver Posted May 12, 2017 Author Share Posted May 12, 2017 29 minutes ago, Hutton Wink said: Tanev >= Reinhart. They add something like a 2nd, Kane, swap of 1st for 2nd in 2018, etc. I hear you, HW, and I would hate to lose Tanev too, but it's a matter of timing for both teams: when does Vancouver think they can legitimately compete for the Cup and when does Buffalo think they can? I think Buffalo's thinking 'now' whereas Vancouver's thinking much later (as Aquilini said, focus on youth). Hence, I had to factor in Tanev's and Reinhart's ages. If it's a matter of adding some smaller pieces on either side, then I would hope that's not a deal-breaker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny in Vancouver Posted May 12, 2017 Author Share Posted May 12, 2017 49 minutes ago, morrissex95 said: Or they could just move ROR to LW and Reinhart slots in as their 2C. OR they trade Reinhart for a winger, like Drouin. From what I know, ROR, Reinhart and Eichel all prefer to play C. To CDC's resident Buffalo Sabre fan, please correct me if I am wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jono2009 Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 I could live with this trade. Good job! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Vintage Canuck- Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 Pretty fair trade value-wise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whale Tail Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 I think instead of the 3rd they would probably want Baer as well. If they are getting to the 'win' now phase they would want someone to replace some of Reinharts points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
48MPHSlapShot Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 I'd be game for that. 9 minutes ago, Whale Tail said: I think instead of the 3rd they would probably want Baer as well. If they are getting to the 'win' now phase they would want someone to replace some of Reinharts points. Ehh...That's getting a little rich for my blood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whale Tail Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 6 minutes ago, 48MPHSlapShot said: I'd be game for that. Ehh...That's getting a little rich for my blood. That just means that we are getting close to a realistic trade than maybe we do Baer and they thrown in a 3rd than? 5th+ Tanev + Baer 8th + Reinhart + 3rd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanGnome Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 BUF Hutton Baertschi 5th OA VAN Sam Reinheart 8th OA 2nd round pick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Vintage Canuck- Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 Just now, VanGnome said: BUF Hutton Baertschi 5th OA VAN Sam Reinheart 8th OA 2nd round pick I kind of want to see how Baertschi would do under Green. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Jay 22 Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 Props to you for a well thought out deal. I'm conflicted because I think Buffalo would prefer a LD, but they could also really use a DFD like Tanev. At the very least, it would certainly get Buffalo thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForsbergTheGreat Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 4 minutes ago, VanGnome said: BUF Hutton Baertschi 5th OA VAN Sam Reinheart 8th OA 2nd round pick Pre- tryamkin leaving maybe but now, no thanks. After expansion draft where we lose Sbisa, we'd have no depth on the left side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanGnome Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 1 minute ago, Blue Jay 22 said: Props to you for a well thought out deal. I'm conflicted because I think Buffalo would prefer a LD, but they could also really use a DFD like Tanev. At the very least, it would certainly get Buffalo thinking. Hmm BUF Hutton Tanev VAN 8th OA Reinhart Vancouver gives up two big pieces on D in order to replenish the future and get their #1 C Vancouver keeps its 5th OA and adds 8th OA drafting Liljegren/Makar and Owen Tippett Liljegren could step right into the NHL Edler - Stecher Juolevi - Gudbranson Sbisa - Liljegren (assuming they make a deal with LV to not take Sbisa, so good bye Gaunce) Then forwards: Eriksson - Reinhart - Boeser Baertschi - Horvat - Virtanen (I believe he's still T6) Sedin - Sedin - Granlund Cramarossa - Sutter - Dorsett Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChampStatus Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 I like the trade but what makes you think Sam the Man is on the market? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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