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On 18/10/2017 at 4:56 AM, Silky mitts said:

Ahh another goalie controversy just what this team needs

This was coming the moment we signed Nilsson.  It has just as much to do with Markstroms mediocre stats as it has to do with Nilssons very respectable stats last year in an equally poor albiet better defensive team in Buffalo ( they have some elite two way forwards and a little better defense, plus their power play was first in the league which can help win games).


I never understood Markstroms contract, we paid him before he earned it IMO, when there are always other guys with more upside available ( Darling, Talbot etc.),  but maybe there is too much competition and we'd have to overpay for them to choose us so I guess that has something to do with it.  I hope Nilsson takes over, I haven't seen enough from Markstrom.  Maybe it's part of the tank?  A three year anchor in net to get two more top five picks?  


Ive watched a lot of hockey, Markstrom has been his best this year despite some mishaps ( and we have to understand that we don't have the offence or the defense to make it easy for whoever starts), we can hope he suddenly pulls a Tim Thomas and dominates later on, but I don't see it.  I also caution fans to temper their expectations on Demko,  Markstrom was considered the best goalie not in the NHL at one point, and for years was at or near the top in his position and top five overall in the Future Watch ( Demko was 62 last year, in other words the 62 best prospect in the world where as Markstrom at the same time was in the top five year after year)....


Not that it means it will play out that way, there are some misses for sure ranking prospects both ways.  If Demko works out great, if not Benning needs to continue to pad his bet by draft more guys, which thankfully he finally did last draft.  Elite goaltending can turn a club around faster than anyone but guys like McDavid and Mathews which  only come along once a decade or  so.    


I hope one of the guys we have now surprises but am not holding my breath.  We were spoiled rotten with Luongo, only McLean also had that "it" factor with Vezina consideration.   Cloutier was painfully mediocre when an elite goalie would have put us over the top....and the rest have been even worse ( not including Schneider).


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On 10/18/2017 at 0:40 AM, kurtzfan said:

I see enough of Markstrom. TG should already let Nilsson play for the last home game.

I highly doubt Markstrom will have a shout out in his career. He keeps letting him the soft goals one after another.


Both Nilsson and Markstorm are trying to get the starting goalie position.

I think Nilsson will be able to take the position in the end.


What do you guys think?

Yeah but...when he was backing up Luongo, everyone was saying he should be the starter!


Myself, I'm going to be patient and wait for Demko.

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I have been watching Markstorm closely whenever he is net. He allows too may soft goals. Sometimes I really wonder he will get a SO by the end of this season. 

 Nilsson already got his one when he played the first game as a Canucks. 




DETROIT, Mich. — Not all goals are fun.

Take the empty-net variety. These are barely enjoyable to the teams that score them, even when they earn a player a hat trick.

Then there are the ones which have been happening to Vancouver. Bad ones. Improbable goals from impossible angles, sliding through, curling around and rolling under Canucks goalies.

We’ve seen soft goals before in Vancouver. But not like this.

From the moment the Canucks traded for Roberto Luongo, thus began a golden era in the Canucks’ net. It lasted for a glorious decade of saves, too, during which Vancouver was fifth in the NHL in goals-against.


The Canucks always had two things they could count on — a solid No. 1 and a goalie coach in Rollie Melanson, who was incredibly efficient and successful in preparing the backups.

Right now, they don’t have either. The hope is at least one of those things will change.

Working against the Canucks is that neither of their Swedish evergreens, Jacob Markstrom and Anders Nilsson, have been a featured backstop.

At least, not for long.

It’s not an easy transition, from a 1B-type to a No. 1, and few goalies make it look like one. Most have setbacks as they navigate the path.

Both Markstrom and Nilsson turn 28 years old this season, and history suggests by that age you are what you are in the NHL, and yes, that applies to goalies, too.

But there are exceptions, and the Canucks’ fortunes depend on one or both developing into outliers.

Believe it or not, there are still reasons to be optimistic about the goaltending. For one, they gave up 2.98 goals a game last year, and most thought Vancouver’s goaltending was a strength. This season, the Canucks have been giving up three goals a game — and that’s with several eye-popping softies.

Really, in his two games, Nilsson has looked sharp. The years he’s spent working on controlling that massive frame with subtle movements have seemingly paid off.  His .918 save percentage is encouraging, especially when you consider one of his games was a collective team derailment in Boston.

Then there’s Markstrom. He was furious with himself during Friday’s first intermission in Buffalo after surrendering a goal which was as soft as a baby powder cupcake. It was the worst possible bad goal too, one that came against the flow of play.

Jacked with adrenalin that can churn when you let someone, or your entire team, down, Markstrom refocused and made 17 consecutive saves, and the Canucks won 4-2. He showed when he’s in the right frame of mind, he can be good. But getting him there, especially early games, is the next challenge.

Better news than his in-game bounce back is how Markstrom handled himself when it was all over.

He was accountable and funny. He was humble and honest. And in Vancouver, this goes a long way.

Yes, it was made easier because the Canucks won, but one of the big questions about Markstrom coming into this season was how would he deal with the market.

In the seasons leading up to this one, there were legitimate concerns about whether he could be a No. 1.

The big dog in net has to cope with a lot of public pressure and scrutiny. He has to answer for bad goals and late-game collapses. Sometimes, more often than people realize, the goalie is expected to cover for mistakes made by teammates.

It’s not easy, but when you’re the starter, it’s expected. Luongo has often mentioned he wished he handled this part of the job better in his early years.

It took him quite a while to understand how to defuse the pressure. On Friday, Markstrom, for the first time I’ve seen, looked like he had it figured out. He took total ownership of the second goal, saying “it was entirely my fault.”

That’s not all true, because Jack Eichel skated through Ben Hutton like he was skating through a hair net.

Markstrom wasn’t bothered when he was asked four different times about how that Eichel goal went in. On the fourth, with a smile, he said:

“Under my pad. I lifted it up for him so he would get it.”

Oh, that’s good.

And then Markstrom said something we can all relate with: “I want to play hockey games, too.”

He was talking about his place on the team, and how its unsecured.

If he doesn’t play well, he doesn’t play. In that moment, Markstrom was the scrappy underdog who seemed to appreciate the reality he’s not that many mistakes away from not playing for a while.

You could feel the impact of the current internal competition he’s in enveloping him.

And for the first time in a while, you could sense that this was a guy fans could still rally around, and believe in.

It’s a long year, big things could still happen for him.


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