stawns Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 On 6/21/2020 at 11:03 AM, Warhippy said: Interesting read. https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/alberta-fair-deal-panel-jason-kenney-federal-government-1.5618258?fbclid=IwAR1lg-VUZH_lvw2RP716wRydyy9xtev_-sw-zH839g8gy7ueH5UPzNCUGwQ jesus Albertans are ignorant and gullible 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, stawns said: jesus Albertans are ignorant and gullible You want a real eye opener, check out bill 29 https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/new-bill-removes-limits-on-donations-to-trustee-municipal-candidates-in-alberta-1.5625799 Imagine whining that the NDP took money out of politics to an extent, then blamed the NDP for more while you wrote a bill that allowed private and corporate donors to donate up to $500k outside of electoral periods. This is how we buy the candidates Oh or Bill 1 https://edmontonjournal.com/news/politics/aupe-bill-1-alberta-charter Because ensuring nobody that protests see's the light of day or ensures they go bankrupt for standing up for themselves 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 27 minutes ago, Warhippy said: You want a real eye opener, check out bill 29 https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/new-bill-removes-limits-on-donations-to-trustee-municipal-candidates-in-alberta-1.5625799 Imagine whining that the NDP took money out of politics to an extent, then blamed the NDP for more while you wrote a bill that allowed private and corporate donors to donate up to $500k outside of electoral periods. This is how we buy the candidates Oh or Bill 1 https://edmontonjournal.com/news/politics/aupe-bill-1-alberta-charter Because ensuring nobody that protests see's the light of day or ensures they go bankrupt for standing up for themselves The ultimate gaslighting is kenney whining about the equalization formula that he actually helped draft and pass during the Harper era. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 3 minutes ago, stawns said: The ultimate gaslighting is kenney whining about the equalization formula that he actually helped draft and pass during the Harper era. Every time he is called out on that, he claims he was needed to save the province from massive NDP overspending. But then shuts down the conversation when it is pointed out he's cut services to the bone and is still spending more than the NDP, but has also pork barrelled more than any conservative government in Alberta history 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 6 minutes ago, Warhippy said: Every time he is called out on that, he claims he was needed to save the province from massive NDP overspending. But then shuts down the conversation when it is pointed out he's cut services to the bone and is still spending more than the NDP, but has also pork barrelled more than any conservative government in Alberta history and they just keep lapping it up 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 4 hours ago, stawns said: and they just keep lapping it up OH it gets better, that guy...makes $200k a year and Kenney is excusing it claiming he doesn't set policy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toews Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Warhippy said: OH it gets better, that guy...makes $200k a year and Kenney is excusing it claiming he doesn't set policy Quote The British treated Natives in this country more benevolently than they did any other indigenous peoples within their empire. Canada inherited that legacy and maintained it, even as our neighbours south of the border continued to lynch blacks and slaughter Indians. The bogus genocide story of the Canadian Aboriginal residential schools system is an insult to all of us, Native and non-Native, dead or alive, who are justifiably proud of the peaceful, tolerant, pluralistic history and values of our great country. We should fight like hell to defend it from those who would corrupt it. https://c2cjournal.ca/2013/10/the-genocide-that-failed/ To be fair to Kenney it is Alberta, I am sure you can find lots of douchebags but how many can write in proper sentence structure while expressing pride for our "peaceful, tolerant, pluralistic history and values". How many people would be proud of physical abuse, sexual abuse, trauma, neglect, malnutrition etc? Not too many, but according to Paul at least we weren't lynching and slaughtering people like the Americans. Edited June 25, 2020 by Toews 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 (edited) You know what's been shown to never work? Cutting corporate taxes You know what Alberta's master plan today is...cutting corporate and business taxes for mid to large sized businesses. Edited June 29, 2020 by Warhippy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 18 hours ago, Warhippy said: You know what's been shown to never work? Cutting corporate taxes You know what Alberta's master plan today is...cutting corporate and business taxes for mid to large sized businesses. but........trickle down economics. Corporations like to voluntarily share don't they? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedestroyerofworlds Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 12 minutes ago, stawns said: but........trickle down economics. Corporations like to voluntarily share don't they? And you know who would spend money in their communities if they had an extra percentage of their income in their pockets? Average Jane and Joe. But they are rarely the ultimate focus of any benefits of Conservative tax cuts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 4 hours ago, stawns said: but........trickle down economics. Corporations like to voluntarily share don't they? 4 hours ago, thedestroyerofworlds said: And you know who would spend money in their communities if they had an extra percentage of their income in their pockets? Average Jane and Joe. But they are rarely the ultimate focus of any benefits of Conservative tax cuts. Between yesterday's announcement and the "fair deal" scam I'm curious as to why Strome and ftg aren't here telling us how it's a good thing and totally someone else's fault Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 Nothing says smart like fighting with your doctor's during a global pandemic https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/shandro-directs-doctors-regulatory-college-to-stop-doctors-from-leaving-practices-en-masse-1.5650940?fbclid=IwAR3ZXjB-cLB2_4GVIEgFuoP0eSjbhCcYq7XkPZpo9Urxtn5oThPFtChS59I 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 From the link Alberta Health Minister Tyler Shandro has directed the College of Physicians and Surgeons of Alberta to change its standards of practice for physicians by July 20 in an attempt to stop the province's doctors from leaving their practices en masse due to an ongoing dispute over pay. "The standards do not go far enough to protect patients, particularly in rural or smaller communities," Shandro said in a bluntly worded June 18 letter, released at a CPSA meeting Wednesday. "Patients in these communities should not have to face an entire group of physicians withdrawing services." In the letter, Shandro tells the CPSA to change the standards of practice to "prohibit an entire group of physicians from withdrawing at the same time. This could be identified as 'job action' rather than a closure of a medical practice." Doctors should be required to give three months' notice before leaving a practice, the letter states. UPDATED Alberta health minister responds to doctors' survey with threat to reveal billings New health omnibus bill clears way for privatization, doctors' contracts Shandro directs the CPSA to ensure doctors "take steps to mitigate the impact of withdrawal of services, including making all reasonable efforts to ensure that other physicians are available to address patient needs." The college must "require physicians to provide effective alternative resources and/or arrangements for patients if they choose to withdraw services," the letter says. If the alternative arrangements are insufficient and create undue risk of harm to patients, "the college can require that some physicians involved in the withdrawal of services must continue to provide services until effective alternative resources and/or arrangements have been created," Shandro's letter says. Escalation in dispute with AMA The letter marks a dramatic escalation in the months-long dispute over pay between the Alberta Medical Association, which represents the province's doctors, and Shandro, who is imposing what the AMA says are significant funding cuts, especially to doctors in rural areas. In February, Shandro unilaterally ended the Alberta government's master agreement with the AMA and imposed a new funding framework. The AMA filed a lawsuit against the government in April, alleging Shandro's actions breached their charter rights. The province filed a statement of defence this week denying doctors' charter rights had been breached and accusing the doctors of "job action" for either withdrawing, or threatening to withdraw, their services. Last week, the AMA released a survey that suggested 42 per cent of the 1,740 doctors who responded are planning to leave the province. Another 87 per cent said they would alter their practices in response to the pay changes. Nearly half said they would change or withdraw services they provide to hospitals and other AHS facilities. Doctors in at least 10 communities, including Sundre, Pincher Creek and Lac La Biche, have already either withdrawn services or indicated they plan to leave. In 1 month this Alberta town's hospital could have no doctors, mayor fears Pincher Creek mayor worries hospital service will be interrupted as deadline looms to replace doctors Doctors in at least 44 rural Alberta communities to reduce services, according to survey Shandro responded to the AMA survey by threatening to publicly release the billings of individual physicians. In the June 18 letter, Shandro tells the CPSA he expects the college to "fulfill its mandate to protect the public and for its standards of practice to facilitate this protection." Shandro informs the college that he will use his authority under the Health Professions Act to direct the CPSA to amend its "Closing or Leaving a Medical Practice and Job Action standards to better protect patients' needs and to align with other jurisdictions." He then tells the CPSA it has until July 20 to provide him with "'input' as to the substance and form of my recommendations." At a special meeting of the CPSA on Wednesday however, the college decided to ask Shandro for an extension of at least 30 days. Under the Health Professions Act, the college is required to consult with the ministry and doctors before it changes practice standards. College registrar Dr. Scott McLeod said there was no evidence that the current practice standards are putting the safety of patients at risk but he said it is always helpful to review the standards. McLeod said the college was recommending a much broader consultation to ensure not only doctors, but also members of the public, have input. In response to a question, McLeod explained that Shandro has the authority to impose standards on doctors if he is not happy with the standards the college produces. Several doctors expressed concern about the effect the changes directed by Shandro would have on their ability to recruit other doctors or to sell their practices. One doctor said he couldn't think of another profession where you would be forced, or indentured, to stay in your job if you have a problem with your employer. "I would have great concern about the reach of the minister," the doctor said. If you have information for this story or information for another story please contact us in confidence at cbcinvestigates@cbc.ca @charlesrusnell" "One doctor said he couldn't think of another profession where you would be forced, or indentured, to stay in your job if you have a problem with your employer." Outside of the military I can't think of one either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUPERTKBD Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 I've been to Pincher Creek and Lac La Biche.... If you want someone to stay there, you're going to have to pay them..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 23 minutes ago, RUPERTKBD said: I've been to Pincher Creek and Lac La Biche.... If you want someone to stay there, you're going to have to pay them..... When you're literally all but openly destroying public healthcare like Shandro and Kenny are the likelihood of being paid to be a rural physician is all but nil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 (edited) Well that's embarrassing...it only cost one provinces taxpayers...how much again? Like $7.5 billion total in guaranteed investments and loans. All for the US to shut it down. Again. Imagine being the guy in charge when trudeau gets a pipeline built, possibly cheaper than you could. https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/suncor-kxl-tmx-1.5660366?fbclid=IwAR00aCix-ysTdll56MZX4WS-J76xP39at4G0Z4MNMq1fP1C8hfY7SYcy6Dw The chief executive of one of the country's largest energy companies has more faith in the federal government's Trans Mountain expansion project being completed, compared with the Keystone XL pipeline, which has Alberta government backing. That's based on comments by Suncor Energy's Mark Little on Thursday morning during a conference call with the investment community about the plethora of pipeline developments recently, including regulatory and court decisions. Little was encouraged about the Trans Mountain expansion project, which recently cleared a major court hurdle when the Supreme Court dismissed an appeal by First Nations in B.C. Construction in Alberta and British Columbia continues on the pipeline, which will transport oil from Edmonton to the Vancouver area. The chief executive of one of the country's largest energy companies has more faith in the federal government's Trans Mountain expansion project being completed, compared with the Keystone XL pipeline, which has Alberta government backing. That's based on comments by Suncor Energy's Mark Little on Thursday morning during a conference call with the investment community about the plethora of pipeline developments recently, including regulatory and court decisions. Little was encouraged about the Trans Mountain expansion project, which recently cleared a major court hurdle when the Supreme Court dismissed an appeal by First Nations in B.C. Construction in Alberta and British Columbia continues on the pipeline, which will transport oil from Edmonton to the Vancouver area. Edited July 27, 2020 by Warhippy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 Parents. Health experts. teachers All worried and panicked over the current model to reopen schools in Alberta. The WEXIT movement...all for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted August 3, 2020 Author Share Posted August 3, 2020 2 hours ago, Warhippy said: Parents. Health experts. teachers All worried and panicked over the current model to reopen schools in Alberta. The WEXIT movement...all for it. takes a certain "something" to be a hard core wexiteer. Where the heck is Strome btw? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUPERTKBD Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 4 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said: takes a certain "something" to be a hard core wexiteer. Where the heck is Strome btw? Got hit with the banhammer..... Finally..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted August 3, 2020 Author Share Posted August 3, 2020 Just now, RUPERTKBD said: Got hit with the banhammer..... Finally..... really I wonder what he finally said to get it done? must have been a personal thing, the mods allow an awful lot of leeway over here in off-topic threads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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