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13 minutes ago, Ryan Strome said:

The Syrian refugee who murdered the young girl in BC was invited in and the Syrian refugee who sexually assaulted 5 minors in Edmonton was invited in. Just look at all the criminal organizations coming from China moving into your Province invited in again. But you are correct both those parties are pretty corrupt. I did vote for an alternate party just not the Socialist like you.

Are you condemning all Syrian as evil from the actions from a few?

 

Cuz I read stories about the Bacon brothers, Italian monsters, triads, etc.

 

We are all f***ed.

 

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39 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said:

it might do some good.

 

Very sound basis to spend between 400-600 million. 
 

All. while ignoring all statistics that suggest it will have ZERO impact as Canada does not have an semi auto rifle issue  

 

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Now you - whats your legal basis to own one? 

Why does he need a legal basis to own one? You and the liberals are the ones trying to remove it, there for the burden of evidence is on you to prove why he shouldn’t be able to.

 

That’s law 101. Some attorney.... more like a property lawyer. 

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15 hours ago, Ryan Strome said:

Actually the conversation was outlawing guns based on what happens in a different country. Other countries have muslims once a week killing people. Should we get them out because they're major problems in many countries?

I bet 1/4 of the population has guns so by your logic the percentage of gun deaths would be very small. Why outlaw an ar-15 in Canada? For what reason should we do that?

I am going to use your logic.  Ok ready for this.  because it really will sound as stupid as you read it.  This is your argument

 

Canada has incidents of rape happening every day.  Should we cut the penis off of every man in Canada because they're a major problem with rape?? I bet 50% of the population has a penis so by your logic the percentage of rape should be very small.  Why outlaw a penis?  What reason should we...blah blah blah

 

You're literally saying stop an entire sect of people, a sizeable portion of the nation from driving vehicles based on their ethnicity or religion because of issues in other nation.  By your own statement, as stupid and overtly bigoted as it is, we should in fact strip the guns from EVERYONE in Canada because people in Canada kill people in canada with guns.  Not in other countries.  In canada.  Women are raped daily in canada so we should just snip the tip off of every man in canada, because they;'re a problem in canada.

 

Your argument is not only disgusting it's absolutely gods be damned stupid and the fact you double down on it is beyond insane.  You literally successfully made an argument to strip guns because gun violence happens in canada or other countries, because you're trying to claim or state muslims should then be outlawed from driving based on what happens in other nations.

 

Seriously Strome, you should be better than this, if not smarter.  Give your head a shake and your bits a tug man

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Back to the topic and away from the name calling, socialist gun lover blah blah blah

 

Bryan Brulotte has thrown his name in to the ring for potential leadership of the Conservative party.

 

he is actually a very interesting name as he was once one of the most outspoken pure non cabinet members of the CPC prior to MacKay selling the party off.  He has a strong business background and was in fact serving in the military while also working behind the scenes for the CPC.

 

He's a very interesting name to see in the mix and I'd be inclined to seriously listen to him as he's spoken out about the excess of social policies clouding the true issues surrounding the party and the need to get back to truly conservative roots.  Fiscal conservative, social centrist (meaning do what you want just don't let it cost me time or money)

 

I'm very inclined to see where he ends up and if he became leader I'd be even more inclined to lend him my vote if he can purge the party of the social misfits

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5 minutes ago, aGENT said:

I thought Alberta was half out of work, losing jobs and struggling to get by?

Schrodingers alberta

 

All out of work but making more money than you.

 

Coupled with Schrodingers PM

 

Destroying the country but also the cause for rampant growth 

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2 minutes ago, Warhippy said:

Schrodingers alberta

 

All out of work but making more money than you.

 

Coupled with Schrodingers PM

 

Destroying the country but also the cause for rampant growth 

*and bought a pipeline :lol:

 

Matt Groening couldn't write this humorously ironic, cognitive dissonance. 

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33 minutes ago, Warhippy said:

Back to the topic and away from the name calling, socialist gun lover blah blah blah

 

Bryan Brulotte has thrown his name in to the ring for potential leadership of the Conservative party.

 

he is actually a very interesting name as he was once one of the most outspoken pure non cabinet members of the CPC prior to MacKay selling the party off.  He has a strong business background and was in fact serving in the military while also working behind the scenes for the CPC.

 

He's a very interesting name to see in the mix and I'd be inclined to seriously listen to him as he's spoken out about the excess of social policies clouding the true issues surrounding the party and the need to get back to truly conservative roots.  Fiscal conservative, social centrist (meaning do what you want just don't let it cost me time or money)

 

I'm very inclined to see where he ends up and if he became leader I'd be even more inclined to lend him my vote if he can purge the party of the social misfits

when I first saw this I was thinking he was just in it to raise his personal profile and maybe have a little more influence in how the next leader is chosen, but it might be an honest run at it.

 

I really have my doubts the CPC base in AB would go for a guy who would be perceived as a higher risk outsider. My $ is still on the AB/SK base going for MacKay since they bent him over once already. 

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4 hours ago, RUPERTKBD said:

I said AR's are unnecessary. Hunting rifles are fine.

 

Sorry to burst your "bubble"....

So just AR's are unnecessary?

3 hours ago, BPA said:

Maybe to nip it in the bud before it becomes a real problem?  Prevention vs Reaction?

By this logic should we make it illegal for a communist party to run in Canada? Nip it in the bud before it becomes a problem?

1 hour ago, aGENT said:

I thought Alberta was half out of work, losing jobs and struggling to get by?

Those working make the most in the country. Stats can is your friend 

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15 minutes ago, Ryan Strome said:

So just AR's are unnecessary?

 

you keep missing the point. The onus is on you, the guy that wants the gun, to provide a legal reason for you to have one. The government has the power to ban it, it doesn't need to go looking for a legal reason. The Liberals also won  the election on a platform that included removing this type of weapon, so they have the political mandate to try. So the Lib's are on firm ground legally and politically. 

 

there are some good arguments to ban AR15s. And theres a good argument to say well if you ban it, you should be banning many other types of guns too. I think thats what you're really afraid of.

 

Interesting article here on both sides of the argument: https://www.houstonpublicmedia.org/articles/news/in-depth/2019/01/24/319160/whats-the-case-for-and-against-banning-the-ar-15/

 

The physician case is pretty compelling. 

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21 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said:

you keep missing the point. The onus is on you, the guy that wants the gun, to provide a legal reason for you to have one. The government has the power to ban it, it doesn't need to go looking for a legal reason. The Liberals also won  the election on a platform that included removing this type of weapon, so they have the political mandate to try. So the Lib's are on firm ground legally and politically. 

 

there are some good arguments to ban AR15s. And theres a good argument to say well if you ban it, you should be banning many other types of guns too. I think thats what you're really afraid of.

 

Interesting article here on both sides of the argument: https://www.houstonpublicmedia.org/articles/news/in-depth/2019/01/24/319160/whats-the-case-for-and-against-banning-the-ar-15/

 

The physician case is pretty compelling. 

Interesting some of your comrades claimed the BC liberals didn't win the last BC election. More people voted against the liberals but hey do what you want Alberta has protected itself from such a BS buy back. If ever you need the help of a guy who is strapped to the teeth don't come calling me.

 

But in conclusion you or no one else has an actual reason to want to outlaw that gun. Wonder why sks isn't on your radar, one would think a fully automatic ak47 would be an issue..guess you didn't see it on a us tv station. 

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1 minute ago, Ryan Strome said:

Interesting some of your comrades claimed the BC liberals didn't win the last BC election. More people voted against the liberals but hey do what you want Alberta has protected itself such a BS buy back. If ever you need the help of a guy who is strapped to the teeth don't come calling me.

 

But in conclusion you or no one else has an actual reason to want to outlaw that gun. Wonder why sks isn't on your radar, one would think a fully automatic ak47 would be an issue..guess you didn't see on a us tv station. 

Sure I do, I agree with the physician in the article I posted for you, these rifles are capable of far too much damage. They also seem to be popular with the crazies down south. I don't want to wait for our version of Las Vegas to try to make some changes. Thats 2 reasons.

 

And I agree, other weapons should be on the table as well. 

 

I'm not sure why you're personalizing it like that. 

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12 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said:

Sure I do, I agree with the physician in the article I posted for you, these rifles are capable of far too much damage. They also seem to be popular with the crazies down south. I don't want to wait for our version of Las Vegas to try to make some changes. Thats 2 reasons.

 

And I agree, other weapons should be on the table as well. 

 

I'm not sure why you're personalizing it like that. 

Communism has killed tens of millions, should we outlaw it before we wait for our version of China or Soviet Union?

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2 minutes ago, Ryan Strome said:

Communism has killed tens of millions, should we outlaw it before we wait for our version of China or Soviet Union?

Good point. 

 

Air pollution has killed untold people so we should ban all industry.

The ocean has drowned millions, we should ban ships.

 

No wait, people have killed millions of people so we should just ban people. Problem solved.

 

I am so smrt.

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